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Re: With the 39th pick, the Raptors select Alijah Martin! 

Post#201 » by WuTang_OG » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:40 am

I think he will eventually beat out Shead. Better shooter, bigger/stronger, more athletic

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Post#202 » by Boogie! » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:03 am

Jack compared him to Norman Powell. If this is a fair comparison sign me up.
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Post#203 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:22 am

I wanted Toohey, but it's the 2nd round. I'm happy to see another character guy come into the locker room.

The team has a clear identity right now. I don't think Martin is a .5 offense guy, imo. On offense he's more of a Boucher. You know what he's gonna do, so his impact is really going to swing on how well he shoots 3s. On defense he's gonna be really effective picking up full court.
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Post#204 » by ArthurVandelay » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:40 am

This is a culture pick. Even if he doesn't end up being a rotational NBA player, he's going to work like a dog, bust his own and other guys @ss, and bring the contagious work ethic. That only helps improve the team.
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Re: With the 39th pick, the Raptors select Alijah Martin! 

Post#205 » by torsport » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:50 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:Lu Dort-ish?


I heard this comp by R. Barlow.

Anyone who watched Florida in the NCAA tournament would love this guy. Often was the interview and team spokesperson.

Incredibly strong. Built like a football player. Good 3 point shooter 35% on 6 attempts last year, and pretty consistent in that range throughout college (but streaky). A dawg on defense.

I think he's a better leaper than Dort (he can really throw down), but a little smaller. Not sure how their handle compares, but neither are ball handling guards.

Bully defense, outside shooting, bouncy athlete, high-motor, and good leadership. Older, so more mature and can probably contibute in the short term.

I like the pick
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Post#206 » by Steven1562 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:52 am

I like the pick. We are really starting to build some solid depth coming off the bench. I feel like we need to find contributors that aren't the main guys.
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Post#207 » by ArthurVandelay » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:07 pm

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Basketball_Jones wrote:Lu Dort-ish?


I heard this comp by R. Barlow.

Anyone who watched Florida in the NCAA tournament would love this guy. Often was the interview and team spokesperson.

Incredibly strong. Built like a football player. Good 3 point shooter 35% on 6 attempts last year, and pretty consistent in that range throughout college (but streaky). A dawg on defense.

I think he's a better leaper than Dort (he can really throw down), but a little smaller. Not sure how their handle compares, but neither are ball handling guards.

Bully defense, outside shooting, bouncy athlete, high-motor, and good leadership. Older, so more mature and can probably contibute in the short term.

I like the pick


He's built like a football player because he was one in high school. Had offers in D1 too.

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Post#208 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:24 pm

People throw around "undersized" a lot and it's mostly related to height and that's fair, but this dude is not small. He's built like a linebacker. In the NBA, especially on the defensive end, it really isn't about height, it's about strength and physicality. That's why guys like Lowry and VV can be plus defenders, why Jrue can guard Cs and why Draymond is a generational defender. Also why, despite being 6'8, Dick struggles. Martin will be able to defend at the NBA level, if he can hit open shots, he could stick in the league.
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Post#209 » by nestea » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:40 pm

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Post#210 » by nestea » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:42 pm

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Post#211 » by Rodrickle » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:55 pm

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Post#212 » by GIZMO » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:00 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:People throw around "undersized" a lot and it's mostly related to height and that's fair, but this dude is not small. He's built like a linebacker. In the NBA, especially on the defensive end, it really isn't about height, it's about strength and physicality. That's why guys like Lowry and VV can be plus defenders, why Jrue can guard Cs and why Draymond is a generational defender. Also why, despite being 6'8, Dick struggles. Martin will be able to defend at the NBA level, if he can hit open shots, he could stick in the league.

That may be correct, but we currently signed three shorter players to contracts which is a bit much, also Jrue is 6'4.

Shead who is 6'1, Alijah who is 6'1 and 1/2 and Hepburn who is 6'2. We drafted an undersized c in CMB who is 6'6, in the mold of an already undersized Mogbo who you drafted last year which you traded for. Last year was supposed to be a bad draft yet we went all in on last years draft. This year was a deep draft and we stood on our a$$ and did nothing.

It blows my mind that people are excited with what we did. You can't have a team of 6'2 bulldogs! this roster is flawed without major trades

how are we going to compete with the likes of the wemby's of the league. You need size to win in this league.
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Post#213 » by M3tro » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:02 pm

Definitely moves around on the court like Norm
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Post#214 » by WuTang_OG » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:03 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:People throw around "undersized" a lot and it's mostly related to height and that's fair, but this dude is not small. He's built like a linebacker. In the NBA, especially on the defensive end, it really isn't about height, it's about strength and physicality. That's why guys like Lowry and VV can be plus defenders, why Jrue can guard Cs and why Draymond is a generational defender. Also why, despite being 6'8, Dick struggles. Martin will be able to defend at the NBA level, if he can hit open shots, he could stick in the league.

That may be correct, but we currently signed three shorter players to contracts which is a bit much, also Jrue is 6'4.

Shead who is 6'1, Alijah who is 6'1 and 1/2 and Hepburn who is 6'2. We drafted an undersized c in CMB who is 6'6, in the mold of an already undersized Mogbo who you drafted last year which you traded for. Last year was supposed to be a bad draft yet we went all in on last years draft. This year was a deep draft and we stood on our a$$ and did nothing.

It blows my mind that people are excited with what we did. You can't have a team of 6'2 bulldogs! this roster is flawed without major trades

how are we going to compete with the likes of the wemby's of the league. You need size to win in this league.


Lu Dort and Caruso completely destroyed the narrative that you have to have elite size to be effective. Draymond, Rodman too.
These guys play bigger than what they are and play with physicality and go into people. Raps see that with CMB, Alijah.
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Post#215 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:03 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:People throw around "undersized" a lot and it's mostly related to height and that's fair, but this dude is not small. He's built like a linebacker. In the NBA, especially on the defensive end, it really isn't about height, it's about strength and physicality. That's why guys like Lowry and VV can be plus defenders, why Jrue can guard Cs and why Draymond is a generational defender. Also why, despite being 6'8, Dick struggles. Martin will be able to defend at the NBA level, if he can hit open shots, he could stick in the league.

That may be correct, but we currently signed three shorter players to contracts which is a bit much, also Jrue is 6'4.

Shead who is 6'1, Alijah who is 6'1 and 1/2 and Hepburn who is 6'2. We drafted an undersized c in CMB who is 6'6, in the mold of an already undersized Mogbo who you drafted last year which you traded for. Last year was supposed to be a bad draft yet we went all in on last years draft. This year was a deep draft and we stood on our a$$ and did nothing.

It blows my mind that people are excited with what we did. You can't have a team of 6'2 bulldogs! this roster is flawed without major trades

how are we going to compete with the likes of the wemby's of the league. You need size to win in this league.


I disagree with everything you said.
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Post#216 » by TGM » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:05 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:People throw around "undersized" a lot and it's mostly related to height and that's fair, but this dude is not small. He's built like a linebacker. In the NBA, especially on the defensive end, it really isn't about height, it's about strength and physicality. That's why guys like Lowry and VV can be plus defenders, why Jrue can guard Cs and why Draymond is a generational defender. Also why, despite being 6'8, Dick struggles. Martin will be able to defend at the NBA level, if he can hit open shots, he could stick in the league.

That may be correct, but we currently signed three shorter players to contracts which is a bit much, also Jrue is 6'4.

Shead who is 6'1, Alijah who is 6'1 and 1/2 and Hepburn who is 6'2. We drafted an undersized c in CMB who is 6'6, in the mold of an already undersized Mogbo who you drafted last year which you traded for. Last year was supposed to be a bad draft yet we went all in on last years draft. This year was a deep draft and we stood on our a$$ and did nothing.

It blows my mind that people are excited with what we did. You can't have a team of 6'2 bulldogs! this roster is flawed without major trades

how are we going to compete with the likes of the wemby's of the league. You need size to win in this league.


You are generalizing. Last year was a bad draft in the sense that there were not sure-fire talent at the top of the draft like this year. However, last year's second round was arguably stronger than this years cause the NIL program didn't take into effect yet. This year pretty much all the second rounders with the exception of a few slipping from the 1st where all seniors. The underclassmen sticking around cause they can make more than in the NBA as a second rounder. Was smart of Masai to load up the year before.
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Post#217 » by GIZMO » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:07 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:People throw around "undersized" a lot and it's mostly related to height and that's fair, but this dude is not small. He's built like a linebacker. In the NBA, especially on the defensive end, it really isn't about height, it's about strength and physicality. That's why guys like Lowry and VV can be plus defenders, why Jrue can guard Cs and why Draymond is a generational defender. Also why, despite being 6'8, Dick struggles. Martin will be able to defend at the NBA level, if he can hit open shots, he could stick in the league.

That may be correct, but we currently signed three shorter players to contracts which is a bit much, also Jrue is 6'4.

Shead who is 6'1, Alijah who is 6'1 and 1/2 and Hepburn who is 6'2. We drafted an undersized c in CMB who is 6'6, in the mold of an already undersized Mogbo who you drafted last year which you traded for. Last year was supposed to be a bad draft yet we went all in on last years draft. This year was a deep draft and we stood on our a$$ and did nothing.

It blows my mind that people are excited with what we did. You can't have a team of 6'2 bulldogs! this roster is flawed without major trades

how are we going to compete with the likes of the wemby's of the league. You need size to win in this league.


Lu Dort and Caruso completely destroyed the narrative that you have to have elite size to be effective. Draymond, Rodman too.
These guys play bigger than what they are and play with physicality and go into people. Raps see that with CMB, Alijah.

again, Caruso is 6'5 and Dort is 6'4. I get the premise but we have too many similar players.
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Post#218 » by GIZMO » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:07 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
GIZMO wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:People throw around "undersized" a lot and it's mostly related to height and that's fair, but this dude is not small. He's built like a linebacker. In the NBA, especially on the defensive end, it really isn't about height, it's about strength and physicality. That's why guys like Lowry and VV can be plus defenders, why Jrue can guard Cs and why Draymond is a generational defender. Also why, despite being 6'8, Dick struggles. Martin will be able to defend at the NBA level, if he can hit open shots, he could stick in the league.

That may be correct, but we currently signed three shorter players to contracts which is a bit much, also Jrue is 6'4.

Shead who is 6'1, Alijah who is 6'1 and 1/2 and Hepburn who is 6'2. We drafted an undersized c in CMB who is 6'6, in the mold of an already undersized Mogbo who you drafted last year which you traded for. Last year was supposed to be a bad draft yet we went all in on last years draft. This year was a deep draft and we stood on our a$$ and did nothing.

It blows my mind that people are excited with what we did. You can't have a team of 6'2 bulldogs! this roster is flawed without major trades

how are we going to compete with the likes of the wemby's of the league. You need size to win in this league.


I disagree with everything you said.

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Post#219 » by GIZMO » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:10 pm

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GIZMO wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:People throw around "undersized" a lot and it's mostly related to height and that's fair, but this dude is not small. He's built like a linebacker. In the NBA, especially on the defensive end, it really isn't about height, it's about strength and physicality. That's why guys like Lowry and VV can be plus defenders, why Jrue can guard Cs and why Draymond is a generational defender. Also why, despite being 6'8, Dick struggles. Martin will be able to defend at the NBA level, if he can hit open shots, he could stick in the league.

That may be correct, but we currently signed three shorter players to contracts which is a bit much, also Jrue is 6'4.

Shead who is 6'1, Alijah who is 6'1 and 1/2 and Hepburn who is 6'2. We drafted an undersized c in CMB who is 6'6, in the mold of an already undersized Mogbo who you drafted last year which you traded for. Last year was supposed to be a bad draft yet we went all in on last years draft. This year was a deep draft and we stood on our a$$ and did nothing.

It blows my mind that people are excited with what we did. You can't have a team of 6'2 bulldogs! this roster is flawed without major trades

how are we going to compete with the likes of the wemby's of the league. You need size to win in this league.


You are generalizing. Last year was a bad draft in the sense that there were not sure-fire talent at the top of the draft like this year. However, last year's second round was arguably stronger than this years cause the NIL program didn't take into effect yet. This year pretty much all the second rounders with the exception of a few slipping from the 1st where all seniors. The underclassmen sticking around cause they can make more than in the NBA as a second rounder. Was smart of Masai to load up the year before.

Wasn't a complaint about last years draft, It ended up being a good one. I love Jakobe, Shead and Mogbo but they just drafted and two more Sheads.
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