Welcome Johni Broome

[SwingOnThis]

He reminds be of a bit of Joakim Noah coming out of college.

[76ciology]

Is Derik Queen better than Johni Broome this upcoming season? How about in the next 3 years?

Derick Coleman 2.0?

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[shadowTerp]

Is Derik Queen better than Johni Broome this upcoming season?

I'm curious about this too, although noting the context is really important. The Pelicans seem to have loaded up on dominant ball handlers (Zion, Poole, Fears) and little rim protection. I doubt Queen will show out early on due to the roster construction.

Considering it seems unlikely that we'll be able to afford Yabu and that Broome will be 23 when the season starts, what do you all think the chances are he is able to carve out a backup PF role this season?

[OleSchool]

Is Derik Queen better than Johni Broome this upcoming season? How about in the next 3 years?

Derick Coleman 2.0?

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Derrick Coleman was a F'ing BEAST!!

A power forward who could play PG and shoot. He's the OG point forward. Too bad he was a knucklehead. Probably the biggest waste of talent in NBA history. If he applied himself he'd be top 10 in league history.

So, no Broome isnt Coleman 2.0

[Iscull]

If he could somehow play as a PF it would be a huge win for us. He and Bonna as our backup front court would be nice, since he seems to be a good defender and a nice post player. But his ft % is pretty bad, so i dont think he can improve his shooting baring a miracle.

I think he can play PF with a center who can shoot (Yabu, Embiid). I actually think he'd pair very well with Embiid, doing all the dirty work (Defending/Rebounding) down low.

The problem is we couldn't have him out there with Drummond, Bona, or Oubre. In today's NBA, you can only have one non 3-point shooter on the court at a time.

[Kobblehead]

Broome = Greg Monroe?

There's definitely some similarities there. Nice pull.

However, there are some key difference when it comes to psychological make-up and defense. Greg Monroe wasn't really a guy that played with a pulse. He also had little to no ability to contest shots and protect the rim. Johni Broome plays with a lot of passion and intensity (think Joakim Noah vibes) and he puts up tremendous shotblocking numbers, in spite of his wingspan.

[Kobblehead]

How do you guys compare him to Drew Timme, as both were dominant college guys who kinda dont fit in the nba? Is he a better defender?

Are we sure Drew Timme doesn't fit in the NBA? Looked pretty good in a short stint with the Nets last year.

But to answer your question: rebounding and defense. Broome and Timme shared a lot when it came to scoring and passing. However, Broome was a tank on the glass and provided excellent shotblocking to the equation. Whereas, Timme was always substandard on the glass and provided no shotblocking.

[Jailblazers7]

My concern about playing Broome at PF is his ability to guard in space. No way him & Embiid can play together imo because neither can effectively rotate out to the perimeter & guard a hard close out. Maybe he can play in a lineup with Bona because they will both player super hard & effort can make up for the fit awkwardness.

[Kobblehead]

Is Derik Queen better than Johni Broome this upcoming season? How about in the next 3 years?

It's closer than people realize.

Freshman year per-40 numbers:
Queen: 21.7 points, 11.8 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.4 steals, 1.4 blocks
Broome: 21.4 points, 14 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.9 steals, 2.9 blocks

It's not like Broome is a guy that only became dominant due to being a college vet. He was an elite producer from his freshman year. And there was zero dropoff whatsoever when he made the leap from the OVC to the SEC (which is a huge statement).

[mjkvol]

Is Derik Queen better than Johni Broome this upcoming season? How about in the next 3 years?

It's closer than people realize.

Freshman year per-40 numbers:
Queen: 21.7 points, 11.8 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 1.4 steals, 1.4 blocks
Broome: 21.4 points, 14 rebounds, 1 assist, 0.9 steals, 2.9 blocks

It's not like Broome is a guy that only became dominant due to being a college vet. He was an elite producer from his freshman year. And there was zero dropoff whatsoever when he made the leap from the OVC to the SEC (which is a huge statement).

To me, despite the numbers being similar it's really hard to compare Queen and Broome. Broome lived close to the rim offensively, usually in the low post or sometimes in the high post area and was a great offensive rebounder, while Queen was more of a face up offensive player and facilitator. And Broome was a monster defensively, while it is a major question mark with Queen.

Where they are very similar is both are undersized 5's who don't shoot it well enough to be effective 4's, although I think Queen has the ability to develop into a decent 3-ball shooter.

[Murray_17]

I have zero idea about the kid but i'm confused by this thread.

Some people are saying he can bring rim protection and then he's compared to Greg Monroe and Sabonis.

[Arsenal]

I have zero idea about the kid but i'm confused by this thread.

Some people are saying he can bring rim protection and then he's compared to Greg Monroe and Sabonis.

Broome = Sabonis + rim protection

[Kobblehead]

I have zero idea about the kid but i'm confused by this thread.

Some people are saying he can bring rim protection and then he's compared to Greg Monroe and Sabonis.

Which is understandable.

Broome is a great positional playmaker. So it's only natural to compare him to other point-Cs. However, a common denominator of a lot of those point Cs is a lack of ability to protect the rim.

That said, despite his lack of athleticism and length, Broome has elite shot-contesting timing and has proven to be a great shotblocker (ulike pretty much ALL of the playmaking, non-shotblocking Cs he's being compared to).

Maybe I'm shilling too goddamn hard for Broome, but I see an elite positional playmaker that is also a great rebounder and shotblocker. This MFer is an amazing player, in my eyes, I dunno.

[Arsenal]

I have zero idea about the kid but i'm confused by this thread.

Some people are saying he can bring rim protection and then he's compared to Greg Monroe and Sabonis.

Which is understandable.

Broome is a great positional playmaker. So it's only natural to compare him to other point-Cs. However, a common denominator of a lot of those point Cs is a lack of ability to protect the rim.

That said, despite his lack of athleticism and length, Broome has elite shot-contesting timing and has proven to be a great shotblocker (ulike pretty much ALL of the playmaking, non-shotblocking Cs he's being compared to).

Maybe I'm shilling too goddamn hard for Broome, but I see an elite positional playmaker that is also a great rebounder and shotblocker. This MFer is an amazing player, in my eyes, I dunno.

Basically, the only (big) problem with Broome is that he's an atrocious shooter. So we need a stretch-4 or 5 to pair with him, along with 3 shooters at guard and wing.

[Kobblehead]

Again, maybe I'm riding too hard.

But I just feel like Broome is going to be an amazing per-minute production beast and he's going to capture the hearts of both casuals and hardcore fans with his combo of passion antics and advanced stats.

Basically...we got one, bros.

LOL

[Murray_17]

Broome = Sabonis + rim protection

Again, i don't know anything about the kid but "Sabonis + rim protection" is an all-NBA guy, seems a little farfetched for a second round pick.

Still, i guess summer league is gonna give me a better idea.

[Arsenal]

Broome = Sabonis + rim protection

Again, i don't know anything about the kid but "Sabonis + rim protection" is an all-NBA guy, seems a little farfetched for a second round pick.

Still, i guess summer league is gonna give me a better idea.

It's unlikely he's ever that good, but that's the archetype. The key is he'll need to be surrounded by 4 shooters at all times.

[mjkvol]

I have zero idea about the kid but i'm confused by this thread.

Some people are saying he can bring rim protection and then he's compared to Greg Monroe and Sabonis.

Which is understandable.

Broome is a great positional playmaker. So it's only natural to compare him to other point-Cs. However, a common denominator of a lot of those point Cs is a lack of ability to protect the rim.

That said, despite his lack of athleticism and length, Broome has elite shot-contesting timing and has proven to be a great shotblocker (ulike pretty much ALL of the playmaking, non-shotblocking Cs he's being compared to).

Maybe I'm shilling too goddamn hard for Broome, but I see an elite positional playmaker that is also a great rebounder and shotblocker. This MFer is an amazing player, in my eyes, I dunno.

IMO you're shilling way too hard. I've seen the competitiveness, physical play, rim protection, and rebounding. But "elite positional playmaker"? I think you're reaching big time there.

I guess we'll see.

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[Kobblehead]

IMO you're shilling way too hard. I've seen the competitiveness, physical play, rim protection, and rebounding. But "elite positional playmaker"? I think you're reaching big time there.

I guess we'll see.

3.4 assists per-36 is pretty insane for a C.