Kuminga to Miami (two ways)

[parsnips33]

Honestly would rather send out Moody than Hield

I'm kind of ambivalent TBH. Moody on the whole is a more useful player IMO, but Hield has an elite skill that we badly need.

Pretty much how I feel. Moses going ice cold in the playoffs scared me, although I suppose that could be related to the thumb (?) injury

But Jimmy likes to play next to unconscious shooters, and when Hield's locked-in I think he brings more to the team than Moody, especially on a team with Wiggins back in as the primary guard defender

[cpower]

wiggins is done...he needs to go to a 3rd team.

[gswhoops]

Honestly would rather send out Moody than Hield

I'm kind of ambivalent TBH. Moody on the whole is a more useful player IMO, but Hield has an elite skill that we badly need.

Pretty much how I feel. Moses going ice cold in the playoffs scared me, although I suppose that could be related to the thumb (?) injury

But Jimmy likes to play next to unconscious shooters, and when Hield's locked-in I think he brings more to the team than Moody, especially on a team with Wiggins back in as the primary guard defender

Yeah I think ultimately I agree with you, as much as I wanted Moody to develop into the guy we all wanted when we drafted him. Especially if we end up re-signing GP2, we just need Hield's shooting more.

[ThaFranchize84]

As a Miami Fan I think the Kuminga and Moody deal for Wiggins makes a lot sense for both teams as long as Kuminga’s deal averages between $25-27 per year. Miami might have to loop in a third team to account for Moody’s additional $11 million coming in. Miami would like to get under the tax to reset the repeater tax. Moody would be a good replacement for Duncan Robinson who Miami might have to cut for partial guarantee. Maybe it involves sending Highsmith to a third team for a small asset (2nd rounder)?


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[Astaluego]

Hachimura WARRIORS
They get a starting caliber big wing who is a very good 3-point shooter and should fit in nicely between Green/Butler..

Wiggins LAKERS

Kuminga/Vincent HEAT

[gswhoops]

Hachimura WARRIORS
They get a starting caliber big wing who is a very good 3-point shooter and should fit in nicely between Green/Butler..

Wiggins LAKERS

Kuminga/Vincent HEAT

I don't see why we would want Rui over Wiggins.

[gswhoops]

As a Miami Fan I think the Kuminga and Moody deal for Wiggins makes a lot sense for both teams as long as Kuminga’s deal averages between $25-27 per year. Miami might have to loop in a third team to account for Moody’s additional $11 million coming in. Miami would like to get under the tax to reset the repeater tax. Moody would be a good replacement for Duncan Robinson who Miami might have to cut for partial guarantee. Maybe it involves sending Highsmith to a third team for a small asset (2nd rounder)?


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Keep it simple and just send us Highsmith for a 2nd. We could use the depth.

[BBallFreak]

As a Miami Fan I think the Kuminga and Moody deal for Wiggins makes a lot sense for both teams as long as Kuminga’s deal averages between $25-27 per year. Miami might have to loop in a third team to account for Moody’s additional $11 million coming in. Miami would like to get under the tax to reset the repeater tax. Moody would be a good replacement for Duncan Robinson who Miami might have to cut for partial guarantee. Maybe it involves sending Highsmith to a third team for a small asset (2nd rounder)?


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Keep it simple and just send us Highsmith for a 2nd. We could use the depth.

I would think Kevin Love would be more the guy we'd move.

[The-Power]

Hachimura WARRIORS
They get a starting caliber big wing who is a very good 3-point shooter and should fit in nicely between Green/Butler..

Wiggins LAKERS

Kuminga/Vincent HEAT

I don't see why we would want Rui over Wiggins.

I'd be happy with either Rui or Wiggins, to be honest.

Also count me as someone who'd prefer to keep Hield over Moody if it must be one or the other (as much as it would hurt to lose a – by all accounts – great guy in Moses). I think we need Hield more for the next one or two seasons and that's all that matters right now.

[Astaluego]

Hachimura WARRIORS
They get a starting caliber big wing who is a very good 3-point shooter and should fit in nicely between Green/Butler..

Wiggins LAKERS

Kuminga/Vincent HEAT

I don't see why we would want Rui over Wiggins.

Rui is 10 million cheaper (I thought that would make salary equalization easier at the ST), also Hachimura is bigger and more suitable for the 4, (he can even play the 5) in addition to being a better shooter... in short, I thought he was a better fit for the Warriors' needs.

[gswhoops]

As a Miami Fan I think the Kuminga and Moody deal for Wiggins makes a lot sense for both teams as long as Kuminga’s deal averages between $25-27 per year. Miami might have to loop in a third team to account for Moody’s additional $11 million coming in. Miami would like to get under the tax to reset the repeater tax. Moody would be a good replacement for Duncan Robinson who Miami might have to cut for partial guarantee. Maybe it involves sending Highsmith to a third team for a small asset (2nd rounder)?


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Keep it simple and just send us Highsmith for a 2nd. We could use the depth.

I would think Kevin Love would be more the guy we'd move.

That'd be fine by me too honestly. Here's my attempt to make this all work (by combining it with a Duncan dump):

MIA out: Wiggins, DRob, Love, 2nds
MIA in: Kuminga (S&T 3 years $75M), Moody

GSW out: Kuminga, Moody
GSW in: Wiggins, Love

BKN out: top-55 protected 2nd round pick
BKN in: DRob (via TPE), MIA 2nds

Warriors end up looking like:

TJD / (Looney) / Post
Green / Love / Santos
Butler / Toohey (2-way)
Wiggins / Hield / (GP2)
Curry / Podz / (Spencer) / Richard (2-way)

Definitely need to add some wing depth but otherwise pretty solid.

[BBallFreak]

Keep it simple and just send us Highsmith for a 2nd. We could use the depth.

I would think Kevin Love would be more the guy we'd move.

That'd be fine by me too honestly. Here's my attempt to make this all work (by combining it with a Duncan dump):

MIA out: Wiggins, DRob, Love, 2nds
MIA in: Kuminga (S&T 3 years $75M), Moody

GSW out: Kuminga, Moody
GSW in: Wiggins, Love

BKN out: top-55 protected 2nd round pick
BKN in: DRob (via TPE), MIA 2nds

Warriors end up looking like:

TJD / (Looney) / Post
Green / Love / Santos
Butler / Toohey (2-way)
Wiggins / Hield / (GP2)
Curry / Podz / (Spencer) / Richard (2-way)

Definitely need to add some wing depth but otherwise pretty solid.

And Miami would be:

Pg: Mitchell / Smith
Sg: Herro / KJ / Larsson
Sf: Kuminga / JJJ / Highsmith
Pf: Bam / Jovic / Anderson
Cc: Ware

We'd need another center but I'm not mad at the lineup. We'd really need to work with Kuminga on his defense but surrounding he and Herro with great defenders should cover up some weaknesses.

I'd be very excited to see some of the combinations we could throw at people. Lot of versatility there.

[xdrta+]

That'd be fine by me too honestly. Here's my attempt to make this all work (by combining it with a Duncan dump):

MIA out: Wiggins, DRob, Love, 2nds
MIA in: Kuminga (S&T 3 years $75M), Moody

GSW out: Kuminga, Moody
GSW in: Wiggins, Love

BKN out: top-55 protected 2nd round pick
BKN in: DRob (via TPE), MIA 2nds

Warriors end up looking like:

TJD / (Looney) / Post
Green / Love / Santos
Butler / Toohey (2-way)
Wiggins / Hield / (GP2)
Curry / Podz / (Spencer) / Richard (2-way)

Definitely need to add some wing depth but otherwise pretty solid.

I like the value for Kuminga, but not sure GS is willing to cap themselves at the 1st Apron again. This leaves them with 10 players and about $16M in room below the Apron. Not much flexibility when they really need to upgrade at least some of TJD, Santos, GP2, and Looney. Preferably all of them.

[gswhoops]

That'd be fine by me too honestly. Here's my attempt to make this all work (by combining it with a Duncan dump):

MIA out: Wiggins, DRob, Love, 2nds
MIA in: Kuminga (S&T 3 years $75M), Moody

GSW out: Kuminga, Moody
GSW in: Wiggins, Love

BKN out: top-55 protected 2nd round pick
BKN in: DRob (via TPE), MIA 2nds

Warriors end up looking like:

TJD / (Looney) / Post
Green / Love / Santos
Butler / Toohey (2-way)
Wiggins / Hield / (GP2)
Curry / Podz / (Spencer) / Richard (2-way)

Definitely need to add some wing depth but otherwise pretty solid.

I like the value for Kuminga, but not sure GS is willing to cap themselves at the 1st Apron again. This leaves them with 10 players and about $16M in room below the Apron. Not much flexibility when they really need to upgrade at least some of TJD, Santos, GP2, and Looney. Preferably all of them.

I'm assuming Looney and GP2 are coming back at/near the vet min (and if they cost significantly more, I'd let them walk tbh), which would give us enough room to use a decent chunk of the MLE to add a wing and then fill out the remaining roster spots. I don't really see another path to getting a guy more ready to contribute over the next 1-2 years than Wiggins

[gswhoops]

Hachimura WARRIORS
They get a starting caliber big wing who is a very good 3-point shooter and should fit in nicely between Green/Butler..

Wiggins LAKERS

Kuminga/Vincent HEAT

I don't see why we would want Rui over Wiggins.

Rui is 10 million cheaper (I thought that would make salary equalization easier at the ST), also Hachimura is bigger and more suitable for the 4, (he can even play the 5) in addition to being a better shooter... in short, I thought he was a better fit for the Warriors' needs.

Wiggins is just a flat-out better player on both ends of the floor, in addition to the fact that he already knows our system and is well-liked by the players and coaching staff.