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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#61 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:13 pm

JonFromVA wrote:fwiw, Vegas had the Cavs at +1700 to win the East last season, and they have us with the best odds at +270 right now.

Apparently they have complete faith in whatever Altman decides to do or not do?
I mean, the East sucks next season hahahaha

If we can just one time not catch the spring injury bug, the Cavs should be representing the East in 2026.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#62 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:45 am

I love pick 49. Proctor. 6'5" PG

Ty Jerome is gone.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#63 » by toooskies » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:50 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:I love pick 49. Proctor. 6'5" PG

Ty Jerome is gone.

Proctor didn’t really play PG all year. Sion James brought the ball up and Flagg or Knueppel initiated offense. Proctor was more like Merrill for Duke this year.

This is not a comment on Jerome as much as it is an acquisition of a spot-up shooter who can dribble and has some length.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#64 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:57 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I love pick 49. Proctor. 6'5" PG

Ty Jerome is gone.

Proctor didn’t really play PG all year. Sion James brought the ball up and Flagg or Knueppel initiated offense. Proctor was more like Merrill for Duke this year.

This is not a comment on Jerome as much as it is an acquisition of a spot-up shooter who can dribble and has some length.
Chat Sports thinks he replaces Merrill and Jerome hahahah

But yeah, he's already set to sign a standard deal they announced. May have maneuvered himself to CLE.

Solid to get a guy with a first round mock at #49.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#65 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:25 am

Hate 58, ended up being Niang. He probably never comes over, just like Diop.

Goldin and Dixon were both there, select one, what the heck.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#66 » by toooskies » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:49 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:Hate 58, ended up being Niang. He probably never comes over, just like Diop.

Goldin and Dixon were both there, select one, what the heck.

If they want they can sign one as a UDFA. I wonder what our two-way plans are if Proctor is a full contract and Niang is a stash.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#67 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:59 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Hate 58, ended up being Niang. He probably never comes over, just like Diop.

Goldin and Dixon were both there, select one, what the heck.

If they want they can sign one as a UDFA. I wonder what our two-way plans are if Proctor is a full contract and Niang is a stash.
Dixon already signed with the Lakers and Goldin with the Heat.

Well, we know 1 of our 3 is already taken by Tomlin.

Bates is a restricted FA again, so i assume we let him go try to find a standard deal again this summer, if not, he comes back on a 2way for the 3rd year in a row, is my assumption.

The 3rd one, i have no clue what we do. It'd be nice if Diop could finally come over but i assume he's not ready, still.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#68 » by Pipp33 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:13 am

toooskies wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I love pick 49. Proctor. 6'5" PG

Ty Jerome is gone.

Proctor didn’t really play PG all year. Sion James brought the ball up and Flagg or Knueppel initiated offense. Proctor was more like Merrill for Duke this year.

This is not a comment on Jerome as much as it is an acquisition of a spot-up shooter who can dribble and has some length.


Correct, but he does have good PG instincts, it's just not the role that Duke needed him to play this last season. Also pretty good defender

Love this pick for the Cavs.

I think he will be another guard that stayed 3+ years in college (Brunson, Nembhard, Brogdan etc), who comes in and can make an impact straight away, because they have a good IQ and experience. He'll carve out a very nice NBA career I think.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#69 » by JonFromVA » Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:36 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:I love pick 49. Proctor. 6'5" PG

Ty Jerome is gone.


Well, seems we emphasized making sure we have some depth in case things get crazy for Jerome or Merrill and with Garland likely to miss a chunk of the season.

It's quite possible we like Tomlin better then any of the bigs available at 58 and I suppose we can kick tires on Diop this Summer if he's healthy and feels like coming over.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#70 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:34 am

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I love pick 49. Proctor. 6'5" PG

Ty Jerome is gone.


Well, seems we emphasized making sure we have some depth in case things get crazy for Jerome or Merrill and with Garland likely to miss a chunk of the season.

It's quite possible we like Tomlin better then any of the bigs available at 58 and I suppose we can kick tires on Diop this Summer if he's healthy and feels like coming over.
Tomlin is way too little for my liking. 6'8.25" barefoot, so i do not believe his list height. I watched i think 3 or 4 of his games last season, he's still very raw.

Koby has refused to seriously address back-up center since January 2021 and it is beyond baffling.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#71 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:09 pm

https://www.fearthesword.com/2025/6/17/24451083/report-cavs-might-trade-both-of-their-2025-nba-draft-picks

Also, can we just point out how wrong Windy was again? lol

Guy is not plugged in at all to what the Cavs are doing.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#72 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:11 pm

https://www.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/articles/cavaliers_sign_auburns_chaney_johnson_to_exhibit_10_deal/s1_17038_42381938

Truly a nothing burger here but ya might see him in camp before he is waived and headed to the Charge, so i posted it.

Chaney Johnson.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#73 » by JonFromVA » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:18 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:I love pick 49. Proctor. 6'5" PG

Ty Jerome is gone.


Well, seems we emphasized making sure we have some depth in case things get crazy for Jerome or Merrill and with Garland likely to miss a chunk of the season.

It's quite possible we like Tomlin better then any of the bigs available at 58 and I suppose we can kick tires on Diop this Summer if he's healthy and feels like coming over.
Tomlin is way too little for my liking. 6'8.25" barefoot, so i do not believe his list height. I watched i think 3 or 4 of his games last season, he's still very raw.

Koby has refused to seriously address back-up center since January 2021 and it is beyond baffling.


Nae'Qwan has a 7'2.5" wingspan and a 9'1" standing reach and in the past we would have called him 6'10" so he has the length to be the kind of small mobile C I think would be a reasonable compromise; but is surprisingly listed at just 210 at 24 years of age? That weight may be BS as it's the same weight he was listed at Kansas State.

I imagine we rate him higher than any of the C prospects left at 59, and the guy we did grab will tell you we'd rather grab a younger player who might develop in to something useful than take an older guy who we know can't move his feet.

No guarantee any of these guys are or will be ready to contribute this season, though, so if we really want someone other than TT and Dean to play backup C minutes we should be looking for a vet min signing, trade, or even just see who other team's release.

I've got to imagine the Nets can't just add 5 first round picks to their roster without letting someone go ...
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#74 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:27 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.fearthesword.com/2025/6/17/24451083/report-cavs-might-trade-both-of-their-2025-nba-draft-picks

Also, can we just point out how wrong Windy was again? lol

Guy is not plugged in at all to what the Cavs are doing.


Just because they didn't move up doesn't mean they didn't try.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#75 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:28 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:Hate 58, ended up being Niang. He probably never comes over, just like Diop.

Goldin and Dixon were both there, select one, what the heck.


I'll be interested in how Diop plays in summer league
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#76 » by JonFromVA » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:34 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Hate 58, ended up being Niang. He probably never comes over, just like Diop.

Goldin and Dixon were both there, select one, what the heck.


I'll be interested in how Diop plays in summer league


I forgot but presumably Okeke is still on the roster ... our 6'4" backup big.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#77 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:14 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.fearthesword.com/2025/6/17/24451083/report-cavs-might-trade-both-of-their-2025-nba-draft-picks

Also, can we just point out how wrong Windy was again? lol

Guy is not plugged in at all to what the Cavs are doing.


Just because they didn't move up doesn't mean they didn't try.
Guy said we were going to trade 1 or both picks to try and dump Wade/Okoro OR move up.

He specifically said the Cavs won't draft at 49 and 58 and that's exactly what we did lol
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#78 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:14 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Hate 58, ended up being Niang. He probably never comes over, just like Diop.

Goldin and Dixon were both there, select one, what the heck.


I'll be interested in how Diop plays in summer league
Is he for sure coming over? I think he skipped last summer.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#79 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:15 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Hate 58, ended up being Niang. He probably never comes over, just like Diop.

Goldin and Dixon were both there, select one, what the heck.


I'll be interested in how Diop plays in summer league


I forgot but presumably Okeke is still on the roster ... our 6'4" backup big.
You'll know by Sunday, his team option is for June 29th.
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Re: 2025-26 Off-Season 

Post#80 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:30 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Well, seems we emphasized making sure we have some depth in case things get crazy for Jerome or Merrill and with Garland likely to miss a chunk of the season.

It's quite possible we like Tomlin better then any of the bigs available at 58 and I suppose we can kick tires on Diop this Summer if he's healthy and feels like coming over.
Tomlin is way too little for my liking. 6'8.25" barefoot, so i do not believe his list height. I watched i think 3 or 4 of his games last season, he's still very raw.

Koby has refused to seriously address back-up center since January 2021 and it is beyond baffling.


Nae'Qwan has a 7'2.5" wingspan and a 9'1" standing reach and in the past we would have called him 6'10" so he has the length to be the kind of small mobile C I think would be a reasonable compromise; but is surprisingly listed at just 210 at 24 years of age? That weight may be BS as it's the same weight he was listed at Kansas State.

I imagine we rate him higher than any of the C prospects left at 59, and the guy we did grab will tell you we'd rather grab a younger player who might develop in to something useful than take an older guy who we know can't move his feet.

No guarantee any of these guys are or will be ready to contribute this season, though, so if we really want someone other than TT and Dean to play backup C minutes we should be looking for a vet min signing, trade, or even just see who other team's release.

I've got to imagine the Nets can't just add 5 first round picks to their roster without letting someone go ...

To the bold, no, Chat Sports did a great job covering this on the live stream. Player agents tell teams to not draft their guys. It's no shock Goldin and Dixon signed 2way deals right as the clock expired on the draft. Niang will never play a single NBA minute, complete waste of a pick. I woulda taken a domestic stash over that.

Proctor will for sure be in Kenny's 10 man rotation, at least early in the season; assuming TJ and Sam are gone.

The Nets have like 3 guys under contract as of today, they could add all 5 rookies, if they wanted to.

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