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Re: [Shams] Masai Ujiri is out as Vice Chairman and President of the Toronto Raptors 

Post#1601 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:00 pm

JAMMER7 wrote:I'm so HAPPY !!!

Masai is INCOMPETENT.

He always was.

I won't go into the LONG, LONG, list of all the glaringly STUPID decisions he made. And the decisions he wouldn't make, dragging his heels and evaluating, evaluating, that cost the Raptors dearly.

Now many people are going to jump to the argument that Masai was responsible for the Raptors winning their only NBA championship.

So of course, he's a basketball savant.

He's NOT! When Masai traded DeRozan and Poetl etc. to San Antonio for Kawhi and Danny Green, it was a very uncharacteristic -- and I would say desperate move -- for Ujiri, after years of frustration and ineptitude on the court.

And it worked, obviously. So hurray!

But just look at Masai's actions -- and a lot of inactions -- before and after that championship year. What he demonstrated, over and over, is chronic indecisiveness -- paralysis by analysis -- poor player evaluation and asset management, and the ever-looming possibility of boneheaded draft decisions.

Bruno Caboclo, anyone? And how about passing up Kyle Filipowski (and others) -- instead of Mogbo, for God's sake! mostly as a playmate for Scottie -- in last year's draft and Walker Kesler in 2022, both at times when the Raptors clearly needed help at centre.

Even this year's draft selection seems tinged with the familiar, OMG! we've picked WHO? reaction from many people. There's always second-guessing of course, and CMB might be good value. But you often must question the value -- and fit -- of MU picks.

Many people are going to object to what I'm saying, pointing to Scottie's pick, which went against the grain and worked out great so far, although the lack of shooting is still an issue.

And Masai -- I'd guess it's actually Bobby -- has made some really good personnel decisions lately, including trades that landed RJ, Quickley and BI, in separate deals.

But the torrent of flat out stupid decisions -- including completely botching the Fred VanVleet situation and losing him for nothing, similarly mismanaging the Marc Gasol and Serge Ibaka dealings,the Goran Dragic debacle, the Thaddeus Young and Dennis Schroder messes and the careless discarding of first-round picks for minimal returns.

I could go on. People have short memories. But some of you will remember ... and understand.

Getting rid of Masai is the very BEST thing that could happen! My only concern is who will replace him? And if it's Bobby, how good is he? I've long believed that it was Masai who pulled the strings. Maybe, now that he's gone, Bobby will shine.

We have to hope so.

James in Halifax


You're on an island with not many supporters when it comes to this take, u Masai haters aren't Raptor fans, y'all are fans of w/e ideology you subscribe to, probably a false poorly thought out ideology at that
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Re: [Shams] Masai Ujiri is out as Vice Chairman and President of the Toronto Raptors 

Post#1602 » by Cyrus » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:00 pm

think masai will have something lined up, pelly mentioned you'll hear from masai soon enough, probably knows something is coming.

Doubt masai is going to have press conference by himself explaining his side but I guess it could be possible

Think it's Wizards, maybe part ownership offer, or maybe hawks / back to Denver
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Post#1603 » by littlerock2277 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:05 pm

Time to move on. Sometimes it’s hard to replicate success created in the past. We still have the same management that has been with him for over a decade. So we still have some form a stability in our front office.
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Re: [Shams] Masai Ujiri is out as Vice Chairman and President of the Toronto Raptors 

Post#1604 » by Cyrus » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:05 pm

JAMMER7 wrote:I'm so HAPPY !!!

Masai is INCOMPETENT.

He always was.

I won't go into the LONG, LONG, list of all the glaringly STUPID decisions he made. And the decisions he wouldn't make, dragging his heels and evaluating, evaluating, that cost the Raptors dearly.

Now many people are going to jump to the argument that Masai was responsible for the Raptors winning their only NBA championship.

So of course, he's a basketball savant.

He's NOT! When Masai traded DeRozan and Poetl etc. to San Antonio for Kawhi and Danny Green, it was a very uncharacteristic -- and I would say desperate move -- for Ujiri, after years of frustration and ineptitude on the court.

And it worked, obviously. So hurray!

But just look at Masai's actions -- and a lot of inactions -- before and after that championship year. What he demonstrated, over and over, is chronic indecisiveness -- paralysis by analysis -- poor player evaluation and asset management, and the ever-looming possibility of boneheaded draft decisions.

Bruno Caboclo, anyone? And how about passing up Kyle Filipowski (and others) -- instead of Mogbo, for God's sake! mostly as a playmate for Scottie -- in last year's draft and Walker Kesler in 2022, both at times when the Raptors clearly needed help at centre.

Even this year's draft selection seems tinged with the familiar, OMG! we've picked WHO? reaction from many people. There's always second-guessing of course, and CMB might be good value. But you often must question the value -- and fit -- of MU picks.

Many people are going to object to what I'm saying, pointing to Scottie's pick, which went against the grain and worked out great so far, although the lack of shooting is still an issue.

And Masai -- I'd guess it's actually Bobby -- has made some really good personnel decisions lately, including trades that landed RJ, Quickley and BI, in separate deals.

But the torrent of flat out stupid decisions -- including completely botching the Fred VanVleet situation and losing him for nothing, similarly mismanaging the Marc Gasol and Serge Ibaka dealings,the Goran Dragic debacle, the Thaddeus Young and Dennis Schroder messes and the careless discarding of first-round picks for minimal returns.

I could go on. People have short memories. But some of you will remember ... and understand.

Getting rid of Masai is the very BEST thing that could happen! My only concern is who will replace him? And if it's Bobby, how good is he? I've long believed that it was Masai who pulled the strings. Maybe, now that he's gone, Bobby will shine.

We have to hope so.

James in Halifax


This is nonsense, not to mention your not going to see changes when the whole management team has been retained :lol:

It's going to be more of the same, not picking lane, valuing flexibly, rebuilding while also making win now moves or value plays... all things you saw in the last 3 years.

Not to mention Rogers will want playoff dates so will see more laterall win now moves to push in for play in / playoffs
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Post#1605 » by ForeverTFC » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:08 pm

Cyrus wrote:think masai will have something lined up, pelly mentioned you'll hear from masai soon enough, probably knows something is coming.

Doubt masai is going to have press conference by himself explaining his side but I guess it could be possible

Think it's Wizards, maybe part ownership offer, or maybe hawks / back to Denver


I can’t see him taking on the Hawks / Wizards and Korenke isn’t paying him what he wants in Denver.

If it’s the NBA, it will be the Lakers or one of the expansion franchises.
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Post#1606 » by ___Rand___ » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:11 pm

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ill-Will03 wrote:But Ross aktkins and Shapiro are still here? Wtf is up with that


It’s pretty scary when you think about what has happened with the Jays. This has been going on for a decade.

10 years is a long time lol


Rogers only surrounds himself with yes men and only feels comfortable around mediocre people. His own father chose a different guy over him to run Rogers and Ed got jealous and ousted him.

Again, anyone who takes the side of this unremarkable nepo baby is simply just as mediocre.


I used to work in Telecom when it was hot. Got to know a few industry insiders. At that time his father Ted was still running the company. Ed and his some of his sisters were also executives in Rogers. People who worked with or dealt with them said Ed is dumb as **** and his sister was far more capable and bright (forgot which one). But Ted being the sexist chose the only son over the daughters but was smart enough not to make him CEO.
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Post#1607 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:14 pm

Ujiri and his crew should have been fired way sooner. Sad part is his loser crew is still in there and they'll continue to trade 1st round picks and have no spacing with Ben Simmons like players on the court.
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Post#1608 » by PushDaRock » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:14 pm

Raptors_128 wrote:I don’t like Bobby and I hate Pelley.

Hoping they hire a legit POBO and not some business man


lol considering Pelley mentioned "someone with real business acumen" several times, wouldn't hold my breath.
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Post#1609 » by Raps Next GM » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:15 pm

JAMMER7 wrote:I won't go into the LONG, LONG, list of all the glaringly STUPID decisions he made.


How about naming one. I don't mean mistakes that everyone and every GM makes, but a "glaringly stupid" decision. I am not shedding tears over today's news but I cannot think of one decision that wasn't without some merit in the thought process. The closest I can point to was reacquiring Poeltl... I was okay with a FRP but thought it should have been lottery protected rather than just top-6.

JAMMER7 wrote:He's NOT! When Masai traded DeRozan and Poetl etc. to San Antonio for Kawhi and Danny Green, it was a very uncharacteristic -- and I would say desperate move -- for Ujiri, after years of frustration and ineptitude on the court.


Yes, trading away the face of the franchise for a superstar who had long been battling injuries and was to be a free agent in a year would be uncharacteristic for any GM.

JAMMER7 wrote:And it worked, obviously.


If it was so obvious, then why didn't another team outbid the Raptors? Even at the time I was shocked that they got him for so little in return.

JAMMER7 wrote:What he demonstrated, over and over, is chronic indecisiveness -- paralysis by analysis -- poor player evaluation and asset management, and the ever-looming possibility of boneheaded draft decisions.


He fired Casey coming off Coach of The Year. He fired Nurse after his run of success. He made the aggressive Gasol trade to cap off the title run. So I wouldn't call him indecisive. But I also don't view him as impulsive and reckless. He doesn't make rash decisions, which I view as a positive.

As for his draft decisions, Siakam at #27. OG at #23. Barnes at #4 when everyone wanted Suggs. Poelt at #9. Not to mention recent guys who still have potential in JaKobe, Shead and CMB.

JAMMER7 wrote:Bruno Caboclo, anyone? And how about passing up Kyle Filipowski (and others) -- instead of Mogbo, for God's sake! mostly as a playmate for Scottie -- in last year's draft and Walker Kesler in 2022, both at times when the Raptors clearly needed help at centre.


Find me the GM who hasn't made any mistakes in the draft.

JAMMER7 wrote:But the torrent of flat out stupid decisions -- including completely botching the Fred VanVleet situation and losing him for nothing, similarly mismanaging the Marc Gasol and Serge Ibaka dealings,the Goran Dragic debacle, the Thaddeus Young and Dennis Schroder messes and the careless discarding of first-round picks for minimal returns.


I view most of those as mistakes, not stupidity. He signed FVV as an undrafted free agent. You can't criticize Masai for losing FVV without acknowledging him for bringing Freddie in in the first place.
Gasol/Ibaka were two older guys that didn't fit the rebuilding timeline. I see nothing wrong with that.
Goran Dragic? I barely remember him being a Raptor. Calling it a "debacle" is a bit strong. It barely qualifies as Raptors' trivia.
Thad was a shot that didn't land. Schroder was an inexpensive hope to replace FVV, so what?
Aside from Thad, what other FRPs were carelessly discarded?
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Post#1610 » by right between the eyes » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:16 pm

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JAMMER7 wrote:I'm so HAPPY !!!

Masai is INCOMPETENT.

He always was.

I won't go into the LONG, LONG, list of all the glaringly STUPID decisions he made. And the decisions he wouldn't make, dragging his heels and evaluating, evaluating, that cost the Raptors dearly.

Now many people are going to jump to the argument that Masai was responsible for the Raptors winning their only NBA championship.

So of course, he's a basketball savant.

He's NOT! When Masai traded DeRozan and Poetl etc. to San Antonio for Kawhi and Danny Green, it was a very uncharacteristic -- and I would say desperate move -- for Ujiri, after years of frustration and ineptitude on the court.

And it worked, obviously. So hurray!

But just look at Masai's actions -- and a lot of inactions -- before and after that championship year. What he demonstrated, over and over, is chronic indecisiveness -- paralysis by analysis -- poor player evaluation and asset management, and the ever-looming possibility of boneheaded draft decisions.

Bruno Caboclo, anyone? And how about passing up Kyle Filipowski (and others) -- instead of Mogbo, for God's sake! mostly as a playmate for Scottie -- in last year's draft and Walker Kesler in 2022, both at times when the Raptors clearly needed help at centre.

Even this year's draft selection seems tinged with the familiar, OMG! we've picked WHO? reaction from many people. There's always second-guessing of course, and CMB might be good value. But you often must question the value -- and fit -- of MU picks.

Many people are going to object to what I'm saying, pointing to Scottie's pick, which went against the grain and worked out great so far, although the lack of shooting is still an issue.

And Masai -- I'd guess it's actually Bobby -- has made some really good personnel decisions lately, including trades that landed RJ, Quickley and BI, in separate deals.

But the torrent of flat out stupid decisions -- including completely botching the Fred VanVleet situation and losing him for nothing, similarly mismanaging the Marc Gasol and Serge Ibaka dealings,the Goran Dragic debacle, the Thaddeus Young and Dennis Schroder messes and the careless discarding of first-round picks for minimal returns.

I could go on. People have short memories. But some of you will remember ... and understand.

Getting rid of Masai is the very BEST thing that could happen! My only concern is who will replace him? And if it's Bobby, how good is he? I've long believed that it was Masai who pulled the strings. Maybe, now that he's gone, Bobby will shine.

We have to hope so.

James in Halifax


You're on an island with not many supporters when it comes to this take, u Masai haters aren't Raptor fans, y'all are fans of w/e ideology you subscribe to, probably a false poorly thought out ideology at that


I swear Jammer is Ed Rogers' grandson lmao
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Post#1611 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:17 pm

Bruh is JAMMER7 Keith Pelley or Bryan Colangelo's burner?
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Post#1612 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:19 pm

right between the eyes wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
JAMMER7 wrote:I'm so HAPPY !!!

Masai is INCOMPETENT.

He always was.

I won't go into the LONG, LONG, list of all the glaringly STUPID decisions he made. And the decisions he wouldn't make, dragging his heels and evaluating, evaluating, that cost the Raptors dearly.

Now many people are going to jump to the argument that Masai was responsible for the Raptors winning their only NBA championship.

So of course, he's a basketball savant.

He's NOT! When Masai traded DeRozan and Poetl etc. to San Antonio for Kawhi and Danny Green, it was a very uncharacteristic -- and I would say desperate move -- for Ujiri, after years of frustration and ineptitude on the court.

And it worked, obviously. So hurray!

But just look at Masai's actions -- and a lot of inactions -- before and after that championship year. What he demonstrated, over and over, is chronic indecisiveness -- paralysis by analysis -- poor player evaluation and asset management, and the ever-looming possibility of boneheaded draft decisions.

Bruno Caboclo, anyone? And how about passing up Kyle Filipowski (and others) -- instead of Mogbo, for God's sake! mostly as a playmate for Scottie -- in last year's draft and Walker Kesler in 2022, both at times when the Raptors clearly needed help at centre.

Even this year's draft selection seems tinged with the familiar, OMG! we've picked WHO? reaction from many people. There's always second-guessing of course, and CMB might be good value. But you often must question the value -- and fit -- of MU picks.

Many people are going to object to what I'm saying, pointing to Scottie's pick, which went against the grain and worked out great so far, although the lack of shooting is still an issue.

And Masai -- I'd guess it's actually Bobby -- has made some really good personnel decisions lately, including trades that landed RJ, Quickley and BI, in separate deals.

But the torrent of flat out stupid decisions -- including completely botching the Fred VanVleet situation and losing him for nothing, similarly mismanaging the Marc Gasol and Serge Ibaka dealings,the Goran Dragic debacle, the Thaddeus Young and Dennis Schroder messes and the careless discarding of first-round picks for minimal returns.

I could go on. People have short memories. But some of you will remember ... and understand.

Getting rid of Masai is the very BEST thing that could happen! My only concern is who will replace him? And if it's Bobby, how good is he? I've long believed that it was Masai who pulled the strings. Maybe, now that he's gone, Bobby will shine.

We have to hope so.

James in Halifax


You're on an island with not many supporters when it comes to this take, u Masai haters aren't Raptor fans, y'all are fans of w/e ideology you subscribe to, probably a false poorly thought out ideology at that


I swear Jammer is Ed Rogers' grandson lmao


Jammer is right and you guys are drinking the Masai KOOLAID.. Our fans are the worst and have completely forgot how bad Masai has been since 2019.. Should have fired him years ago. TRASH! His loser crew is still in there tho which should be concerning
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Post#1613 » by right between the eyes » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:23 pm

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right between the eyes wrote:
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You're on an island with not many supporters when it comes to this take, u Masai haters aren't Raptor fans, y'all are fans of w/e ideology you subscribe to, probably a false poorly thought out ideology at that


I swear Jammer is Ed Rogers' grandson lmao


Jammer is right and you guys are drinking the Masai KOOLAID.. Our fans are the worst and have completely forgot how bad Masai has been since 2019.. Should have fired him years ago. TRASH! His loser crew is still in there tho which should be concerning


Which exec is perfect FFS?? Dude take the good with the bad. This franchise was an unmitigated disaster before Masai. We didn't get a chance to defend our chip because Kawhi left like normal champions do and then covid and the bubble happened. We are in a good shape going forward with a plethora of young talent.
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Post#1614 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:24 pm

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JAMMER7 wrote:I won't go into the LONG, LONG, list of all the glaringly STUPID decisions he made.


How about naming one. I don't mean mistakes that everyone and every GM makes, but a "glaringly stupid" decision. I am not shedding tears over today's news but I cannot think of one decision that wasn't without some merit in the thought process. The closest I can point to was reacquiring Poeltl... I was okay with a FRP but thought it should have been lottery protected rather than just top-6.



Trading OG too late(he lost the trade)
Trading Siakam too late(lost the trade)
Trading for washed up Thad Young(lost the trade)
Letting Fred walk for nothing
Trading picks for a expiring Poeltl who makes our BAD spacing even worse.(lost the trade and missed out on a tank for wemby)
Overpaying Quickly
Overpaying Birch
Overpaying pretty much every player he signs too many to name..
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Post#1615 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:26 pm

right between the eyes wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
right between the eyes wrote:
I swear Jammer is Ed Rogers' grandson lmao


Jammer is right and you guys are drinking the Masai KOOLAID.. Our fans are the worst and have completely forgot how bad Masai has been since 2019.. Should have fired him years ago. TRASH! His loser crew is still in there tho which should be concerning


Which exec is perfect FFS?? Dude take the good with the bad. This franchise was an unmitigated disaster before Masai. We didn't get a chance to defend our chip because Kawhi left like normal champions do and then covid and the bubble happened. We are in a good shape going forward with a plethora of young talent.



he's been bad for 6 years STRAIGHT... it's not one mistake it's many. Let's stop accepting mediocrity and stop living in the 2019 hay days... He got lucky and now we're back to where we were before he got here.
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Post#1616 » by ___Rand___ » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:38 pm

junot111 wrote:Wtf... This ruined my morning


Ruined my day.
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Post#1617 » by PushDaRock » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:49 pm

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
right between the eyes wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
Jammer is right and you guys are drinking the Masai KOOLAID.. Our fans are the worst and have completely forgot how bad Masai has been since 2019.. Should have fired him years ago. TRASH! His loser crew is still in there tho which should be concerning


Which exec is perfect FFS?? Dude take the good with the bad. This franchise was an unmitigated disaster before Masai. We didn't get a chance to defend our chip because Kawhi left like normal champions do and then covid and the bubble happened. We are in a good shape going forward with a plethora of young talent.



he's been bad for 6 years STRAIGHT... it's not one mistake it's many. Let's stop accepting mediocrity and stop living in the 2019 hay days... He got lucky and now we're back to where we were before he got here.


19/20 season was bad?
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Post#1618 » by PushDaRock » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:50 pm

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junot111 wrote:Wtf... This ruined my morning


Ruined my day.


Ruined my week.
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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
right between the eyes wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
Jammer is right and you guys are drinking the Masai KOOLAID.. Our fans are the worst and have completely forgot how bad Masai has been since 2019.. Should have fired him years ago. TRASH! His loser crew is still in there tho which should be concerning


Which exec is perfect FFS?? Dude take the good with the bad. This franchise was an unmitigated disaster before Masai. We didn't get a chance to defend our chip because Kawhi left like normal champions do and then covid and the bubble happened. We are in a good shape going forward with a plethora of young talent.



he's been bad for 6 years STRAIGHT... it's not one mistake it's many. Let's stop accepting mediocrity and stop living in the 2019 hay days... He got lucky and now we're back to where we were before he got here.


Mr. Pelley, you are needed in Mr. Rogers’ office. It’s time for his daily foot rub.
Please step away from the computer.


Come on, man… 2025 minus six years means you’re including 2019. What should he have done, won two championships that season?!

I’m all for reflection on Masai’s highs and lows, but this level of vitriol and refusal to acknowledge his accomplishments is a bit much.
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Post#1620 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:52 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
___Rand___ wrote:
junot111 wrote:Wtf... This ruined my morning


Ruined my day.


Ruined my week.


Ruined my month
In Masai We Trust :meditate:
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