2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[phincsfan]

Wonder if we could get CHI to move off of Coby White? Flip Simons to CHI with picks attached for Coby White and Kevin Huerter. Technically needs to be a part of the Jrue trade because we're taking back more than Simons' salary there which we can't do as an above the 1st apron team, but layering it into the Jrue trade works because it's not more than his salary.

Problem is CHI is probably going to want a ransom for White because he's one of their only "building block" pieces and his deal isn't really extendable since his salary is so low that he won't accept an allowable raise. So we'd probably be giving up more picks than we're comfortable with for an unextended player. But Coby White is a really good player. 6'5" on ball-off ball type of guard that has worked well here. Good shooter, but not just a specialist. Has shown defensive willingness before which is more likely to be played up here compared to guys who just flat out have never shown interest on that end.

That'd be a good core piece to have going forward. We'd the have Huerter/Niang/Hauser to move for some combo of salary savings and front court bodies, even if not long term solutions.

I like White.

I think White is a keeper for Chicago. He's cheap this year, he's in their system and if he gives his average again they just give him a contract vs taking a chance on Simons giving his average and having to pay the same as White. White's bigger, little better defender and I'm sure a fan favorite.

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Wonder if we could get CHI to move off of Coby White? Flip Simons to CHI with picks attached for Coby White and Kevin Huerter. Technically needs to be a part of the Jrue trade because we're taking back more than Simons' salary there which we can't do as an above the 1st apron team, but layering it into the Jrue trade works because it's not more than his salary.

Problem is CHI is probably going to want a ransom for White because he's one of their only "building block" pieces and his deal isn't really extendable since his salary is so low that he won't accept an allowable raise. So we'd probably be giving up more picks than we're comfortable with for an unextended player. But Coby White is a really good player. 6'5" on ball-off ball type of guard that has worked well here. Good shooter, but not just a specialist. Has shown defensive willingness before which is more likely to be played up here compared to guys who just flat out have never shown interest on that end.

That'd be a good core piece to have going forward. We'd the have Huerter/Niang/Hauser to move for some combo of salary savings and front court bodies, even if not long term solutions.

Eh, I think White and Simons are essentially the same player. Sure, White might be better. But the gap isn't big enough to justify making a move imo..especially since it would't be a straight up swap - we'd have to add in other assets, picks, etc. since White is a core building block piece for the Bulls.

Not worth it imo.

Simons is also an on ball-off ball type of guard. Simons is a good shooter but also a good driver, and a good passer. Neither Simons or White is very good defensively. Sure, White is better but again, not a very big gap.

I think Simons could really thrive in our system and could blossom with a change of scenery. Looking forward to seeing how he does this season for us.

[jfs1000d]

Let’s talk Tillman. Has he dealt with his Knee/s. Can he be a contributor next year. There will certainly be opportunity for him unless we see some roster change.

He is so cheap, why not? I just see his salary as a bench player as good value.


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[playa-hater]

I don't like when our team is small across the board. And Having Simons and at times with PP together will create defense and rebounding problems. But even with that said, I think Simons is definitely good enough to start on a Title contending team. His offensive numbers may/will go down with Brown and Tatum eventually, but I bet his efficiency goes up. I also would like to keep him for a while. Simons is a Legit shooting and scoring threat that can excel on and off the ball. Of course Boston will have to move the ball better to Maximize that.

[Shak_Celts]

Let’s talk Tillman. Has he dealt with his Knee/s. Can he be a contributor next year. There will certainly be opportunity for him unless we see some roster change.

He is so cheap, why not? I just see his salary as a bench player as good value.


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Want to add him to other money for space or a guy that we pluck out of nowhere.

[celtxman]

Yup. If getting under the luxury tax is a necessity then Hauser Niang and Tillman can go. 26 year old 20 ppg scorers are not easy to acquire.

I know Simons has been criticized for his defense but that tends to happen on lottery teams. I want to see what he does in an organization that prioritizes defense.

So Simons was just under 20 PPG last year but has been over it before so we can count him. He's actually, before the offseason has even started yet, one of four players who are both 20 PPG scorers and under 26 to have been traded. Desmond Bane, Jordan Poole, and Jalen Green are the others. Of the 4, only Bane seemed to be valued overly positively in his trade. Collin Sexton is another such player who seems very available. MPJ never quite got to 20 but was 18.2 last year and 19.0 one year, and he seems to be readily available at a negative valuation.

Honestly, acquiring 20 PPG scorers, even as young as 26 years old, really isn't that difficult if you pick guys like Simons who have a high salary and also stink at every other aspect of playing NBA basketball.

Look at what those other players brought in though. Easy, maybe, cheap? Rarely. I don’t know what was traded for Poole but the other two you mentioned, their teams got a bag!


Jrue is a good price IMO, but we had to get off him anyway. Many people thought we would have to pay to get him out of here. So out of all of them, we basically paid nothing and also got two seconds with it!

It was a trade that was necessary but sad. I'd like to see what Simons can do. He can flat out score. Maybe with excellent coaching he can improve at defense.

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[Asian Celtic]

Am I the only one who likes Niang on this roster? I hated him when he was on the other team as he occasionally hits some hustle plays / shots then suddenly their team is pumped up. Guy seems like a good locker room and glue guy. Not expecting him to be a vital contributor but for the contract I think he's good enough.

[Fierce1]

Am I the only one who likes Niang on this roster? I hated him when he was on the other team as he occasionally hits some hustle plays / shots then suddenly their team is pumped up. Guy seems like a good locker room and glue guy. Not expecting him to be a vital contributor but for the contract I think he's good enough.

That's why I believe Hauser is expendable now.

Trade Sam and use the money on keeping Luke and maybe Al.

[GoCeltics123]

Jake Fischer said he's heard a lot more trade buzz on Simons than Hauser recently fwiw

[chrisab123]

Should the Celtics trade for Ace Bailey?

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Remember when trading with Danny Ainge in order to get the deal done you’re going to have to be okay with “losing the trade” or getting absolutely obliterated on the deal. He doesn’t do marginal wins.

[hugepatsfan]

Trade Simons for a C. Bring Horford or Kornet back.

Let's say Tatum ever did come back for the playoffs like some of you (unrealistically, IMO) hope for...

White / Pritchard
Brown / Gonzalez
Hauser / Scheierman
Tatum / Niang
(C from Simons trade) / Horford or Kornet

I don't hate it. I don't hate it at all.If you get good development from Gonzalez/Scheierman, that's a well fitting team. TBH, you really don't even need it because you can cover those minutes with Pritchard/White lineups or Tatum playing SF and either Niang at PF or double big.

[GoCeltics123]

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“Looking to continue shedding salary, the Celtics have explored the idea of flipping Simons’ $27.7 million expiring contract, according to league sources. In such a move, they would be aiming to accomplish two organizational directives Brad Stevens emphasized after the first round of the NBA Draft on Wednesday: regaining more roster flexibility and setting up a path to retain free agents Luke Kornet and Al Horford.”

Speculation has surrounded Sam Hauser’s future because it likely wouldn’t be difficult to find a taker for his four-year, $45 million contract (which would also fit inside another team’s non-taxpayer mid-level exception), but the Celtics are said to be more focused on avenues that would allow them to hold onto Hauser, who has proven himself as a valuable rotation piece and one of the NBA’s best shooters. The team agreed to acquire Simons and Georges Niang this week, but both players are candidates to be moved before they ever play a game for Boston.

[phincsfan]

The Wolves have until 6/29 to decide on Luka Garza's contract. The C's worked him out in 21' before the draft but passed on him for Begarin. They did have AL, RWill, Kanter and Theis, so the position was pretty deep.

Garza played well in the G-League. Not the best defender, but that can be worked on. Move on from AL. Maybe Kornet accepts a friendly deal.
Neems/Kornet/Garza/Amari.

Got to move Tillman though. And don't pick up Walsh's option.

[klemen44]

Trade Houser or Niang and that shpuld ne enough for Luke and Al.

Al has earnef a lot and should not get more than veteran minimum.

Luke 5 million per year and he can start what no other team can give him.

Would be a mistake trading Simmons, only if Nrad has no plan to resign Simmons in sumer... Than yes trade him now.

[celticgreenie]

Disappointing news. I thought Simons could serve as a nice release valve for the Jays when defenses played them tight. He already had the ability to create something out of nothing when he played for the Blazers and I thought he could thrive in this less defensive attention environment.

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[Fierce1]

If Cs trade Simons just to keep Luke and Al, that's just a play-in team most likely only winning 35-40 games.

Scoring from White and JB will not be enough.

Cs end up losing 50+ points per game from the loss of JT, KP, and Jrue.

[Fierce1]

If Simons is gone then those wishing the Cs would have a lottery pick next season will get their wish.

[djFan71]

If Cs trade Simons just to keep Luke and Al, that's just a play-in team most likely only winning 35-40 games.

Scoring from White and JB will not be enough.

Cs end up losing 50+ points per game from the loss of JT, KP, and Jrue.

Yeah, that's the risk. But, it's a better team for JT to come back to fit wise. If you keep Simons and lose those guys, you get layup lines with Queta as the only line of defense. Neither option is super pretty. Offense can be generated, esp in reg season. PP and Brown will up usage, Scheiermann can hopefuly make a leap. Whoever you bring back that's cheaper doesn't necessarily have to be useless, etc.