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Post#161 » by dobrojim » Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:26 pm

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Frichuela wrote:On a different note, I hope they trade Kispert. I rather give his minutes to Bilal, Tre, Riley and George. Question is who could be interested? Orlando is gone as a potential candidate post Bane’s trade.
I hope they keep Corey and get another white guy. Half joking.

In last year's draft, i liked Dalton Knecht, Baylor Scheierman, and the PG from Marquette, who the Knicks drafted. (I feel too lazy to search).

Is Jay Huff a FA?

OKC had the law firm of Holmgren, Hartenstein, and Caruso reppin' them.

White folk (channeling my inner Petey Greene) can hoop!

Paige Bueckers, Sonia Citron, Sarah Ashley Barker, Cooper Flagg, Kon Knueppel, Liam McNeely, Danny Wolf, Kasparas Jakucionis, Egor Denim, Ryan Kalkbrenner, Maxine Raynaud, Joan Beringer(?), Vlad Goldin, Grant Peterson

If I were a GM, I would love to have a TJ McConnell on my team.

Seriously.

Last. I think Corey needs to go to the Celtics or the Lakers/Warriors/Trailblazer or the Magic.

He will up. THE KNICKS would be awesome for Kispert.


That brings up a good point (kind of). Who was the Wizards/Bullets best white American player? I'd have to go back to the Bullets with Jeff Ruland. Then either Googs or to the 70s with Grevey or Kupchak. Maybe Rex Chapman, who averaged 18 ppg in one season.


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Post#162 » by dobrojim » Fri Jun 27, 2025 6:40 pm

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payitforward wrote:We have an option on Richaun Holmes. He'll do fine.


With the last name Holmes, of course he will.



As my friends in HS 50 years ago used to say, no shite Sherlock.

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 4 

Post#163 » by nate33 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:01 pm

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Frichuela wrote:On a different note, I hope they trade Kispert. I rather give his minutes to Bilal, Tre, Riley and George. Question is who could be interested? Orlando is gone as a potential candidate post Bane’s trade.
I hope they keep Corey and get another white guy. Half joking.

In last year's draft, i liked Dalton Knecht, Baylor Scheierman, and the PG from Marquette, who the Knicks drafted. (I feel too lazy to search).

Is Jay Huff a FA?

OKC had the law firm of Holmgren, Hartenstein, and Caruso reppin' them.

White folk (channeling my inner Petey Greene) can hoop!

Paige Bueckers, Sonia Citron, Sarah Ashley Barker, Cooper Flagg, Kon Knueppel, Liam McNeely, Danny Wolf, Kasparas Jakucionis, Egor Denim, Ryan Kalkbrenner, Maxine Raynaud, Joan Beringer(?), Vlad Goldin, Grant Peterson

If I were a GM, I would love to have a TJ McConnell on my team.

Seriously.

Last. I think Corey needs to go to the Celtics or the Lakers/Warriors/Trailblazer or the Magic.

He will up. THE KNICKS would be awesome for Kispert.


That brings up a good point (kind of). Who was the Wizards/Bullets best white American player? I'd have to go back to the Bullets with Jeff Ruland. Then either Googs or to the 70s with Grevey or Kupchak. Maybe Rex Chapman, who averaged 18 ppg in one season.

Jeff Ruland to be sure.

Honestly, the next best guy since 1980 would have been Deni Avdija. :nonono:
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Post#164 » by willbcocks » Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:11 pm

Any word on undrafted Free Agents?
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Post#165 » by doclinkin » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:02 pm

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How many swing men have they signed in 2-3 years? 38? 50?

How many clowns fit in the Wizzo Tanko Clown Car?



Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The Wizards done fooled around and got their self a superstar. Maybe so. Yessir! Tre Johnson will be a better scorer than Bradley Beal.

The crazy thing is that i believe Riley has an even higher ceiling.



LOL My man, the Bipolar Bear at his best :clown:

That's the thing about "best talent". If the guy on the board is good, you don't want to miss out and be kicking yourself later that you didn't take him. In this case if you like the guys they took, maybe even better than the guys we have, then you should be happy we upgraded more than pxssed about roster duplication.

Me, I'm coming around on this draft. When I heard we had a trade with the Jazz I was like: cool, we did it, we swapped Tre for Ace. Well done. Didn't bother to watch the rest LOL. Guess not. :)

Sadly as much as I think Ace had a great chance to develop here, I think he struggles in Utah. I think Baby Ainge didn't want to be pushed around by a bad agent and had to show how tough he was, but it ends up to the detriment of the draftee and the franchise both. Ace's reluctance to join the Jazz could make Utah an inhospitable place for the kid. Tough start to your career, he better look good early or they may turn on him. Whereas here he had a ready-made role and support system. In that light, the choice to take Tre instead of moving up is going to look better and better. I think Tre looks better early and gets a jump start on his growth and career.

Plug and play. Tre already has an NBA ready skill. He's an efficient gunner with deep range and a hair trigger. He comes in to replace Poole in that same role, only as a bigger longer and more efficient record (at least comparing their college careers). You can ink him in for instant minutes, he can learn the rest on the job. Tre already showed he can hit shots, in the toughest conference in the NCAA, as the number one option, against defenses designed to deny him. He carried a 30% usage and still hit 40% from three. His role in the NBA is the same early with no adjustments: 'get ball, shoot ball'. Later he can add: pass, playmake, add strength, hit inside shots.

I wanted Ace in a similar role, as the designated shooter, figuring his reach and natural talent would puzzle it out. His added length on defense shotblocking and rebounding would ultimately help as a 2-way player, but I understood he was still going to have an adjustment period when his low-percentage shots got snuffed or doinked out of the rim. I wanted him in the Poole role of constant gunner, with other players feeding him. Tre takes the same role, but starts out better at it, at least from outside. Plus with Ace there was no vision of him as eventual playmaker. Just a more efficient gunner. Now I wonder if he ends up deeply benched over time if his talent doesn't swiftly overcome the circumstances. That's the same story with the other possible picks, compared to Tre: that they will have to add to their game before they have a true role on the court. Those who liked Fears had to project him as a shooter. Those of us who liked Maluach had to project practically an entire game other than dunking.

Tre can shoot. Even when guarded. The rest is on him to develop. And the coaching staff. And guys like Smart and KMidd and CJ. Reports say Tre is a fanatic worker, like the best shooters-- but you can't work on defense by yourself in a gym. That's why it is critical to have a squad of tough players around him, and nice to hear our rookie contract guys are all in the gym together since May 1. I called it gladiator school, meaning this crew is going to go after each other an not play nice. All the vets last year said Bub came in the gym yapping. And Key picked it up as well. Driving up the competition level. To this we add Tre and Riley, both unrepentant gunners who like to push the action and face down a defense. Sounds like serious fun to me.

As for Riley. I had him tabbed as a stealth talent. Every time I watched Jakuciunas I was more impressed with the tall skinny kid with aggressive ball skills. I wanted a Big, so he wasn't in my want list, but I think I mentioned him a couple times as a guy they might take. Others on here mentioned him. For another kid who reclassed after his Jr year, and skipped his senior year in highschool, he is precociously skilled. He should have been graduating highschool this past month, instead he is joining the pros. For a tall skinny kid he is both shifty and aggressive. Quick to see the angles. I like that he's a sneaky good playmaker too. Another guy with a 2:1 ast/to ratio. Him, Bub, Kyshawn, AJJ. You can put the ball in their hands and trust they will do something with it that makes the team better. Between him and AJJ our bench will keep teams backpedaling on defense, leaving outside shooters wide open.

We don't have a team yet. But we have some pieces. We can play fast and high effort high energy all game long. With these late growth spurt guys (Bilal, Key, Riley, Bub) you have to figure they each have a chance to thicken up and add muscle when they are no longer incinerating every calorie they take in. I liked that Kyshawn leaned up and got stronger over the course of the season. That is rare to see. Few players actually add muscle while they are busy running it off. I anticipate real growth over the summer from at least a couple of these guys. Even Tre Johnson can start to add muscle. Hard to say where that ends up. But the growth process should be fun, win and lose. I don't mind going 2 deep at every backcourt spot before we even start to address the middle. That can only help us while we tank, and give each guy a training partner to face off against in practice and the offseason.
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Post#166 » by tontoz » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:19 pm

willbcocks wrote:Any word on undrafted Free Agents?


I don't think they could even sign them now. I think they have to wait until July.
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Post#167 » by AFM » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:51 pm

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Post#169 » by AFM » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:58 pm

Yeah he's thrilled to go there which is why he told them, "if you draft my client, he's not going to report"

edit- I suppose it could have been Philly that quote is about, but based on his reaction, and the fact that it's frickin Utah, I don't think he's thrilled.
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Post#170 » by Hidden Eye » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:13 pm

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Hidden Eye wrote:

Didn't even draft a Center this draft.

SMH the Wizard organization talked to Mr.Grunfeld and consulted him who to pick after 6
LOL

Center? We don't need no stinkin' center!

There is no C in DMV.

(Our guy Alex Sarr says, "Oui Oui, je suis une PF)



This to me indicates that Sarr is going to play C which is cool but he has to put some armor on and not get knocked off the frame by matchups.

Tristan is going to get signed to long term deal ( I believe he can be a Euro Naz Reid like player)

As of right now there isn't any C's in the top lottery 2026 NBA draft.. all Gs/PFs and SFs mainly.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 4 

Post#171 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:31 pm

doclinkin wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
How many swing men have they signed in 2-3 years? 38? 50?

How many clowns fit in the Wizzo Tanko Clown Car?



Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The Wizards done fooled around and got their self a superstar. Maybe so. Yessir! Tre Johnson will be a better scorer than Bradley Beal.

The crazy thing is that i believe Riley has an even higher ceiling.



LOL My man, the Bipolar Bear at his best :clown:

That's the thing about "best talent". If the guy on the board is good, you don't want to miss out and be kicking yourself later that you didn't take him. In this case if you like the guys they took, maybe even better than the guys we have, then you should be happy we upgraded more than pxssed about roster duplication.

Me, I'm coming around on this draft. When I heard we had a trade with the Jazz I was like: cool, we did it, we swapped Tre for Ace. Well done. Didn't bother to watch the rest LOL. Guess not. :)

Sadly as much as I think Ace had a great chance to develop here, I think he struggles in Utah. I think Baby Ainge didn't want to be pushed around by a bad agent and had to show how tough he was, but it ends up to the detriment of the draftee and the franchise both. Ace's reluctance to join the Jazz could make Utah an inhospitable place for the kid. Tough start to your career, he better look good early or they may turn on him. Whereas here he had a ready-made role and support system. In that light, the choice to take Tre instead of moving up is going to look better and better. I think Tre looks better early and gets a jump start on his growth and career.

Plug and play. Tre already has an NBA ready skill. He's an efficient gunner with deep range and a hair trigger. He comes in to replace Poole in that same role, only as a bigger longer and more efficient record (at least comparing their college careers). You can ink him in for instant minutes, he can learn the rest on the job. Tre already showed he can hit shots, in the toughest conference in the NCAA, as the number one option, against defenses designed to deny him. He carried a 30% usage and still hit 40% from three. His role in the NBA is the same early with no adjustments: 'get ball, shoot ball'. Later he can add: pass, playmake, add strength, hit inside shots.

I wanted Ace in a similar role, as the designated shooter, figuring his reach and natural talent would puzzle it out. His added length on defense shotblocking and rebounding would ultimately help as a 2-way player, but I understood he was still going to have an adjustment period when his low-percentage shots got snuffed or doinked out of the rim. I wanted him in the Poole role of constant gunner, with other players feeding him. Tre takes the same role, but starts out better at it, at least from outside. Plus with Ace there was no vision of him as eventual playmaker. Just a more efficient gunner. Now I wonder if he ends up deeply benched over time if his talent doesn't swiftly overcome the circumstances. That's the same story with the other possible picks, compared to Tre: that they will have to add to their game before they have a true role on the court. Those who liked Fears had to project him as a shooter. Those of us who liked Maluach had to project practically an entire game other than dunking.

Tre can shoot. Even when guarded. The rest is on him to develop. And the coaching staff. And guys like Smart and KMidd and CJ. Reports say Tre is a fanatic worker, like the best shooters-- but you can't work on defense by yourself in a gym. That's why it is critical to have a squad of tough players around him, and nice to hear our rookie contract guys are all in the gym together since May 1. I called it gladiator school, meaning this crew is going to go after each other an not play nice. All the vets last year said Bub came in the gym yapping. And Key picked it up as well. Driving up the competition level. To this we add Tre and Riley, both unrepentant gunners who like to push the action and face down a defense. Sounds like serious fun to me.

As for Riley. I had him tabbed as a stealth talent. Every time I watched Jakuciunas I was more impressed with the tall skinny kid with aggressive ball skills. I wanted a Big, so he wasn't in my want list, but I think I mentioned him a couple times as a guy they might take. Others on here mentioned him. For another kid who reclassed after his Jr year, and skipped his senior year in highschool, he is precociously skilled. He should have been graduating highschool this past month, instead he is joining the pros. For a tall skinny kid he is both shifty and aggressive. Quick to see the angles. I like that he's a sneaky good playmaker too. Another guy with a 2:1 ast/to ratio. Him, Bub, Kyshawn, AJJ. You can put the ball in their hands and trust they will do something with it that makes the team better. Between him and AJJ our bench will keep teams backpedaling on defense, leaving outside shooters wide open.

We don't have a team yet. But we have some pieces. We can play fast and high effort high energy all game long. With these late growth spurt guys (Bilal, Key, Riley, Bub) you have to figure they each have a chance to thicken up and add muscle when they are no longer incinerating every calorie they take in. I liked that Kyshawn leaned up and got stronger over the course of the season. That is rare to see. Few players actually add muscle while they are busy running it off. I anticipate real growth over the summer from at least a couple of these guys. Even Tre Johnson can start to add muscle. Hard to say where that ends up. But the growth process should be fun, win and lose. I don't mind going 2 deep at every backcourt spot before we even start to address the middle. That can only help us while we tank, and give each guy a training partner to face off against in practice and the offseason.


About the flight of ideas ...


It's great that "I can go there" and be taking the meds right!!!

I was asking my sister on the phone if she thought I sounded "well."" (Check)
My son (25) and I have been talking/texting practically daily. (Check)
Ditto with my Marine Corps son, and he's usually quiet. (Check)

I guess I'm just freaking happier than normal ... and the Wizards didn't eff it up.

(This was all in response to the Bipolar Bear stuff. BTW, whoever wrote the script and directed Silver Linings Playbook had to know first hand).

Next post, I will try to tackle DOCTOR LINCOLN's dissertation ...
Bye bye Beal.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 4 

Post#172 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:37 pm

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LOL My man, the Bipolar Bear at his best :clown:

That's the thing about "best talent". If the guy on the board is good, you don't want to miss out and be kicking yourself later that you didn't take him. In this case if you like the guys they took, maybe even better than the guys we have, then you should be happy we upgraded more than pxssed about roster duplication.

Me, I'm coming around on this draft. When I heard we had a trade with the Jazz I was like: cool, we did it, we swapped Tre for Ace. Well done. Didn't bother to watch the rest LOL. Guess not. :)

Sadly as much as I think Ace had a great chance to develop here, I think he struggles in Utah. I think Baby Ainge didn't want to be pushed around by a bad agent and had to show how tough he was, but it ends up to the detrim
Ooent of the draftee and the franchise both. Ace's reluctance to join the Jazz could make Utah an inhospitable place for the kid. Tough start to your career, he bette
r look good early or they may turn on him. Whereas here he had a ready-made role and support system. In that light, the choice to take Tre instead of moving up is going to look better and better. I think Tre looks better early and gets a jump start on his growth and career.

Plug and play. Tre already has an NBA ready skill. He's an efficient gunner with deep range and a hair trigger. He comes in to replace Poole in that same role, only as a bigger longer and more efficient record (at least comparing their college careers). You can ink him in for instant minutes, he can learn the rest on the job. Tre already showed he can hit shots, in the toughest conference in the NCAA, as the number one option, against defenses designed to deny him. He carried a 30% usage and still hit 40% from three. His role in the NBA is the same early with no adjustments: 'get ball, shoot ball'. Later he canoP(((pppp9a9(p8pqp add: pass, playmake, add strength, hit inside shots.

I wanted Ace in a similar role, as the designated shooter, figuring his reach and natural talent would puzzle it out. His added length on defense shotblocking and rebounding would ultimately help as a 2-way player, but I understood he was still going to have an adjustment period when his low-percentage shots got snuffed or doinked out of the rim. I wanted him in the Poole role of constant gunner, with other players feeding him. Tre takes the same role, but starts out better at it, at least from outside. Plus with Ace there was no vision of him as eventual playmaker. Just a more efficient gunner. Now I wonder if he ends up deeply benched over time if his talent doesn't swiftly overcome the circumstances. That's the same story with the other possible picks, compared to Tre: that they will have to add to their game before they have a true role on the court. Those who liked Fears had to project him as a shooter. Those of us who liked Maluach had to project practically an entire game other than dunking.

Tre can shoot. Even when guarded. The rest is on him to develop. And the coaching staff. And guys like Smart and KMidd and CJ. Reports say Tre is a fanatic worker, like the best shooters-- but you can't work on defense by yourself in a gym. That's why it is critical to have a squad of tough players around him, and nice to hear our rookie contract guys are all in the gym together since May 1. I called it gladiator school, meaning this crew is going to go after each other an not play nice. All the vets last year said Bub came in the gym yapping. And Key picked it up as well. Driving up the competition level. To this we add Tre and Riley, both unrepentant gunners who like to push the action and face down a defense. Sounds like serious fun to me.

As for Riley. I had him tabbed as a stealth talent. Every time I w9p9qp9appqqàap9p2atched Jakuciunas I was more impressed with the tall skinny kid with aggressive ball skills. I wanted a Big, so he wasn't in my want list, but I think I mentioned him a couple times as a guy they might take. Others on here mentioned him. For another kid who reclassed after his Jr year, and skipped his senior year in highschool, he is precociously skilled. He should have been graduating highschool this past month, instead he is joining the pros. For a tall skinny kid he is both shifty and aggressive. Quick to see the angles. I like that he's a sneaky good playmaker too. Another guy with a 2:1 ast/to ratio. Him, Bub, Kyshawn, AJJ. You can put the ball in their hands and trust they will do something with it that makes the team better. Between him and AJJ our bench will keep teams backpedaling on defense, leaving outside shooters wide open.

We don't have a team yet. But we have some pieces. We can play fast and high effort high energy all game long. With these late growth spurt guys (Bilal, Key, Riley, Bub) you have to figure they each have a chance to thicken up and add muscle when they are no longer incinerating every calorie they take in. I liked that Kyshawn leaned up and got stronger over the course of the season. That is rare to see. Few players actually add muscle while they are busy running it off. I anticipate real growth over the summer from at least a couple of these guys. Even Tre Johnson can start to add muscle. Hard to say where that ends up. But the growth process should be fun, win and lose. I don't mind going 2 deep at every backcourt spot before we even start to address the middle. That can only help us while we tank, and give each guy a training partner to face off against in practice and the offseason.


Derik Queen is bound to lean up and add muscle. By the time he gets those braces off, he will be jacked and on his revenge tour.

Ace Bailey might have had a profane word or two with his agent. He experienced an untenable outcome. It's too bad for him. Shabazz Muhammad was drafted by the Jazz, right? (Or maybe it was the Kings). Like you, doclinkin, I think Ace will have a much less supportive environment playing for Nepo Ainge. On the subject of nepotism ...

Mike Thibault and his son ran the Mystics aground. They bounced back un a big way thanks to the horrible Chicago GM that gave them Sonia Citron and picks for Ariel Atkins. Jeff Pagliocca makes Ernest Grunfeld look like a brain surgeon.

Back to Ace: I can't see him being anything but disgruntled within 2-3 years.

As for the gladiators:

That's why it is critical to have a squad of tough players around him, and nice to hear our rookie contract guys are all in the gym together since May 1. I called it gladiator school, meaning this crew is going to go after each other an not play nice. All the vets last year said Bub came in the gym yapping. And Key picked it up as well. Driving up the competition level. To this we add Tre and Riley, both unrepentant gunners who like to push the action and face down a defense. Sounds like serious fun to me.


I see. Sounds like Navy SEAL training.

Dudes can not get lost in their feelings, or they will end up tapping out. Okay.

I still say excellence will not be rewarded when the intention is to tank.
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Post#173 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:55 pm

There's a funny if mean spirited post over on the general board on the "Ace Bailey...." thread that I think captures why part of me feels a hint of acceptance and maybe a sense of dodged bullet with the pick and it' articulates this argument....

".....All world talent and nice looking jumper and skill set. Even Stevie Wonder can see that part.

On the flip side maybe one of the dumbest prospects I’ve ever seen.

On the court his style of play is a morons game and he’s proud of it. Plays with a foolish arrogance that’s detrimental to team success and makes life harder on himself and his team. Doesn’t use his talents to make the game easier for anyone. But his talent and skill set is so tantalizing Utah said we’re not letting him get past us.

Off the courts he’s probably an even bigger idiot. Trying to force his way to certain teams not working out and doing bad in interviews when millions of dollars are at stake. Had he crushed this portion of the draft and if he were smart about it he would be in a much better situation in Philly than in Utah.

Insert every imaginable excuse for him sucking last year and everything that’s transpired since......"

On the one hand, I view Bailey as a mega talent that us being the wiz, missed out on because we decided to fail at tanking just as Utah got their Ph.D. in tanking, to such a horrible extent that we blew it with a miracle shot you know no wizard ever in any universe would hit in an actual playoff game for all the marbles, but to kill draft slotting not he last second of the season? Sure, he'll make that" kind of moment. I view him as the 2nd most talented prospect in the class, just as the recruiting wars did just about uniformly.

Otoh, this take from the main board is something I can't but feel is actually write. We have that interview/background piece, we have the handing over his management to a clown show of vile cretins and morons, we have the way he played, which int he description above, at least partially sounds right (I practice ----- shots is the argument of a true idiot, sure, a trick in your golf bag you work on, on the side okay, but prioritize the worst percentage shots imaginable? No, definitely no)....

So the other part of me is deeply alarmed at what is between his ears. He does indeed sound like a happy go lucky idiot. Otoh, he had. 3.0 GPA, so wtf is going on here? I have no idea....

But going into the season, I'm not in denial about this. There is no stink on Johnson beyond the basic critiques of the past year in general. No finishing game, no defense, occasionally gives half efforts and worse for "reasons", but apparently he's also a hard worker, first in last out type it seems, and there is no "dumb as hell" stink to him that there is to Bailey. To be fair to Bailey, he did have that 3.0 GPA in High School which isn't nothing, it does require work, and some degree of commitment.

But man, everything about his offseason is horrible, I had hoped to take advantage of it, and absolutely would have drafted him ahead of Tre, but there's no question to me at this point that his floor is much lower than Tre's. There's no cure for this degree of poor judgment if indeed it is a character flaw of the guy. There is far too little information to believe fundamentally he's an idiot with terrible judgment right now, but there sure as hell is plenty of circumstantial evidence, that the best case scenario is that his judgment SUCKS, with a capital S.
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Post#174 » by AFM » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:42 am

I agree with all of that Consig except I don't think he's more talented than Tre at all. He's a scorer but shoots 69% from the line?

He also measured in at 6'7 after being listed at 6'10 all year. So he'll be listed at 6'8, not 6'10.

I said the same over at the general board, but exactly HOW is he a better prospect than Tre? Oh I know. Because he LOOKS like one--ie theres more footage of him dunking on people.

His basketball IQ is significantly lower. He's not a great shooter. He's awful from the line. He's got a poor handle.

Tre Johnson is the hardest worker in the draft class. Ace Bailey when asked what his weaknesses are? "I don't got any weaknesses, big dawg." Meanwhile Tre was humbled by the footage of him slacking on D that Dawkins showed him. Said it inspired him. But Ace is the better prospect?

I don't get it. At all.


Like I said. He reminds me of so many busts. Shabazz Muhummad. We all repeat he's some great prospect, mostly because we've heard it from others. No way we're all wrong, right?

He seems the most likely bust I've seen in a long, long time.
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Post#175 » by AFM » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:03 am

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All this and not factoring in the massive difference in work ethic and attitude.

I don't get it.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 4 

Post#176 » by dcPress » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:36 am

I dunno but I’m glad we got Tre.

Not sure what to make of Riley. Maybe in 3 years when we’re getting good he’ll be getting good too.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 4 

Post#177 » by WallToWall » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:05 am

Belmont forward Jonathan Pierre has been signed to an Exhibit 10 contract.
I like this pickup. I think he could be like Champagne.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 4 

Post#178 » by gambitx777 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:22 am

So as easy as it was to move up in the draft I'm surprised we didn't try? I wonder if we didn't like any of those second round bigs and we took the guy we wanted?

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 4 

Post#179 » by nate33 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:23 am

I wonder if Bailey is the type of guy who won’t get his sh*t together until he is on his second contract. Kinda like Zach Randolph or Andrew Wiggins.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 4 

Post#180 » by nate33 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:27 am

gambitx777 wrote:So as easy as it was to move up in the draft I'm surprised we didn't try? I wonder if we didn't like any of those second round bigs and we took the guy we wanted?

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It wasn’t easy at all to move up in the draft. Teams were extracting massive compensation to trade down a few spots.

Atlanta got an unprotected FRP from New Orleans to drop from 13 to 22. We got 3 SRPs to drop from 18 to 21.

Charlotte was surely asking a massive price from us to move up from 6 to 4. We ultimately declined.

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