Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley

___Rand___ · Post #21 » by **___Rand___** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:27 am

I mean we all knew their flaws when we traded for them. Was this always their plan, to trade these 2 because that's all they could get for OG? I thought it was said IQ was a great fit besides Scottie, despite his flaws?

I thought we were pivoting away from only wanting 2-way players or defenders to getting offensive skillset and live with their defensive flaws?

By the way, Darko isn't exactly a defensive savant. The kind of players we're drafting aren't exactly like his kind of personnel. Are these moves foreshadowing a shift away from Darko? Is this Darko's last season?

kalel123 · Post #22 » by **kalel123** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:30 am

To me, Quickley is the only reliable shooter on this team. Similar to Poeltl, you gonna have to come up with an actual viable replacement before you trade him away.

Boogie! · Post #23 » by **Boogie!** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:33 am

ItsDanger wrote:Something tells me Bobby didn't like the OG return.

People do realize that bobby has been the gm for years right? He’s the guy making these trades not masai…

Boogie! · Post #24 » by **Boogie!** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:34 am

kalel123 wrote:To me, Quickley is the only reliable shooter on this team. Similar to Poeltl, you gonna have to come up with an actual viable replacement before you trade him away.

Not only that he shoots 3s off the dribble and makes tough shots… you can’t replace that intangible aspect of shooting. Guys like dick and battle are merely catch and shoot guys.

WWSRD · Post #25 » by **WWSRD** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:41 am

Boogie! wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Something tells me Bobby didn't like the OG return.

People do realize that bobby has been the gm for years right? He’s the guy making these trades not masai…

You don’t know that.

LoveMyRaps · Post #26 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:43 am

TimeForChange wrote:Move IQ to the 2 and trade RJ for a PG.

This should not be that difficult.

I’m on board with this.

Garland should be the target.

Boogie! · Post #27 » by **Boogie!** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:44 am

WWSRD wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Something tells me Bobby didn't like the OG return.

People do realize that bobby has been the gm for years right? He’s the guy making these trades not masai…

You don’t know that.

I don’t know that bobby is the gm and the gm is the responsible for making trades? Bobby is the one that made the kawhi trade

Boogie! · Post #28 » by **Boogie!** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:44 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:Move IQ to the 2 and trade RJ for a PG.

This should not be that difficult.

I’m on board with this.

Garland should be the target.

So we’re making ourselves more undersized?

tdotrep2 · Post #29 » by **tdotrep2** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:44 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:Move IQ to the 2 and trade RJ for a PG.

This should not be that difficult.

I’m on board with this.

Garland should be the target.

we need defense. You're just asking scottie to run around for 30+ minutes defending guards

RaptorPride · Post #30 » by **RaptorPride** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:44 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
RaptorPride wrote:Yes I think we can do much better than IQ and I'm not a fan of his contract.

His contract gets better and will be well worth it by year 3 onwards

It gets better but I don't think its worth it for a 6th man typa guy. And I don't see him as a starting PG that's gonna lead us anywhere.

RaptorPride · Post #31 » by **RaptorPride** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:45 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
RaptorPride wrote:Yes I think we can do much better than IQ and I'm not a fan of his contract.

Don’t know why people are so low on IQ.
He actually played pretty well after returning from a major injury.

Give him a full season before giving up on him.

I think he’ll excel as that 3rd guy. Ingram and Scottie will create a lot of wide open spot up opportunities for him.

I rather Barnes start at PG than him.

Shakril · Post #32 » by **Shakril** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:49 am

Dalek wrote:The message I heard from Fisher was that they will continue to add talent, so at least there is that. It could have been a case where we are shedding salary and attaching draft assets to do it.

Salaries:
Barrett $27.7
IQ $32.5

Option 1: Sabonis + Monk
Option 2: Ja Morant + KCP
Option 3: Ayton+Jerami Grant (Toronto would need to add Agbaji in for matching purposes)

all 3 are terrible

Godaddycurse · Post #33 » by **Godaddycurse** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:52 am

RaptorPride wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
RaptorPride wrote:Yes I think we can do much better than IQ and I'm not a fan of his contract.

His contract gets better and will be well worth it by year 3 onwards

It gets better but I don't think its worth it for a 6th man typa guy. And I don't see him as a starting PG that's gonna lead us anywhere.

he averaged 20/7/5 per 36 on above avg efficiency. good impact stats last year offensively. He's fine as a starting PG. Not a star but a fine starter

DemHeavyHands · Post #34 » by **DemHeavyHands** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:56 am

Bobby about to be unleashed

He’s about to go crazy with the trades now that he’s the final decision maker

Scase · Post #35 » by **Scase** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:59 am

Boogie! wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Something tells me Bobby didn't like the OG return.

People do realize that bobby has been the gm for years right? He’s the guy making these trades not masai…

Nah only the good moves were Masai, all the bad ones were Bobby.

Scase · Post #36 » by **Scase** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:01 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
RaptorPride wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
His contract gets better and will be well worth it by year 3 onwards

It gets better but I don't think its worth it for a 6th man typa guy. And I don't see him as a starting PG that's gonna lead us anywhere.

he averaged 20/7/5 per 36 on above avg efficiency. good impact stats last year offensively. He's fine as a starting PG. Not a star but a fine starter

Per 100 is usually a more "respected" projection stat, per36 is not a great indicator. But overall his defence has been pretty crappy, he's overpaid until he proves otherwise.

Godaddycurse · Post #37 » by **Godaddycurse** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:02 am

Scase wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
RaptorPride wrote:It gets better but I don't think its worth it for a 6th man typa guy. And I don't see him as a starting PG that's gonna lead us anywhere.

he averaged 20/7/5 per 36 on above avg efficiency. good impact stats last year offensively. He's fine as a starting PG. Not a star but a fine starter

Per 100 is usually a more "respected" projection stat, per36 is not a great indicator. But overall his defence has been pretty crappy, he's overpaid until he proves otherwise.

per 36 is fine for starters imo. its not great for bench players obviously. we held down IQ's minutes last year in our half ass attempt to tank

Tor_Raps · Post #38 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:03 am

Scase wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Something tells me Bobby didn't like the OG return.

People do realize that bobby has been the gm for years right? He’s the guy making these trades not masai…

Nah only the good moves were Masai, all the bad ones were Bobby.

We'll soon find out based on the moves what Bobby is really made of because hes gotten very little credit thus far in his career.

kalel123 · Post #39 » by **kalel123** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:03 am

TimeForChange wrote:Move IQ to the 2 and trade RJ for a PG.

This should not be that difficult.

Or just trade RJ for a big.

tanuki1031 · Post #40 » by **tanuki1031** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:06 am

I would do IQ for Jrue straight up.

Jrue will love mentoring Shead and Martin, and use the Celtics and Bucks as teaching fodder.