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Shock Defeat wrote:Kobe forced himself out of Charlotte. Curry didn't want to play for GS he wanted NY. Steve Francis didnt' want Vancouver. Many instances of players trying to manipulate themselves towards a specific team or avoiding teams
Shock Defeat wrote:Kobe forced himself out of Charlotte. Curry didn't want to play for GS he wanted NY. Steve Francis didnt' want Vancouver. Many instances of players trying to manipulate themselves towards a specific team or avoiding teams
AFM wrote:Very funny if he pulls a Steve Francis. He ain't the prospect Francis was either. His career never panned out, but god damn was Stevie talented.
AFM wrote:I agree with all of that Consig except I don't think he's more talented than Tre at all. He's a scorer but shoots 69% from the line?
He also measured in at 6'7 after being listed at 6'10 all year. So he'll be listed at 6'8, not 6'10.
I said the same over at the general board, but exactly HOW is he a better prospect than Tre? Oh I know. Because he LOOKS like one--ie theres more footage of him dunking on people.
His basketball IQ is significantly lower. He's not a great shooter. He's awful from the line. He's got a poor handle.
Tre Johnson is the hardest worker in the draft class. Ace Bailey when asked what his weaknesses are? "I don't got any weaknesses, big dawg." Meanwhile Tre was humbled by the footage of him slacking on D that Dawkins showed him. Said it inspired him. But Ace is the better prospect?
I don't get it. At all.
Like I said. He reminds me of so many busts. Shabazz Muhummad. We all repeat he's some great prospect, mostly because we've heard it from others. No way we're all wrong, right?
He seems the most likely bust I've seen in a long, long time.
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All this and not factoring in the massive difference in work ethic and attitude.
I don't get it.
Wallace_Wallace wrote:Just go undrafted if he got the guts, that way he can choose which team he wants to play for. Austin Reeves went that route.
Memories wrote:AFM wrote:Very funny if he pulls a Steve Francis. He ain't the prospect Francis was either. His career never panned out, but god damn was Stevie talented.
Injuries killed Francis’s career though. Certainly not due to lack of talent, IQ or work ethic. His first 4-5 years was a great player.
Wallace_Wallace wrote:Just go undrafted if he got the guts, that way he can choose which team he wants to play for. Austin Reeves went that route.
heatwillbeback wrote:I hope Bailey gets his ass handed to him.
He disrespected the process. Disrespected the teams. Wanted to dictate where he went as a player who has done nothing to earn that. Pouted his way through the draft.
Don’t trade him. Fine him every day he fails to report (when it’s mandatory to do so) until he reports. Lay the fn hammer Ainge.
MalonesElbows wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:If he's using the only leverage he has to avoid going to Utah I can't fault him. If he asked them to not draft him and they did anyway and he holds out it's their fault. They could have traded the pick or chosen a different player. Elway, Eli publicly pulled this in the NFL. Numerous players have quietly did this in the NBA. I imagine it only got public because he let his wishes be known and salty organizations decided to smear him in the media instead of working with him behind the scenes. Now Utah has even less leverage should he refuse to report and allowing him to get away with it will result in a pissing contest. Ace would have to sit out or play overseas and re-enter the draft next year to follow through on his threats. This could get interesting
If he doesn't want to follow the rules, he shouldn't have entered the draft. He could have proved himself in the G league or overseas for a year and then signed with anyone he wants.
Wallace_Wallace wrote:Just go undrafted if he got the guts, that way he can choose which team he wants to play for. Austin Reeves went that route.
UcanUwill wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:I hope Bailey gets his ass handed to him.
He disrespected the process. Disrespected the teams. Wanted to dictate where he went as a player who has done nothing to earn that. Pouted his way through the draft.
Don’t trade him. Fine him every day he fails to report (when it’s mandatory to do so) until he reports. Lay the fn hammer Ainge.
He is probably not signing with them, so no fines. But Ainge aint soft, he could just hold this kids rights than admit defeat. I hate the fact players cant decide where to play, but it is private league with such rules, so dont want to play in the nba... fine, good luck. Pretty telling that the kid is [emoji[emoji[emoji6
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