What happens to Beal?

[jredsaz]

15% of the cap is about $23.2m. Beal stretch waived would be $22.16m. Little and Liddell are already stretch waived on the books for $3.81m combined.

Okay can the Suns…

1.) buy him out for $2-3m less than his remaining salary to get under the 15% stretch stipulation? The incentive for Beal is that he’d be a FA and likely make it up with a new team

Don’t know the exact number (sorry, cooking dinner for the kids, let me get to a computer later and run it), but remember that buyouts are spread throughout all remaining years, and with the raise year over year, etc, so the buyout would have to be enough to satisfy those provisions.

2.) waive him, keep his cap hit for next season then stretch his last year of his already waived cap hit

Yup. The new CBA allows you to just waive a guy, and elect at ANY stretch window if you would like to start stretching the remainder from that year on. Once stretched, you can’t unstretch, though.

Here is a question. Can the Suns agree to a buyout, take $15M off this years number, then stretch the fully guaranteed portion of next seasons salary?

For example:
25/26 $38.7M
26/27 $19M
27/28 $19M
28/29 $19M

Not saying they should do this but just want to see how creative they can get

[JimmyPlopper]

Khris Middleton and Marcus Smart
for
Bradley Beal and Nick Richards

this works and makes some sense on both sides.

[jredsaz]

Khris Middleton and Marcus Smart
for
Bradley Beal and Nick Richards

this works and makes some sense on both sides.

Wizards are set up to have huge cap space next summer. They aren’t giving that up for Brad Beal back. If they couldn’t have moved Pool then I think it’s a different situation

[LarsV8]

Suns can buy him out at current contract less MLE.

Rockets offer to sign him for MLE, we need a SG.

[basketballwacko2]

I don't see anyone taking beal's contract. This might kick start that who's the worst contract in the NBA thread.

[JimmyPlopper]

I don't see anyone taking beal's contract. This might kick start that who's the worst contract in the NBA thread.

Sixers would take him in a heartbeat for Paul George

[basketballwacko2]

I don't see anyone taking beal's contract. This might kick start that who's the worst contract in the NBA thread.

Sixers would take him in a heartbeat for Paul George

That's possible George is older and has an additional year on his contract. Would Beal waive his NTC to allow that to happen? How do Sixer fans feel about it?

[Scoot McGroot]

Okay can the Suns…

1.) buy him out for $2-3m less than his remaining salary to get under the 15% stretch stipulation? The incentive for Beal is that he’d be a FA and likely make it up with a new team

Don’t know the exact number (sorry, cooking dinner for the kids, let me get to a computer later and run it), but remember that buyouts are spread throughout all remaining years, and with the raise year over year, etc, so the buyout would have to be enough to satisfy those provisions.

2.) waive him, keep his cap hit for next season then stretch his last year of his already waived cap hit

Yup. The new CBA allows you to just waive a guy, and elect at ANY stretch window if you would like to start stretching the remainder from that year on. Once stretched, you can’t unstretch, though.

Here is a question. Can the Suns agree to a buyout, take $15M off this years number, then stretch the fully guaranteed portion of next seasons salary?

For example:
25/26 $38.7M
26/27 $19M
27/28 $19M
28/29 $19M

Not saying they should do this but just want to see how creative they can get

No. Any buyouts are applied over the remainder of the contract.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6457671/2025/06/28/nba-offseason-themes-pacers-nuggets-bradley-beal-suns/

Katz did the math for me. Beal would have to give up at least $13.8m total (which would lower both of his remaining years) to get his contract to a small enough size to be stretch waived this offseason.

[Scoot McGroot]

I don't see anyone taking beal's contract. This might kick start that who's the worst contract in the NBA thread.

Sixers would take him in a heartbeat for Paul George

Why would Beal? Philly has Maxey and McCain, and just drafted Edgecomb…

[mcfly1204]

I don't see anyone taking beal's contract. This might kick start that who's the worst contract in the NBA thread.

Sixers would take him in a heartbeat for Paul George

Why would Beal? Philly has Maxey and McCain, and just drafted Edgecomb…

More potential PT than playing next to Booker and Green?

[Scoot McGroot]

Sixers would take him in a heartbeat for Paul George

Why would Beal? Philly has Maxey and McCain, and just drafted Edgecomb…

More potential PT than playing next to Booker and Green?

I think he’d get the same, or less time in Philly, no? I mean, Phoenix is Booker, Green, and Allen, while Philly is Maxey, Edgecomb, and McCain.

[mcfly1204]

Why would Beal? Philly has Maxey and McCain, and just drafted Edgecomb…

More potential PT than playing next to Booker and Green?

I think he’d get the same, or less time in Philly, no? I mean, Phoenix is Booker, Green, and Allen, while Philly is Maxey, Edgecomb, and McCain.

I struggle to see any minutes at the 2 really being available in Phoenix with Booker, Green, and Allen. A lot would probably depend on if Phili thinks they can actually be competitive next season.

[Fo-Real]

Khris Middleton and Marcus Smart
for
Bradley Beal and Nick Richards

this works and makes some sense on both sides.

Why would Washington do this?

[DirtyDez]

Don’t know the exact number (sorry, cooking dinner for the kids, let me get to a computer later and run it), but remember that buyouts are spread throughout all remaining years, and with the raise year over year, etc, so the buyout would have to be enough to satisfy those provisions.



Yup. The new CBA allows you to just waive a guy, and elect at ANY stretch window if you would like to start stretching the remainder from that year on. Once stretched, you can’t unstretch, though.

Here is a question. Can the Suns agree to a buyout, take $15M off this years number, then stretch the fully guaranteed portion of next seasons salary?

For example:
25/26 $38.7M
26/27 $19M
27/28 $19M
28/29 $19M

Not saying they should do this but just want to see how creative they can get

No. Any buyouts are applied over the remainder of the contract.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6457671/2025/06/28/nba-offseason-themes-pacers-nuggets-bradley-beal-suns/

Katz did the math for me. Beal would have to give up at least $13.8m total (which would lower both of his remaining years) to get his contract to a small enough size to be stretch waived this offseason.

Given what we know about Beal and Bartelstein it’s hard to imagine them taking a pay cut and giving up the NTC even though he’d recoup that money at his next stop(s). I think they’d rather force the Suns to waive him, then stretch it a year from now.

[nykballa2k4]

Why would Beal? Philly has Maxey and McCain, and just drafted Edgecomb…

More potential PT than playing next to Booker and Green?

I think he’d get the same, or less time in Philly, no? I mean, Phoenix is Booker, Green, and Allen, while Philly is Maxey, Edgecomb, and McCain.

Philly guys, I feel, have more positional flexibility. Maxey can probably guard 1-3, offensively play the 1, McCain is sort of a small 2, but can slot at the 1. Edgecomb can probably defend 1-3, be slotted at times at the 3 (think Sprewell on the Knicks).

Of course the biggest reason for Philly is getting out of the PG contract.

I can see a deal out there (needs a 3rd party) where MPJ and Nnaji are incoming pieces for PHX, 3rd team needs to absorb 10M whether it is Watson and Saric from Denver or (more likely) Richards, Martin (who would have positive value).
Suns would have
Williams/Maluach
MPJ/Nnaji
Brooks/Martin (or Watson)
Booker/Allen
Green/O'Neal(I know, not a point guard).

Still wind up shopping Green for a true point guard, but at least this moves one brick out of the way towards a balanced roster.
Nuggets get a more reliable scoring option, true 3rd option on offense.
Jokic/Holmes/Jordan
Gordon/TBD(Oshogo?)
Braun/Strawther
Beal/Dunn
Murray/TBD
Still about 8M under 2nd apron to add depth.

[jredsaz]

I don't see anyone taking beal's contract. This might kick start that who's the worst contract in the NBA thread.

Sixers would take him in a heartbeat for Paul George

Why would Beal? Philly has Maxey and McCain, and just drafted Edgecomb…

Doesn’t make sense for either team. After the draft, Sixers aren’t interested at all.

[Scoot McGroot]

More potential PT than playing next to Booker and Green?

I think he’d get the same, or less time in Philly, no? I mean, Phoenix is Booker, Green, and Allen, while Philly is Maxey, Edgecomb, and McCain.

Of course the biggest reason for Philly is getting out of the PG contract.
.

They’re not getting out of it here, though? They’re shifting it to Beal? Which, alebeit, is a year shorter, but adds a no trade clause to deal with, whereas PG has had better impact recently, and would be much more usable in terms of trades to better round out the roster as he doesn’t have a no trade clause?

[Lucky Once]

Khris Middleton and Marcus Smart
for
Bradley Beal and Nick Richards

this works and makes some sense on both sides.

What picks does Washington receive for the pleasure of taking on $50m+ in salary for 2026-7?

[jredsaz]

Khris Middleton and Marcus Smart
for
Bradley Beal and Nick Richards

this works and makes some sense on both sides.

What picks does Washington receive for the pleasure of taking on $50m+ in salary for 2026-7?

Agree full heartedly. They got off Pool for 26/27 (somehow) and now have a crazy cap sheet. Beal is the last thing the Wiz want.

Joe Dumars would be receiving a call from my team right now.

[nykballa2k4]

I think he’d get the same, or less time in Philly, no? I mean, Phoenix is Booker, Green, and Allen, while Philly is Maxey, Edgecomb, and McCain.

Of course the biggest reason for Philly is getting out of the PG contract.
.

They’re not getting out of it here, though? They’re shifting it to Beal? Which, alebeit, is a year shorter, but adds a no trade clause to deal with, whereas PG has had better impact recently, and would be much more usable in terms of trades to better round out the roster as he doesn’t have a no trade clause?

I concede both of those main points (PG you can trade at will, PG > Beal at present).
However that one less year, to me, does matter.
Beal being an expiring contract next year might MIGHT open up the door for a trade/waived situation. Depending on how they handle Grimes and other FA decisions, having 50M opening up could be useful.

OR as you are saying, PG represents a 50M tradable asset for Giannis or whoever comes onto the block.

It just would not surprise me either way.