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2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1181 » by 31to6 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:39 pm

The Cs might go the cheap route at center, because I’ve seen Luke do fine in that role, and if the rest of the team is good enough it’s like being the drummer for the Beatles (yes I said it)

But I wouldn’t be shocked if Brad takes a big swing this summer to find a big $ longer term 5 to put next to Tatum.

JB for Giannis is a pipe dream
JB for Allen plus Murphy I kind of dig
Simons and five 1sts for JJJ is my dream, but if it took White instead? I’m still in
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I used to like Bam, but now think he’s dirty and not what I thought he was going to be
Any other BIGS that would take big swings we like?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1182 » by Fierce1 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:40 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:
BillessuR6 wrote:In our situation the only sensible thing is to get out of tax completely.

We are not going to extend Simons, so he should be traded. With two max contracts and White we cannot afford another guy making 25-30 mio, which Simons will command.

So, who has cap space? Brooklyn and probably Detroit. More realistic is a multi team trade with smaller contracts going to third teams into TPEs...

I doubt we get anything noteworthy back, probably a couple of 2nd rounders...

I just hope we do not give too much to Kornet who is a decent player but in this situation not really needed...

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I disagree they can’t afford another guy making 25-30m. Maybe that’s a bit high but 20-25m works. I think they’d current payroll structure for the most part is actually very sustainable:

Tatum
Brown
White
Simons
Hauser
Pritchard
Rookie scale/minimum guys

The problem is there’s no big man. Bad balance. Have to move one of those guys for a starting caliber big and being realistic a good starting caliber big is going to have to come from the Simons salary slot, which is why he should be traded IMO.

Well it’s clear who they want for their bigs, Luke and Al.

I think the two clear guys they would want back are PJ Washington or Brandon Clarke. Reasonable deals, the right age, both guys are squeezed for playing time (esp PJ being on an expiring deal). Could throw Rui in there but distant third for me due to contract and more.

They’d just need to figure out what those teams want because I doubt Boston has it or wants to give it up at this point.

Brad is just saying the right things.

Luke and Al returning depends on if the price is right.

I'm sure if Al asks for 10m per season, Brad will pass.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1183 » by Cricket23 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:03 pm

I like Simons a lot more than most people it seems as I view him as an exceptional scorer. But if he is on the block, what about John Collins? His value has taken a hit but he's still only 27 and a pretty good player. The money is close enough and also an expiring, could probably resign at less than he's making now. Would likely need a 3rd team as Utah probably has no need for Simons. I mean he's a pretty prototypical modern day 4 who can shoot, rebound, and play small ball 5.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1184 » by Fierce1 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:13 pm

Cricket23 wrote:I like Simons a lot more than most people it seems as I view him as an exceptional scorer. But if he is on the block, what about John Collins? His value has taken a hit but he's still only 27 and a pretty good player. The money is close enough and also an expiring, could probably resign at less than he's making now. Would likely need a 3rd team as Utah probably has no need for Simons. I mean he's a pretty prototypical modern day 4 who can shoot, rebound, and play small ball 5.

Need a Center.

Collins is more of a luxury than a need.
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Post#1185 » by Cricket23 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:19 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Cricket23 wrote:I like Simons a lot more than most people it seems as I view him as an exceptional scorer. But if he is on the block, what about John Collins? His value has taken a hit but he's still only 27 and a pretty good player. The money is close enough and also an expiring, could probably resign at less than he's making now. Would likely need a 3rd team as Utah probably has no need for Simons. I mean he's a pretty prototypical modern day 4 who can shoot, rebound, and play small ball 5.

Need a Center.

Collins is more of a luxury than a need.


I agree, but that option might not be out there
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Post#1186 » by Fierce1 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:23 pm

Cricket23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
Cricket23 wrote:I like Simons a lot more than most people it seems as I view him as an exceptional scorer. But if he is on the block, what about John Collins? His value has taken a hit but he's still only 27 and a pretty good player. The money is close enough and also an expiring, could probably resign at less than he's making now. Would likely need a 3rd team as Utah probably has no need for Simons. I mean he's a pretty prototypical modern day 4 who can shoot, rebound, and play small ball 5.

Need a Center.

Collins is more of a luxury than a need.


I agree, but that option might not be out there

Agree.

That's why I say don't trade Simons this early.

But Vooch is an option.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1187 » by NotAKnicksFan » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:42 pm

Trade hauser and then aquire naz reid for 22 mil per in sign n trade for tpe + niang a future 1st
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1188 » by Fierce1 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:44 pm

NotAKnicksFan wrote:Trade hauser and then aquire naz reid for 22 mil per in sign n trade for tpe + niang a future 1st

Naz wants to stay in Minny.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1189 » by Memokerobi » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:47 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
NotAKnicksFan wrote:Trade hauser and then aquire naz reid for 22 mil per in sign n trade for tpe + niang a future 1st

Naz wants to stay in Minny.


He signed a big extension yesterday, hes staying
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1190 » by Cricket23 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:49 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
Cricket23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Need a Center.

Collins is more of a luxury than a need.


I agree, but that option might not be out there

Agree.

That's why I say don't trade Simons this early.

But Vooch is an option.


I don't like that at all. He's a stopgap and they won't contend while he's on the team. They could re-sign Collins at less than he's making now and they would have him through his prime years which coincides with the Jays. Part of my thought process includes my desire that Pritchard should remain the 6th man and Boston should play bigger and get more athletic.
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Post#1191 » by Cricket23 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:58 pm

Collins to Boston

Simons and Springer to Sacramento

Derozan (flip), Walsh, and 2nds to Utah
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1192 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:03 pm

Bruins definitely had a better draft than the Celtics and there's hope for Stevens as a Drafter, because generally Bruins GM Don Sweeney has been awful at it, but hit a home run this time out ..

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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1193 » by cloverleaf » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:04 pm

NotAKnicksFan wrote:Trade hauser and then aquire naz reid for 22 mil per in sign n trade for tpe + niang a future 1st


I'll take it you're not Bill Chisholm's accountant.
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Post#1194 » by 31to6 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:05 pm

A few days ago on a random ESPN hit Shams said if KP is traded (from Boston) to expect Collins to be traded soon thereafter — could’ve been totally random, but also seemed like maybe he knows there’s something connecting those two dots.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1195 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:09 pm

John Collins is terrible. He looks like an NBA player but he's been a loser for 8 years. Besides, he'll be a free agent in a few days.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1196 » by Memokerobi » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:11 pm

What about Simons for Claxton? Maybe we get a few picks back too because his contract is longer. Its also front loaded so it declines every year which would be good for us
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Post#1197 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:14 pm

I want a young sleeper. How about the other Jaylin Williams, the one who is half Vietnamese?

Let me add that I want no part of Claxton either. Worst free throw shooter in the league. And talk about a guy who doesn't fit Mazulla's system.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1198 » by Memokerobi » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:17 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Bruins definitely had a better draft than the Celtics and there's hope for Stevens as a Drafter, because generally Bruins GM Don Sweeney has been awful at it, but hit a home run this time out ..

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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1199 » by celticgreenie » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:25 pm

31to6 wrote:A few days ago on a random ESPN hit Shams said if KP is traded (from Boston) to expect Collins to be traded soon thereafter — could’ve been totally random, but also seemed like maybe he knows there’s something connecting those two dots.


I could see this being true. Collins has Jeff Schwartz as his agent.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1200 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:25 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:John Collins is terrible. He looks like an NBA player but he's been a loser for 8 years. Besides, he'll be a free agent in a few days.

John Collins just opted in for the year a few days ago

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