Offseason 2025 Thread

JustBuzzin · Post #581 » by **JustBuzzin** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:01 pm

fatlever wrote:Brown's contract scares the living **** out of me. But I am with YB I would trade An insane amount of assets for bam

Finals MVP Jaylen Brown... 8-)

LofJ · Post #582 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:11 pm

Another alternative that hasn't been brought up is Derrick Lively. I know he doesn't fit the brain dead spam 3's offense Lee wants, but with the Mavs recently extending Gafford and Davis being better as a 5 these days he could be available for the right price. I think they'd seriously consider an offer of their pick returned with maybe McNeeley plus NSJ going their way.

Chapelchilla · Post #583 » by **Chapelchilla** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:35 pm

Bam would be worth 4 firsts, Miles and nsj.

amcoolio · Post #584 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:40 pm

The 2026 NBA draft apparently has 4 prospects on Harper's level as #1 overall pick talent. There's a 98% chance we are just bringing back this roster adding the 4 rookies and calling it a day, and you are just going to sit there and take it

Chapelchilla · Post #585 » by **Chapelchilla** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:47 pm

amcoolio wrote:The 2026 NBA draft apparently has 4 prospects on Harper's level as #1 overall pick talent. There's a 98% chance we are just bringing back this roster adding the 4 rookies and calling it a day, and you are just going to sit there and take it

That's ok too. We need to clear out Nurkic and probably Miles $.
Bring in a top tier talent next year in the draft and then complete the roster with a big FA trade.
This year they will be better and far more entertaining with less g leaguers while the new picks gel together. Pretty sure they are doing what they said all along so far. For years we needed to fully rebuild and it takes time to get the right players in place.

SWedd523 · Post #586 » by **SWedd523** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:33 pm

Braggins wrote:If someone is offering you picks that have like a 10% chance of returning a player as good as the player you are sending out, even if that player has legitimate injury risk (which I never said Mark doesn't), that doesn't mean you have to do it, even if thats the best offer you can get. I don't think they should have been even looking to trade him in the first place and especially not when his value was likely at an all time low (outside of the event of him having a career ending injury).

I said pretty clearly I think they would have been better off just seeing what they can get out of Mark as a player rather than trade him for some garbage late 1sts right now. If I wanted to move on from a player his level that has some injury risk and that was the best I was being offered I would just not trade him. If he continues to play like he has shown hes capable in the past and stays decently healthy his value will go up and you can maybe actually trade him for a decent return, or just have a good center on your team.

I would rather incur the risk of him having a career ending injury and basically going to zero value than trade him for the package they got. And I don't actually think there is any reason to think he is at a high risk of having some imminent catastrophic injury any day now based on everything we know about his health and what was reported with the LA trade. It was reported that LA was worried about his long term health, which made perfect sense since they were trading an unprotected first that wouldn't convey for 5 years.

One million and three halves percent this right here^^^^^^

KingCat · Post #587 » by **KingCat** » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:26 pm

Im probably a little weary than most on Bam. My partner is a big Heat fan and I've been watching about 30+ of their regular season games since the bubble.

His athleticism has already taken a noticeable dip and his game relies on it a lot. Plus without Butler lighting a fire under his bum, he looked bored and pedestrian a majority of the season. Our leader less locker room and gutless coaching staff prob won't do him any favors.

I'd still trade for him for the right price but I can absolutely see Riley trading him sooner or later and then looking like an absolute swindler in hindsight.

MasterIchiro · Post #588 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:00 am

KingCat wrote:Im probably a little weary than most on Bam. My partner is a big Heat fan and I've been watching about 30+ of their regular season games since the bubble.

His athleticism has already taken a noticeable dip and his game relies on it a lot. Plus without Butler lighting a fire under his bum, he looked bored and pedestrian a majority of the season. Our leader less locker room and gutless coaching staff prob won't do him any favors.

I'd still trade for him for the right price but I can absolutely see Riley trading him sooner or later and then looking like an absolute swindler in hindsight.

I expect safe trades from Peterson, on top of safe draft picks from Peterson. The Salaün pick is an outlier.

Snidely FC · Post #589 » by **Snidely FC** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 10:34 am

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MasterIchiro · Post #590 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:41 pm

We can't go into the season with Nurkic starting, can we?

Why aren't we talking more about this?

KembaWalker · Post #591 » by **KembaWalker** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:47 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:We can't go into the season with Nurkic starting, can we?

Why aren't we talking more about this?

I don’t think anyone has any false notions of this team trying to win unlike the last couple years. Nurkic/Moussa/Kalk is a perfectly suitable rotation for our goals

MasterIchiro · Post #592 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 1:08 pm

KembaWalker wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:We can't go into the season with Nurkic starting, can we?

Why aren't we talking more about this?

I don’t think anyone has any false notions of this team trying to win unlike the last couple years. Nurkic/Moussa/Kalk is a perfectly suitable rotation for our goals

So LaMelo gets blamed for losing despite that being the goal. I'd be pissed if I were Melo, Brandon, and Miles. We know the latter 2 definitely hate losing. And who likes it? The owners, and their chief executive. That's who.

And Charlotte fans are like, cool. We can blame the workers. We owe it to the bosses for gracing our apartments with a Walmart special.

Bassman · Post #593 » by **Bassman** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:08 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:We can't go into the season with Nurkic starting, can we?

Why aren't we talking more about this?

I don’t think anyone has any false notions of this team trying to win unlike the last couple years. Nurkic/Moussa/Kalk is a perfectly suitable rotation for our goals

So LaMelo gets blamed for losing despite that being the goal. I'd be pissed if I were Melo, Brandon, and Miles. We know the latter 2 definitely hate losing. And who likes it? The owners, and their chief executive. That's who.

And Charlotte fans are like, cool. We can blame the workers. We owe it to the bosses for gracing our apartments with a Walmart special.

I certainly hope this group has a better plan utilizing trades to step up more for THIS season, but I’m doubtful. Jeffie has a LONG leash, and he’s convinced the owners to build slowly, steadily. Maybe part of that is a serious evaluation of who can really be counted as part of the core? Is Melo on a “prove yourself” trial, same with Miles? Miller may not be ready early and has a serious injury to work through. Don’t know, but I don’t seem them introducing a major player into this, such as Jarrett Allen. Maybe by the trade deadline they’ll make decisions.

MasterIchiro · Post #594 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 3:10 pm

Bassman wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
I don’t think anyone has any false notions of this team trying to win unlike the last couple years. Nurkic/Moussa/Kalk is a perfectly suitable rotation for our goals

So LaMelo gets blamed for losing despite that being the goal. I'd be pissed if I were Melo, Brandon, and Miles. We know the latter 2 definitely hate losing. And who likes it? The owners, and their chief executive. That's who.

And Charlotte fans are like, cool. We can blame the workers. We owe it to the bosses for gracing our apartments with a Walmart special.

I certainly hope this group has a better plan utilizing trades to step up more for THIS season, but I’m doubtful. Jeffie has a LONG leash, and he’s convinced the owners to build slowly, steadily. Maybe part of that is a serious evaluation of who can really be counted as part of the core? Is Melo on a “prove yourself” trial, same with Miles? Miller may not be ready early and has a serious injury to work through. Don’t know, but I don’t seem them introducing a major player into this, such as Jarrett Allen. Maybe by the trade deadline they’ll make decisions.

Jeff has convinced the owners?

It's the other way around.

They want to slash costs and for us to cheer along.

Chapelchilla · Post #595 » by **Chapelchilla** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:20 pm

ESPN (Givony) did their post draft wrap up.
He gave the Hornets 2 major props. Best Draft class overall AND best value pick (Liam).

Post #596 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:41 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:ESPN (Givony) did their post draft wrap up.
He gave the Hornets 2 major props. Best Draft class overall AND best value pick (Liam).

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I've yet to see any of the legit draft site that didn't like our draft. Fwiw. Doesn't mean anything for few years, but...

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Post #597 » by **fatlever** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:50 pm

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Yall think it was the magic?

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JustBuzzin · Post #598 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:02 pm

My question is what exactly are we waiting for to make a significant deal. We already know we have the picks to get a deal done.

They say LaMelo is staying well go get him some damn help! Running it back with this same core is just going to put us back in the lottery. At some point you need to start winning with LaMelo because if not he's going to demand out then we will be at his mercy.

If I was Peterson I would be trying to get a deal done with Boston for Jaylen Brown. He's one of the few stars who won't have a list of preferred teams. These are the players you trade for when you're a small market like Charlotte. In a weak East there is no reason why LaMelo/Miller/Brown core can't compete for the playoffs.

SWedd523 · Post #599 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:58 pm

fatlever wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Yall think it was the magic?

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Don't know but I think they're deluding themselves if they think they're going to go another year tanking with Melo.

Right or wrong, good or bad, they need to realize it's time to move on.

JustBuzzin · Post #600 » by **JustBuzzin** » Sat Jun 28, 2025 8:03 pm

These guys have no idea what they are doing if you ask me.

We got a injury prone star, yet they pushing a long term vision. We are basically wasting LaMelo's time and he's doing the same to us because he can't stay healthy.

If you going to trade him it needs to be now. If you going to keep him then put some damn help around him.

Why are they making this so complicated?