Shams: Naz Reid 5/125

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Conley / Dillingham
Edwards / DiVincenzo / Clark
McDaniels / Shannon / Minott
Randle / Reid / Miller
Gobert / Beringer / Garza

I expect the Wolves to leverage Randle to take a slight pay cut. Maybe 3 years 80 with a player option in year 3. Not many teams have enough cap space to give Randle even what he is making now without a sign and trade. Moreover, Randle is beginning the twilight of his prime and historically has a down year following a contract year. All of this plus injury history and injury trend strongly implies that Randle takes a pay cut to avoid playing without a guaranteed contract in front of him. If he goes from 30 to 27 that opens up 3 million. Use that plus the 2 we already have and you can sign a TPMLE PG to round out the roster.

P.S. Don’t be surprised if Gobert or DDV are traded at or before the deadline.

[hugepatsfan]

Not sure I like Reid’s archetype/playing style as one of the core pieces for a title team, and this contract kind of commits them to him on that. I don’t think the value is bad, but feels like it sets up for him to be the kind of guy you have to make the tough call to trade eventually for something a little more suited to being a core piece.

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Conley / Dillingham
Edwards / DiVincenzo / Clark
McDaniels / Shannon / Minott
Randle / Reid / Miller
Gobert / Beringer / Garza

I expect the Wolves to leverage Randle to take a slight pay cut. Maybe 3 years 80 with a player option in year 3. Not many teams have enough cap space to give Randle even what he is making now without a sign and trade. Moreover, Randle is beginning the twilight of his prime and historically has a down year following a contract year. All of this plus injury history and injury trend strongly implies that Randle takes a pay cut to avoid playing without a guaranteed contract in front of him. If he goes from 30 to 27 that opens up 3 million. Use that plus the 2 we already have and you can sign a TPMLE PG to round out the roster.

P.S. Don’t be surprised if Gobert or DDV are traded at or before the deadline.

They couldn't leverage this supposed lack of cap space by other teams on Reid why would it work on Randle to get him to take a 3/80?

[jayjaysee]

I like it. But I’m not sure I agree they needed to let him have a player option. Seems like they took care of him well enough to just make it a normal 5 year contract.

But Naz justifies the contract imo, so it’s fine. He’s really good and fits with the core.

And it opens up any option they want to go with Randle.

[brackdan70]

Contract seems about right. Very good young player. Probably is a starter before long . Could be now.
This puts him somewhere around 80 th highest paid player in the league. He was 44th last year in LEBRON WAR.

[In-N-Out 247]

Saw on the GB thread about this that someone mentioned Naz Reid is 25 and so I looked it up and yeah he is. I legit thought Naz was around 30 lol

[shrink]

I do think a playmaker that can get more offense for Rudy is a need for Minnesota..

Good point. The Naz-Gobert pairing had the second highest two-man net rating on the Wolves last year.

[Streakers33]

What does our salary cap look like if Minny offers Randle the same contract as Naz?


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[BK_2020]

What does our salary cap look like if Minny offers Randle the same contract as Naz?


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Randle is a starter who is a 3 time AS and 2 time All-NBA, all not so long ago. I don't see him taking the same contract as Naz.

[ReggiesKnicks]

What does our salary cap look like if Minny offers Randle the same contract as Naz?


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You save $10 million this year, probably enough for ya'll to retain NAW and stay under the 2nd Apron.

[oldncreaky]

Not sure I like Reid’s archetype/playing style as one of the core pieces for a title team, and this contract kind of commits them to him on that. I don’t think the value is bad, but feels like it sets up for him to be the kind of guy you have to make the tough call to trade eventually for something a little more suited to being a core piece.

Agree that the money itself is not so much an issue, rather the commitment to contract/Reid as a core piece

The salary cap over the next 5 years will be roughly a billion dollars (*), so this contract is for roughly 12.5% of the cap over the life of the deal. That's pretty reasonable given Reid's age, production and stats. However, it is also fair to question whether devoting that much of the cap to a non-starter makes sense in a world of aprons.

* Salary cap over next 5 years expected to be $155M + 181 + 199 + 221 + 232 = $999M

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What does our salary cap look like if Minny offers Randle the same contract as Naz?

Randle is a starter who is a 3 time AS and 2 time All-NBA, all not so long ago. I don't see him taking the same contract as Naz

Yes, you’re right. Randle deserves more than Naz. He was terrific in the second half of the season and the Wolves best player in the first two playoff series. And his résumé is amazing, as you mentioned.

But I don’t know if that’s where we end up. Randle isn’t motivated by money - after one of those All NBA seasons, he didn’t even demand the max, which is crazy. He and his wife love Minnesota, Randle really loves Finch, and he has a chance to compete for a ring here. Randle knows he is the odd-fitting piece, but he has seen Minnesota fans start the season worrying, “What if Randle opts in!?!” to later worrying, “What if Randle DOESN’T opt in?!?”

We’ll get a hint soon, to see if he picks up his $31 player option, and probably get extension info, or trade rumors, right after that.

[jscott]

What does our salary cap look like if Minny offers Randle the same contract as Naz?

Randle is a starter who is a 3 time AS and 2 time All-NBA, all not so long ago. I don't see him taking the same contract as Naz

Yes, you’re right. Randle deserves more than Naz. He was terrific in the second half of the season and the Wolves best player in the first two playoff series. And his résumé is amazing, as you mentioned.

But I don’t know if that’s where we end up. Randle isn’t motivated by money - after one of those All NBA seasons, he didn’t even demand the max, which is crazy. He and his wife love Minnesota, Randle really loves Finch, and he has a chance to compete for a ring here. Randle knows he is the odd-fitting piece, but he has seen Minnesota fans start the season worrying, “What if Randle opts in!?!” to later worrying, “What if Randle DOESN’T opt in?!?”

We’ll get a hint soon, to see if he picks up his $31 player option, and probably get extension info, or trade rumors, right after that.

Fischer says Julius is next/close.

https://marcstein.substack.com/p/nba-free-agency-and-trade-talk-latest

[Ptolemaic]

Deal likely starts at 21m next year and basically goes up with the cap, so from that perspective I actually think it's pretty good value. Bigger question is, depending on what they do with Randle this locks the team into an Edwards/McDaniels/Gobert/Naz/Randle core for the foreseeable future, with limited ability to improve around the margins. Is that enough to get over the WCF hump? They gotta be betting huge on improvements from Ant's playmaking and passing and McDaniels offensive game... we will see.

[nykballa2k4]

I get it, being it's a league-wide board we're on, but it's very obvious there is a gap in understanding of who Naz Reid is and what he means to the Minnesota franchise.

It's easy to look from afar and think it's a lot of money for a bench player.....and maybe it is. But

The biggest thing to understand is that he is a cult hero in Minnesota. He is more of a fan favorite in this market than Anthony Edwards.

When people with the organization talk about core building blocks for the future, it is Anthony Edwards, Jaden McDaniels, and Naz Reid. They put their money where their mouths are too. Remember Jaden was the guy the Minnesota front office refused to include in the Rudy Gobert trade, even though he hadn't even been a full-time starter to that point. And they ended up signing him to a 5/131 deal.

IMO it's a good deal for him and a good deal for MIN. Best case at this point would be to extend or sign and trade Randle elsewhere to fill in holes and build depth, but if that's not an option then stay the course.

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