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Dame Lizard wrote:Wow, that efficiency is gross. But this is the offseason, so let's turn this negativity into optimism in the sense that he's MJ 2.0. We finally have our star!JRoy wrote:DusterBuster wrote:Not paying attention to the 2nd round, Blazers do anything or did Joe and Co take the night off after a real barn burner night last night? /s
The chuckiest chucker that ever chucked.
Edrees wrote:JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all
I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
DusterBuster wrote:Norm2953 wrote:I do think it silly to get so upset by what the local team does in these player drafts for I'm old
enough to remember some really horrendous drafts.
This draft was top heavy but starting at pick 3, there was a big drop off followed by another drop
off after Duke Center Maluach was taken by Phoenix. I might have preferred Portland doing the
trade that Atlanta made with the Pelicans and settling for someone like Liam at 23 but if they
really believed in Yang, its understandable they took the player they coveted.
The problem most of us have is a matter of fit and perhaps implies there will be a trade involving
Yang (if he shows he can play) or Clingan for an unknown return
Yuuuupp... My only frustration is the pretty clear lack of any direction for the franchise right now. Just feels like total throwing **** against the wall mode.
mighty_duck wrote:red_power wrote:mighty_duck wrote:That said - even in the rosiest of scenarios, he is at least two years away from being a rotation player.
In fact, he was a full time starter on his team in China. I know CBA is not the strongest basketball league around the world, but the same time he can't be compared to folks like Dragan Bender who had almost zero professional basketball exposure prior the NBA draft.
Yang either starts contribute after a short accomodation period or we can write him off quickly.
Anyway, his stats on the Chinese team look interesting. It seems he could really put the ball into the basket there. Makes sense why Blazers FO decided to roll a dice to see if his balling ability translates well into an NBA level and they managed to snatch another international talent like Sengun.
I hope you're right.
But young centers usually take more time to develop even when facing good competition before coming to the NBA.
dckingsfan wrote:"I think" we have 5 Cs going into this year. Ayton, Clingan, RWIII, Reath and Yang.
Let's be honest. Only Ayton and Clingan are going to get minutes unless one of them is hurt. Or as Chauncey Billups said, "...it's a crowded room."
This allows Yang a full year to be in the development league working on his game, his body and his shot. I would hope he plays in back-to-back summer leagues as well.
Ayton, RWIII and Reath could all be gone next season. If Yang could slide in as his backup, that would be a huge win (opinion).
I don't think we will actually know if he was a good pick until the end of 26-27 at the earliest.
Norm2953 wrote:I wonder if Portland would have listened if Brooklyn really wanted Yang and offered up 19,22 for 16
I really wanted Fleming too, and would have happily taken him at #16.Case2012 wrote:I would have been totally cool if they had simply gotten that 31 for Fleming who we considered at 16 anyways when we thought the Simons for 16 was a real thing.
That to me wouldn't have been a homerun draft but i really wanted a 6'9 7'6 WS forward with small ball center potential. He was super efficient shooting 44% from 3 on almost exclusively catch and shoot or being able to take 3 steps in for a dunk. He's pretty explosive and the help defense potential is very real. I watched a lot of scouting footage of him and he'd be perfect on a team that values long, rangy forwards and in dire need of shooting.
We could have easily sent Minny those 2 second round picks Phoenix paid for him. No shot creation but he would have been fantastic in PNR either diving to the basket or popping out for a 3. I'm honestly pretty shocked Joe didn't do that after we worked him out. But then again, all logic and reason seems to escape this FO. Like, just for once, do the smart and obvious thing. They aren't playing 3d chess or whatever they think they're doing.
TLDR Fleming would have made the swing for Yang a lot more palatable and considering the kind of reaction they should have known the fans would have to that pick.
It would have appeased us a little at least, but who cares about what the fans think i guess right? That seems to be the general attitude with this FO which is why i hated Olshey so much. His moves were in spite of the fans not for us, and they were made with almost a certain disdain for the city in general, talking about how horrible the city is and how FA's would rather die than play here. He definitely didn't sell Portland very well. I remember a round table with other GMs and Ainge calling him out on how he talked about Portland. That and the attitude that we were just too stupid to understand what a basketball genius he was building a team of guards 6'3 and under at every position.
Joe doesn't come across that way at all with his delivery at least, but the decisions still reflect that attitude.
HotrodBeaubois wrote:I never said Dallas was good as Portland
HotrodBeaubois wrote:That's the Whole Point Portland is No better than Dallas
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Norm2953 wrote:I wonder if Portland would have listened if Brooklyn really wanted Yang and offered up 19,22 for 16
The team acted as if he was a cant-miss player so doubtful. I am getting the impression that if there was no trade-down option that they would have taken Yang at 11 and been happy with it.
Norm2953 wrote:DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Norm2953 wrote:I wonder if Portland would have listened if Brooklyn really wanted Yang and offered up 19,22 for 16
The team acted as if he was a cant-miss player so doubtful. I am getting the impression that if there was no trade-down option that they would have taken Yang at 11 and been happy with it.
Nets had the draft capital to get ahead of the Blazers if they wanted to and really did not need 4 FRP in the later half
of this draft but Yang is the classic low floor, perhaps higher ceiling player as opposed to Clingan who seems to be a
higher floor, low ceiling.
Something is likely in the works but let's say Portland trades DC to Charlotte for let's say Salaun + future pick. Portland
has Ayton/TL to hold down the fort while Yang basically redshirts his 2026 season away in the G league, while learning
English on the side. Knowing Joe, he's just not to let Ayton walk away for nothing and might be stupid enough to
extend him even with DC/Yang on the roster.
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