Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread

[Knightro]

The final thing needed for Weltmans great awakening this summer is moving Isaac for a table setter imo. He sees this team as a contender, this team is getting paid like contenders, and now you've got to go get the final piece which is a point guard that can come off the bench and be on the court in the most important stretches of games.

I don't think Weltmans is done, personally. He's seen the light on what many NBA people and media have been criticizing him on for years now. He can't be blind to this glaring need either.

Here's what it boils down to for me...

Which of the following players are you most comfortable NOT being on the team this upcoming season?

-Jonathan Isaac
-Moritz Wagner
-Goga Bitadze

It feels like one of them has to go to truly balance and maximize this roster for next season.

[VFX]

The final thing needed for Weltmans great awakening this summer is moving Isaac for a table setter imo. He sees this team as a contender, this team is getting paid like contenders, and now you've got to go get the final piece which is a point guard that can come off the bench and be on the court in the most important stretches of games.

I don't think Weltmans is done, personally. He's seen the light on what many NBA people and media have been criticizing him on for years now. He can't be blind to this glaring need either.

Here's what it boils down to for me...

Which of the following players are you most comfortable NOT being on the team this upcoming season?

-Jonathan Isaac
-Moritz Wagner
-Goga Bitadze

It feels like one of them has to go to truly balance and maximize this roster for next season.

Well that’s half the equation

Those three players don’t hold the same value for different reasons.

Some aren’t super attractive assets at all.

[Knightro]

The final thing needed for Weltmans great awakening this summer is moving Isaac for a table setter imo. He sees this team as a contender, this team is getting paid like contenders, and now you've got to go get the final piece which is a point guard that can come off the bench and be on the court in the most important stretches of games.

I don't think Weltmans is done, personally. He's seen the light on what many NBA people and media have been criticizing him on for years now. He can't be blind to this glaring need either.

Here's what it boils down to for me...

Which of the following players are you most comfortable NOT being on the team this upcoming season?

-Jonathan Isaac
-Moritz Wagner
-Goga Bitadze

It feels like one of them has to go to truly balance and maximize this roster for next season.

Well that’s half the equation

Those three players don’t hold the same value for different reasons.

Some aren’t super attractive assets at all.

It's not necessarily apples to apples anyway.

Moe would depart via a declined option which would lead the Magic to signing someone for the full MLE.

Isaac is probably more of a contract filler in a trade coming off the season he had, but I think there are some teams who might still value him a little bit as a player.

Goga probably has the most on-court value, but he makes the least amount which may limit the caliber of player he can bring back.

[Dub_Sax]

Thoughts on moving on from the Wagners all together.
Decline Moe's option
And
Trade Franz to Por for
Avdija
RW III
K. Murray



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[tiderulz]

The final thing needed for Weltmans great awakening this summer is moving Isaac for a table setter imo. He sees this team as a contender, this team is getting paid like contenders, and now you've got to go get the final piece which is a point guard that can come off the bench and be on the court in the most important stretches of games.

I don't think Weltmans is done, personally. He's seen the light on what many NBA people and media have been criticizing him on for years now. He can't be blind to this glaring need either.

Here's what it boils down to for me...

Which of the following players are you most comfortable NOT being on the team this upcoming season?

-Jonathan Isaac
-Moritz Wagner
-Goga Bitadze

It feels like one of them has to go to truly balance and maximize this roster for next season.

unpopular opinion.....Isaac.

[Knightro]

I don't love it, but the Magic could trade Goga to the Lakers for Dalton Knecht and save $4.3M immediately.

That would put them under the luxury tax and they wouldn't have to decline Moe's option if they didn't want to.

Would really be highly dependent on what you think of Knecht as a potential rotation player.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Thoughts on moving on from the Wagners all together.
Decline Moe's option
And
Trade Franz to Por for
Avdija
RW III
K. Murray



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Not remotely close. Avdija is getting overrated on preposterous levels.

[VFX]

Thoughts on moving on from the Wagners all together.
Decline Moe's option
And
Trade Franz to Por for
Avdija
RW III
K. Murray



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Is Portland throwing in 5 future firsts?

Also, if Orlando ever even entertained a trade like this I would pray it’s Paolo over Franz.

[yoyojw17]

Magic have said they are open to trading Slim. $15 mil is hard to justify for 15mpg player.

Well..... Its unless they won't plan on him only doing 15 min again..... And there were reasons for it last year.... Like not being quite in shape due to the added weight that they all agreed to have put on. Hopefully his conditioning and confidence is renewed and he can have the best season of his life. The whole team has a downer year shooting.... But you really can't deny the effect JI has on the court. If something great comes along and he's needed to be added to make it happen ... Then as I've said... "Thank you for your service"...but I don't think they are actively trying to get him off the team.

8 years of Maybes on this guy.

I'm not saying i'm against trading him... but it better be for something of value. That's all. Even in his crappy offensive season... which goes along with nearly every player on the team.... his net rating (+ 10 per 100 possessions) was only second to Goga (+22 per 100 possession) on the team. So... for ME... they are not' just trying to get "rid" of either of those two. And with Isaac.... you don't give up on someone you have looked at all of those maybes... after his best season healthwise since his sophomore year. And yes.... they asked him to put on weight.... and he was not responding well to the new bulk at the beginning of the season.... he dropped a lot of it.... and if the durability and strength sticks... and his athletic advantage returns... then he might be a bonafide bench stud next to Moe who we hope will get resigned.

And though I loved the penda pick.... he hasn't done ish in this league.... so there is no need in my mind for a patient FO to rush it either. And as a contingency against injury... this is all built into isaac's contract.

[cedric76]

Goga will be a great trade chip in feb 2026, we shouldn't trade him now

[Blue_and_Whte]

Well..... Its unless they won't plan on him only doing 15 min again..... And there were reasons for it last year.... Like not being quite in shape due to the added weight that they all agreed to have put on. Hopefully his conditioning and confidence is renewed and he can have the best season of his life. The whole team has a downer year shooting.... But you really can't deny the effect JI has on the court. If something great comes along and he's needed to be added to make it happen ... Then as I've said... "Thank you for your service"...but I don't think they are actively trying to get him off the team.

8 years of Maybes on this guy.

I'm not saying i'm against trading him... but it better be for something of value. That's all. Even in his crappy offensive season... which goes along with nearly every player on the team.... his net rating (+ 10 per 100 possessions) was only second to Goga (+22 per 100 possession) on the team. So... for ME... they are not' just trying to get "rid" of either of those two. And with Isaac.... you don't give up on someone you have looked at all of those maybes... after his best season healthwise since his sophomore year. And yes.... they asked him to put on weight.... and he was not responding well to the new bulk at the beginning of the season.... he dropped a lot of it.... and if the durability and strength sticks... and his athletic advantage returns... then he might be a bonafide bench stud next to Moe who we hope will get resigned.

And though I loved the penda pick.... he hasn't done ish in this league.... so there is no need in my mind for a patient FO to rush it either. And as a contingency against injury... this is all built into isaac's contract.

Weltman said we’d have to sacrifice SOME defense for offense, not all of our defense for offense.

If they absolutely have to move one I think it should be Goga. Love him but the lack of switchability hurts us. Regardless of JI not responding to the added weight he was still a plus player and still gave us solid defense.

[HighPack]

I don't love it, but the Magic could trade Goga to the Lakers for Dalton Knecht and save $4.3M immediately.

That would put them under the luxury tax and they wouldn't have to decline Moe's option if they didn't want to.

Would really be highly dependent on what you think of Knecht as a potential rotation player.

If they decline Caleb and sign a third option center for 2M it could work. Paul Reed,Wood,Wiseman,Biyombo...

[nate33]

Would you guys do Isaac for Kispert?

[Knightro]

Would you guys do Isaac for Kispert?

I personally would not. But I think there are folks around here who would consider it.

[Idiosyncratic]

I'm not sure how I feel about moving Goga with how often Wendell is hurt and the fact that Mo is best suited coming off the bench and also coming off of major injury. I thought about this during the draft when they passed on a big, it just seems like potentially having to had rely on a 2nd round big or in this case a vet min big would not feel that great. Also there is the fact that Goga was really good for us last year, especially before he got hurt.

I just wonder if they are willing to spend in free agency if they can wait for the bargains near the end and get similar quality guard/wing play as they could trading Goga.

Of course it depends on what is truly available for Goga. Also the fact that if Mosley doesn't plan to play him they could do right by him by trading him somewhere he will get a chance. I definitely see both sides of it, I'm not sure what the right move is.

[nate33]

Thoughts on moving on from the Wagners all together.
Decline Moe's option
And
Trade Franz to Por for
Avdija
RW III
K. Murray



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Not remotely close. Avdija is getting overrated on preposterous levels.

Portland would decline. Avdija is just as productive as Franz, but with better defense and he is locked into a contract that pays him less than one third of what Franz gets paid. Think about that a bit before dismissing it. With Avdija, you get basically the same production, but an extra 27 MILLION DOLLARS to spend on other players.

Here are the stats.



Also, factor that Avdija was terrible for his first 11 games in Portland as he adjusted to a new team and a new system. Over the remaining 85% of the season, Avdija averaged 21.4 points per 36 on .388 3P% and .623 TS%

[orlando_joe]

Would you guys do Isaac for Kispert?

I personally would not. But I think there are folks around here who would consider it.

i would also hope not

[flying_mollusk]

The final thing needed for Weltmans great awakening this summer is moving Isaac for a table setter imo. He sees this team as a contender, this team is getting paid like contenders, and now you've got to go get the final piece which is a point guard that can come off the bench and be on the court in the most important stretches of games.

I don't think Weltmans is done, personally. He's seen the light on what many NBA people and media have been criticizing him on for years now. He can't be blind to this glaring need either.

Here's what it boils down to for me...

Which of the following players are you most comfortable NOT being on the team this upcoming season?

-Jonathan Isaac
-Moritz Wagner
-Goga Bitadze

It feels like one of them has to go to truly balance and maximize this roster for next season.

Part of that is their relative cost and long term cost. Goga is the cheapest by 7 million and only a risk for two more seasons. He can be used as an expiring after this season. Wagner only 11 million and in last season. Issac is the worst. Most expensive and for longest period. 15 million for four more years! He wasn’t worth that cost this year. I say trade Issac if you can. You get the most room.

[basketballRob]

Thoughts on moving on from the Wagners all together.
Decline Moe's option
And
Trade Franz to Por for
Avdija
RW III
K. Murray



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Not remotely close. Avdija is getting overrated on preposterous levels.

Portland would decline. Avdija is just as productive as Franz, but with better defense and he is locked into a contract that pays him less than one third of what Franz gets paid. Think about that a bit before dismissing it. With Avdija, you get basically the same production, but an extra 27 MILLION DOLLARS to spend on other players.

Here are the stats.



Also, factor that Avdija was terrible for his first 11 games in Portland as he adjusted to a new team and a new system. Over the remaining 85% of the season, Avdija averaged 21.4 points per 36 on .388 3P% and .623 TS%

Deni is around 19 months older. I think Franz has another jump he'll make next season. Everyone on our team numbers was down last season due to the lack of guard play. I think Franz' shooting will take a big jump this season.

Franz is also a better defender than Deni based on EPM. Franz had a 4.3 EPM, and Deni was at 2.2 overall and 1.9 to 0.0 on defense.

Franz Wagner (2025-2025) vs. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2022-2022): Head-to-Head Stats Comparison | Stathead.com https://share.google/ZkgpyaKmMD9RJFgwh

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[dsg2021]

Thoughts on moving on from the Wagners all together.
Decline Moe's option
And
Trade Franz to Por for
Avdija
RW III
K. Murray



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Not remotely close. Avdija is getting overrated on preposterous levels.

Portland would decline. Avdija is just as productive as Franz, but with better defense and he is locked into a contract that pays him less than one third of what Franz gets paid. Think about that a bit before dismissing it. With Avdija, you get basically the same production, but an extra 27 MILLION DOLLARS to spend on other players.

Here are the stats.



Also, factor that Avdija was terrible for his first 11 games in Portland as he adjusted to a new team and a new system. Over the remaining 85% of the season, Avdija averaged 21.4 points per 36 on .388 3P% and .623 TS%

This was the copy/paste argument from 1-2 other people in the last few months. And it was also to compare to Paolo, not Franz, and say that Paolo is worth Avdija and not much else, or that Paolo is not even worth Avdija. Suffice it to say, I am really excited to see Avdija start winning more games than Paolo and Franz and prove us all wrong. But I count the stats and W/L result of 1 Playoffs game equal to about 20 regular season games. Your stats say it will happen though, especially in the Playoffs. Signed with a small hint of petty sarcasm by me, lol