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Apparently the Pistons were going to offer Naz a deal, but never got the chance, and have now turned full bore to Aldama. Lets see how this plays out.
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Showing interest in NAW according to sources. I like NAW and it makes a Malik deal interesting.
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At this point, i’m all in for Aldama
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Aldama’s restricted status makes him a dead end IMO.
I would have been all for the idea of going after Naz, but we never had a shot given how that went down.
I would have been all for the idea of going after Naz, but we never had a shot given how that went down.
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Snakebites wrote:Aldama’s restricted status makes him a dead end IMO.
I would have been all for the idea of going after Naz, but we never had a shot given how that went down.
Yes sir.
I found myself going back and forth on going after Naz/Aldama but recently have thinking maybe we should use those resources on a #2 option. Each passing day seems a #2 just isn't available right now for the right price in this sellers market.
Maybe it's Ivey? Idk i guess I'm trying to build a team in what I thought was the traditional way. Batman in backcourt & Robin in front court. Or vise versa. We shall see!
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Snakebites wrote:Aldama’s restricted status makes him a dead end IMO.
I would have been all for the idea of going after Naz, but we never had a shot given how that went down.
it's still possible through sign and trade, depends on how their contract negotiations go i guess. we'd just have to give something up and i don't think fontecchio is going to cut it. it's all a matter of what we're willing to give up to entice them to trade aldama vs. re-signing him.
that said, i don't know why they wouldn't re-sign him, they're not exactly in cap trouble and have that spot to fill anyways.
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whitehops wrote:Snakebites wrote:Aldama’s restricted status makes him a dead end IMO.
I would have been all for the idea of going after Naz, but we never had a shot given how that went down.
it's still possible through sign and trade, depends on how their contract negotiations go i guess. we'd just have to give something up and i don't think fontecchio is going to cut it. it's all a matter of what we're willing to give up to entice them to trade aldama vs. re-signing him.
that said, i don't know why they wouldn't re-sign him, they're not exactly in cap trouble and have that spot to fill anyways.
To me the Bane trade was made to give them the flexibility to keep the rest of their team intact.
Us landing Aldama just isn’t a possibility that fits with the events we’ve already seen happen. That doesn’t make it impossible but it doesn’t feel very likely.
The Grizzlies hold all the cards here- so we’d need to make it worth their while AND Aldama would have to want to come here in preference to whatever other options may be out there.
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if Aldama is a very long shot where does that leave the Pistons? Markkanen? is he just another longshot given Ainge's propensity to jack up compensation?
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Aldama is NOT a long shot at all. Pistons can absolutely make some small moves to free up more cap space to make Aldama an offer, Memphis will not match. I believe this is the correct path forward. To me, the Pistons are a full time starting PF away from truly competing.
It is ALL on Langdon, and how he perceives Aldama. If he wants him, he can easily land him, even without a S&T.
It is ALL on Langdon, and how he perceives Aldama. If he wants him, he can easily land him, even without a S&T.
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zeebneeb wrote:Aldama is NOT a long shot at all. Pistons can absolutely make some small moves to free up more cap space to make Aldama an offer, Memphis will not match. I believe this is the correct path forward. To me, the Pistons are a full time starting PF away from truly competing.
It is ALL on Langdon, and how he perceives Aldama. If he wants him, he can easily land him, even without a S&T.
But this sort of approach would require a significant overpay, which isn’t a good idea at all with where we are headed.
The only “I want to leave” thing I ever saw with Aldama was his incident with Bane. Bane is gone. So getting him to want to leave AND getting Memphis to not match our offer will require a big contract, probably Naz level or close, and that’s not smart for us.
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zeebneeb wrote:Aldama is NOT a long shot at all. Pistons can absolutely make some small moves to free up more cap space to make Aldama an offer, Memphis will not match. I believe this is the correct path forward. To me, the Pistons are a full time starting PF away from truly competing.
It is ALL on Langdon, and how he perceives Aldama. If he wants him, he can easily land him, even without a S&T.
I'm not familiar with Aldama other than his stats. But on paper he appears to be exactly what the Pistons need. I agree that TL should make Aldama an offer that he can't refuse and that Memphis won't match. There is a window of opportunity next season and it will close quickly (Orlando and Charlotte improved significantly and Cleveland, NYC, and Indiana remain atop of the field). Pistons can challenge if they make the right moves and Aldama could be the player that catalyzing a rapid ascent.
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personally i think we just need a good backup PF. aldama would be great off the bench as a super-sub but he'll likely get like 20M/year. i'd be totally fine with a less expensive alternative as it would be nice to upgrade from fontecchio.
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Laravia for backup PF!
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It all depends on how you view the current Pistons roster. I watched a team, without Stewart, and Ivey, along with zero playoff experience, come within a bad call, and bumbling mistakes, from advancing to the second round.tmorgan wrote:zeebneeb wrote:Aldama is NOT a long shot at all. Pistons can absolutely make some small moves to free up more cap space to make Aldama an offer, Memphis will not match. I believe this is the correct path forward. To me, the Pistons are a full time starting PF away from truly competing.
It is ALL on Langdon, and how he perceives Aldama. If he wants him, he can easily land him, even without a S&T.
But this sort of approach would require a significant overpay, which isn’t a good idea at all with where we are headed.
The only “I want to leave” thing I ever saw with Aldama was his incident with Bane. Bane is gone. So getting him to want to leave AND getting Memphis to not match our offer will require a big contract, probably Naz level or close, and that’s not smart for us.
I firmly believe Aldama would be an ideal fit for the roster. It all depends on how you view it.
I understand completely of other folks don't see it.
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Does Indiana have to cut salary to resign Turner? If so, I'd offer them a couple of seconds and/or Fontechio for Toppin
He's signed for the next 3 years for 14. 15 and 16m and would fit nicely splitting time with Harris. He has his warts ( bad hands. Bad handle, and so-so defense) but he can shoot the 3, is a great finisher and runs the floor very well. They also have a former lottery pick. Jarace Walker who can step in for Toppin
It's not a home run but it would upgrade the roster and his salary would fit in our existing cap space which wouldn't impact any other signing since we're proceeding as an over the gap team.
And if we can't resign Schroeder, I'd look at Tyus Jones.
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He's signed for the next 3 years for 14. 15 and 16m and would fit nicely splitting time with Harris. He has his warts ( bad hands. Bad handle, and so-so defense) but he can shoot the 3, is a great finisher and runs the floor very well. They also have a former lottery pick. Jarace Walker who can step in for Toppin
It's not a home run but it would upgrade the roster and his salary would fit in our existing cap space which wouldn't impact any other signing since we're proceeding as an over the gap team.
And if we can't resign Schroeder, I'd look at Tyus Jones.
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zeebneeb wrote:It all depends on how you view the current Pistons roster. I watched a team, without Stewart, and Ivey, along with zero playoff experience, come within a bad call, and bumbling mistakes, from advancing to the second round.tmorgan wrote:zeebneeb wrote:Aldama is NOT a long shot at all. Pistons can absolutely make some small moves to free up more cap space to make Aldama an offer, Memphis will not match. I believe this is the correct path forward. To me, the Pistons are a full time starting PF away from truly competing.
It is ALL on Langdon, and how he perceives Aldama. If he wants him, he can easily land him, even without a S&T.
But this sort of approach would require a significant overpay, which isn’t a good idea at all with where we are headed.
The only “I want to leave” thing I ever saw with Aldama was his incident with Bane. Bane is gone. So getting him to want to leave AND getting Memphis to not match our offer will require a big contract, probably Naz level or close, and that’s not smart for us.
I firmly believe Aldama would be an ideal fit for the roster. It all depends on how you view it.
I understand completely of other folks don't see it.
That's how I see the roster too, which is why I wouldn't overpay for any additions and would try hard to bring Beasley and Shroder back.
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zeebneeb wrote:It all depends on how you view the current Pistons roster. I watched a team, without Stewart, and Ivey, along with zero playoff experience, come within a bad call, and bumbling mistakes, from advancing to the second round.tmorgan wrote:zeebneeb wrote:Aldama is NOT a long shot at all. Pistons can absolutely make some small moves to free up more cap space to make Aldama an offer, Memphis will not match. I believe this is the correct path forward. To me, the Pistons are a full time starting PF away from truly competing.
It is ALL on Langdon, and how he perceives Aldama. If he wants him, he can easily land him, even without a S&T.
But this sort of approach would require a significant overpay, which isn’t a good idea at all with where we are headed.
The only “I want to leave” thing I ever saw with Aldama was his incident with Bane. Bane is gone. So getting him to want to leave AND getting Memphis to not match our offer will require a big contract, probably Naz level or close, and that’s not smart for us.
I firmly believe Aldama would be an ideal fit for the roster. It all depends on how you view it.
I understand completely of other folks don't see it.
I do think Aldama fits. I also think paying him north of 20 mil a year (which it will likely take to get him) will make his contract difficult to trade later, so he’ll need to really excel, and quickly. I also think a contract that big will cause troubles as we try to extend our rookie deals, try and keep Tobias at a lower salary, and try and keep other veterans like Beasley and Schroder.
Drafting so many key rotation players in a three year span means a salary reckoning is coming, and we either need to keep the books clean or trade one or two guys before they get paid.
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Please don't offer Aldama 20 mil, please!
If we want a PF, sign one thats better then Harris, if that said PF isn't available, wait until one is!
If we want a PF, sign one thats better then Harris, if that said PF isn't available, wait until one is!
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Id take Aldama. Maybe that's what Shröder means. We are gonna operate as a cap space team to go for someone thus squeezing him out. Not using our bird rights on him
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engelbert321 wrote:At this point, i’m all in for Aldama
I think we can get Santi! Make a legit offer. Regardless, it's going to put Memphis in a pickle trying to pay JJJ and fielding a competitive team.
I wouldn't understand the signing of NAW. He's basically a 2 guard



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