With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

[Yallbecrazy]

Pumped for CMB
will be a game changer for us on both ends

Can you please sell me on him? I don't see the hype, especially offensively.

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/comments/1lk6emk/why_the_raptors_will_draft_cmb_should_he_fall_to/

Someone ugly, but smart wrote this piece on reddit predraft that focused mainly on his offense.

[links135]

With his height/reach/hand size etc. He's on that Jordan/Kawhi build.

That's not fair. Sure CMB is .5 inches taller and weighs 15 pounds, and sure they have the same 3/4 court sprint, but CMB also has a better lane agility and vertical.

[djsunyc]

Pumped for CMB
will be a game changer for us on both ends

Can you please sell me on him? I don't see the hype, especially offensively.

Offensively he's gonna be stronger or quicker footwise than most of whoever is guarding him. He also has amazing footwork for his size and strength, all of those aspects are highlighted by his great finishing ability, he's also a lefty which is a cool wrinkle

scottie struggles with knowing how to get to his spots on offense. he still isn't sure how to use his body and how to use his feet in getting into a good position to shoot. he's starting to a little bit with that fadeaway in the post but even that is an issue if he has to adjust.

cmb has excellent footwork and knows how to get into the right position to take a good host. looks natural there.

[Basketball_Jones]

Will be interesting to see how the finishing ability translates against NBA sized players. He seemed bigger or at least same size as everybody in those highlights. If it does translate he’s gonna be a monster.

[right between the eyes]

Really hope the team isn't dropping the ball with the new players arriving in the city because of what happened with Masai. I haven't seen anything posted about them arriving in Toronto.

[Boardbreaker]

Really hope the team isn't dropping the ball with the new players arriving in the city because of what happened with Masai. I haven't seen anything posted about them arriving in Toronto.

I think I got a push notification on the raptors app welcoming CMB

[Rapsfan07]

Can you please sell me on him? I don't see the hype, especially offensively.

Offensively he's gonna be stronger or quicker footwise than most of whoever is guarding him. He also has amazing footwork for his size and strength, all of those aspects are highlighted by his great finishing ability, he's also a lefty which is a cool wrinkle

scottie struggles with knowing how to get to his spots on offense. he still isn't sure how to use his body and how to use his feet in getting into a good position to shoot. he's starting to a little bit with that fadeaway in the post but even that is an issue if he has to adjust.

cmb has excellent footwork and knows how to get into the right position to take a good host. looks natural there.

But how can you play him and Barnes together?

[djsunyc]

Offensively he's gonna be stronger or quicker footwise than most of whoever is guarding him. He also has amazing footwork for his size and strength, all of those aspects are highlighted by his great finishing ability, he's also a lefty which is a cool wrinkle

scottie struggles with knowing how to get to his spots on offense. he still isn't sure how to use his body and how to use his feet in getting into a good position to shoot. he's starting to a little bit with that fadeaway in the post but even that is an issue if he has to adjust.

cmb has excellent footwork and knows how to get into the right position to take a good host. looks natural there.

But how can you play him and Barnes together?

depending on how cmb looks, i could see some minutes shared as cmb being small ball center. he's strong.

but that's more a long term question. he's a rookie so expecting him to contribute right away would be tough. there's also a timeline where one is traded down the road.

[HolyMage110]

Really hope the team isn't dropping the ball with the new players arriving in the city because of what happened with Masai. I haven't seen anything posted about them arriving in Toronto.

Will Lou confirmed they arrived by Friday but their press talk got postponed to summer league cause of the masai departure

[earthtone]

scottie struggles with knowing how to get to his spots on offense. he still isn't sure how to use his body and how to use his feet in getting into a good position to shoot. he's starting to a little bit with that fadeaway in the post but even that is an issue if he has to adjust.

cmb has excellent footwork and knows how to get into the right position to take a good host. looks natural there.

But how can you play him and Barnes together?

depending on how cmb looks, i could see some minutes shared as cmb being small ball center. he's strong.

but that's more a long term question. he's a rookie so expecting him to contribute right away would be tough. there's also a timeline where one is traded down the road.

I think we'll see more Scottie at the 5 this year. He has almost the exact same build as Bam and can definitely handle the offensive and defensive responsibilities at the position. Opens up a lot of playing time for our wing rotation too.

[raptor jesus]

I don't really see the Draymond comp. I don't see CMB on the same level defensively as Draymond, but CMB is a much better scorer w/ a legit iso game from the midpost. To me, the best comp is Anthony Mason.

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[Rapsfan07]

But how can you play him and Barnes together?

depending on how cmb looks, i could see some minutes shared as cmb being small ball center. he's strong.

but that's more a long term question. he's a rookie so expecting him to contribute right away would be tough. there's also a timeline where one is traded down the road.

I think we'll see more Scottie at the 5 this year. He has almost the exact same build as Bam and can definitely handle the offensive and defensive responsibilities at the position. Opens up a lot of playing time for our wing rotation too.

I don't see it man. I think Barnes' is much more suited to play PF. If we wanted a C, why didn't we take a full sized one? Why we always taking guys and wanting them to play out of position.

I really, really don't like this pick.

[earthtone]

depending on how cmb looks, i could see some minutes shared as cmb being small ball center. he's strong.

but that's more a long term question. he's a rookie so expecting him to contribute right away would be tough. there's also a timeline where one is traded down the road.

I think we'll see more Scottie at the 5 this year. He has almost the exact same build as Bam and can definitely handle the offensive and defensive responsibilities at the position. Opens up a lot of playing time for our wing rotation too.

I don't see it man. I think Barnes' is much more suited to play PF. If we wanted a C, why didn't we take a full sized one? Why we always taking guys and wanting them to play out of position.

I really, really don't like this pick.

Really? I think Barnes' ability to roam and provide weak side rim protection is one of his best defensive traits, he can absolutely hang at the 5 on that end IMO.

It would've been nice to have a more solid answer at the C (even tho we should remember the offseason hasn't even started yet), but I think a rim protection-by-committee approach makes a lot of sense with our roster. The only guys on our roster with a sub 6'8" wingspan are Jamal Shead and the new two-way PG we just signed, we have a lot of length at every position.

If you have a Ja'Kobe/RJ/Ingram/CMB/Scottie line-up, you have all five guys with 6'10"+ wingspans, three guys with 7'0"+ wingspans, and two guys with 7'3"+ wingspans. That's a ton of length and defensive versatility everywhere on the court, and still a lot of size at every position (aside from C).

[Boogie!]

I think we'll see more Scottie at the 5 this year. He has almost the exact same build as Bam and can definitely handle the offensive and defensive responsibilities at the position. Opens up a lot of playing time for our wing rotation too.

I don't see it man. I think Barnes' is much more suited to play PF. If we wanted a C, why didn't we take a full sized one? Why we always taking guys and wanting them to play out of position.

I really, really don't like this pick.

Really? I think Barnes' ability to roam and provide weak side rim protection is one of his best defensive traits, he can absolutely hang at the 5 on that end IMO.

It would've been nice to have a more solid answer at the C (even tho we should remember the offseason hasn't even started yet), but I think a rim protection-by-committee approach makes a lot of sense with our roster. The only guys on our roster with a sub 6'8" wingspan are Jamal Shead and the new two-way PG we just signed, we have a lot of length at every position.

If you have a Ja'Kobe/RJ/Ingram/CMB/Scottie line-up, you have all five guys with 6'10"+ wingspans, three guys with 7'0"+ wingspans, and two guys with 7'3"+ wingspans. That's a ton of length and defensive versatility everywhere on the court, and still a lot of size at every position (aside from C).

The defensive versatility is great but at the end of the day can we score efficiently? It seems like every year we keep talking about our lack of offense and shooting and every year we keep compounding it with defense first players. And then the ones who are actually offensively competent we want to get rid of because they don’t play enough defense…

Indiana played great defense all playoffs but let’s not get it twisted they made it as far as they did because of their diverse offensive attack. They have a bunch of guys that can shoot 3s and create offense off the dribble…

And just as a side note to that offensive attack, this is why I’m not high on gradey dick. Not only can’t he play defense, his offense isn’t versatile enough to make him a consistent scorer… his catch and shoot game isn’t elite and he can’t consistently create shots off the dribble because his handle is meh and he gets rattled too easily. I look at someone like nembhard or Mathurin, or guards like Jaylen Williams and I look at dicks game and he just doesn’t look natural or fluid in that type of scorer role.

[links135]

depending on how cmb looks, i could see some minutes shared as cmb being small ball center. he's strong.

but that's more a long term question. he's a rookie so expecting him to contribute right away would be tough. there's also a timeline where one is traded down the road.

I think we'll see more Scottie at the 5 this year. He has almost the exact same build as Bam and can definitely handle the offensive and defensive responsibilities at the position. Opens up a lot of playing time for our wing rotation too.

I don't see it man. I think Barnes' is much more suited to play PF. If we wanted a C, why didn't we take a full sized one? Why we always taking guys and wanting them to play out of position.

I really, really don't like this pick.

Well I don't think they plan to start CMB at all, I mean he's a rookie. He's a backup 4 right now where Barnes can play 3 during bench minutes, where he'd also play with floor spacers Dick, Jakobe and Ochai. He's an interesting athlete too, bigger than Kawhi but also measured better athletically.

[HumbleRen]

From Nav

[links135]

I don't see it man. I think Barnes' is much more suited to play PF. If we wanted a C, why didn't we take a full sized one? Why we always taking guys and wanting them to play out of position.

I really, really don't like this pick.

Really? I think Barnes' ability to roam and provide weak side rim protection is one of his best defensive traits, he can absolutely hang at the 5 on that end IMO.

It would've been nice to have a more solid answer at the C (even tho we should remember the offseason hasn't even started yet), but I think a rim protection-by-committee approach makes a lot of sense with our roster. The only guys on our roster with a sub 6'8" wingspan are Jamal Shead and the new two-way PG we just signed, we have a lot of length at every position.

If you have a Ja'Kobe/RJ/Ingram/CMB/Scottie line-up, you have all five guys with 6'10"+ wingspans, three guys with 7'0"+ wingspans, and two guys with 7'3"+ wingspans. That's a ton of length and defensive versatility everywhere on the court, and still a lot of size at every position (aside from C).

The defensive versatility is great but at the end of the day can we score efficiently? It seems like every year we keep talking about our lack of offense and shooting and every year we keep compounding it with defense first players. And then the ones who are actually offensively competent we want to get rid of because they don’t play enough defense…

Indiana played great defense all playoffs but let’s not get it twisted they made it as far as they did because of their diverse offensive attack. They have a bunch of guys that can shoot 3s and create offense off the dribble…

And just as a side note to that offensive attack, this is why I’m not high on gradey dick. Not only can’t he play defense, his offense isn’t versatile enough to make him a consistent scorer… his catch and shoot game isn’t elite and he can’t consistently create shots off the dribble because his handle is meh and he gets rattled too easily. I look at someone like nembhard or Mathurin, or guards like Jaylen Williams and I look at dicks game and he just doesn’t look natural or fluid in that type of scorer role.

I mean sure as a full time starter right now (who mind you is still 21).

Also I mean that's why we got Ingram for.... Bruce Brown and Kelly Olynyk.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[WuTang_CMB]

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[earthtone]

I don't see it man. I think Barnes' is much more suited to play PF. If we wanted a C, why didn't we take a full sized one? Why we always taking guys and wanting them to play out of position.

I really, really don't like this pick.

Really? I think Barnes' ability to roam and provide weak side rim protection is one of his best defensive traits, he can absolutely hang at the 5 on that end IMO.

It would've been nice to have a more solid answer at the C (even tho we should remember the offseason hasn't even started yet), but I think a rim protection-by-committee approach makes a lot of sense with our roster. The only guys on our roster with a sub 6'8" wingspan are Jamal Shead and the new two-way PG we just signed, we have a lot of length at every position.

If you have a Ja'Kobe/RJ/Ingram/CMB/Scottie line-up, you have all five guys with 6'10"+ wingspans, three guys with 7'0"+ wingspans, and two guys with 7'3"+ wingspans. That's a ton of length and defensive versatility everywhere on the court, and still a lot of size at every position (aside from C).

The defensive versatility is great but at the end of the day can we score efficiently? It seems like every year we keep talking about our lack of offense and shooting and every year we keep compounding it with defense first players. And then the ones who are actually offensively competent we want to get rid of because they don’t play enough defense…

Indiana played great defense all playoffs but let’s not get it twisted they made it as far as they did because of their diverse offensive attack. They have a bunch of guys that can shoot 3s and create offense off the dribble…

And just as a side note to that offensive attack, this is why I’m not high on gradey dick. Not only can’t he play defense, his offense isn’t versatile enough to make him a consistent scorer… his catch and shoot game isn’t elite and he can’t consistently create shots off the dribble because his handle is meh and he gets rattled too easily. I look at someone like nembhard or Mathurin, or guards like Jaylen Williams and I look at dicks game and he just doesn’t look natural or fluid in that type of scorer role.

Yah, Dick is definitely a different type of player than Nembhard and not in the same league as JDub, but I think it’s way too early to write him off.

I think he’s in the same tier as Mathurin and lowkey projects as a better defender down the line once he adds some more strength.

He had a slump then got injured to end the season so I feel like there’s some recency bias to people’s evaluation on Gradey, but he was showing some amazing things offensively for a second year player before he got injured.

If you look at Cam Johnson and Tyler Herro who I think are probably the two best comps for Gradey, he’s pretty much on par with where they were after two seasons (and much younger than Cam).

Pretty good video on Gradey’s shotmaking from early last season, I think he has the highest offensive ceiling of any of our rookie scale guys

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