What happens to Beal?
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Only possibility of a trades that comes to mind, outside of Lakers is Miami:
Beal for Duncan Robinson, KLove, and Rozier, or something to that effect.
Beal for Duncan Robinson, KLove, and Rozier, or something to that effect.
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GatherStepGuru wrote:Only possibility of a trades that comes to mind, outside of Lakers is Miami:
Beal for Duncan Robinson, KLove, and Rozier, or something to that effect.
Don’t understand taking on Beals contract for the expirings. I think he he is good at basketball but his contract is TOUGH
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jredsaz wrote:GatherStepGuru wrote:Only possibility of a trades that comes to mind, outside of Lakers is Miami:
Beal for Duncan Robinson, KLove, and Rozier, or something to that effect.
Don’t understand taking on Beals contract for the expirings. I think he he is good at basketball but his contract is TOUGH
Any deal like that, I assume, would have to be attached to assets and a 2nd move would be to put Giannis on the table.
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Beal has made it pretty clear he doesn't want to uproot his family and will veto trades.
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Miami would be adding $60+M in guaranteed salary for a guy they couldn't trade when he's an expiring and Phoenix doesn't have any draft capital to compensate Miami for eating Beal's deal.
Miami could get DeRozan for ~$60M less and get the same or better production while giving up something like Robinson or Rozier + a 2nd or something to that effect.
I just can't see any team taking on Beal's deal even if he ok'd a trade.
Miami could get DeRozan for ~$60M less and get the same or better production while giving up something like Robinson or Rozier + a 2nd or something to that effect.
I just can't see any team taking on Beal's deal even if he ok'd a trade.
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Can't see any team outside of those run by inept GMs targeting him
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Looks like this is ending a stretch and waive.
Have been calling this for a few months now much to the disgust of Suns fans. They are going to hate it but it makes too much sense financially.
Have been calling this for a few months now much to the disgust of Suns fans. They are going to hate it but it makes too much sense financially.
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Where too and what type of deal he going to get ???
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Suns will have:
Booker (53), Green (33), Brooks (21), Dunn (3), Mark (6)
Grayson (17), O'Neale (10), Hayes-Davis (2), Maluach (6)
Gillespie (2), Plowden (1), Fleming (2), Oso (2), Richards (5)
Dead salary (23)
186m total is just under the tax line. Suns duck the tax.
Could see Suns adding one more vet min guy as backup PG. Or they move Richards in to capspace and use BAE or MLE on backup PG ($5m)
Booker (53), Green (33), Brooks (21), Dunn (3), Mark (6)
Grayson (17), O'Neale (10), Hayes-Davis (2), Maluach (6)
Gillespie (2), Plowden (1), Fleming (2), Oso (2), Richards (5)
Dead salary (23)
186m total is just under the tax line. Suns duck the tax.
Could see Suns adding one more vet min guy as backup PG. Or they move Richards in to capspace and use BAE or MLE on backup PG ($5m)
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zimpy27 wrote:Looks like this is ending a stretch and waive.
Have been calling this for a few months now much to the disgust of Suns fans. They are going to hate it but it makes too much sense financially.
It’s not a good thing that the Suns have to stretch Beal but as you have stated multiple times, there are benefits to the move. Financially, of course. But frozen picks, trade restrictions, and the Suns desperate need to turn the page all factor in. I wish they could have figured something else out. I do wonder if had they kept him to the deadline would other opportunities open up? Idk. Again, this is hardly ideal but the overreaction from fans and pundits is going to be huge. By years 3/4 of the stretch, $19M will equate to 10% of the cap or less.
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zimpy27 wrote:Suns will have:
Booker (53), Green (33), Brooks (21), Dunn (3), Mark (6)
Grayson (17), O'Neale (10), Hayes-Davis (2), Maluach (6)
Gillespie (2), Plowden (1), Fleming (2), Oso (2), Richards (5)
Dead salary (23)
186m total is just under the tax line. Suns duck the tax.
Could see Suns adding one more vet min guy as backup PG. Or they move Richards in to capspace and use BAE or MLE on backup PG ($5m)
Bringing back CP3 would be awesome
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ThatBoyNick wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Suns will have:
Booker (53), Green (33), Brooks (21), Dunn (3), Mark (6)
Grayson (17), O'Neale (10), Hayes-Davis (2), Maluach (6)
Gillespie (2), Plowden (1), Fleming (2), Oso (2), Richards (5)
Dead salary (23)
186m total is just under the tax line. Suns duck the tax.
Could see Suns adding one more vet min guy as backup PG. Or they move Richards in to capspace and use BAE or MLE on backup PG ($5m)
Bringing back CP3 would be awesome
Melton is another guy I like for the Suns.
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Probably question the benefits for the suns if it’s strictly ducking the tax for a single season. Stretching Beal effectively removes suns at any chance of contending in booker prime.
Hard enough to build a contender under normal rules. Doing it with dead cap is unheard of.
Hard enough to build a contender under normal rules. Doing it with dead cap is unheard of.
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jredsaz wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Looks like this is ending a stretch and waive.
Have been calling this for a few months now much to the disgust of Suns fans. They are going to hate it but it makes too much sense financially.
It’s not a good thing that the Suns have to stretch Beal but as you have stated multiple times, there are benefits to the move. Financially, of course. But frozen picks, trade restrictions, and the Suns desperate need to turn the page all factor in. I wish they could have figured something else out. I do wonder if had they kept him to the deadline would other opportunities open up? Idk. Again, this is hardly ideal but the overreaction from fans and pundits is going to be huge. By years 3/4 of the stretch, $19M will equate to 10% of the cap or less.
Only real way Suns are restricted by the dead salary is if they wanted to become a tax space team. Then it would be annoying to have Booker and this dead space sitting at 45% of cap, you'd barely be able to open a max salary slot in free agency once you account for minimum roster numbers.
Realistically, in 2026 offseason the Suns will have $15m MLE and $5.5m BAE to spend in Free agency. They can stay below 1st apron.
Beyond that they have far more flexibility with trades if they stay below 2nd apron.
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kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Probably question the benefits for the suns if it’s strictly ducking the tax for a single season. Stretching Beal effectively removes suns at any chance of contending in booker prime.
Hard enough to build a contender under normal rules. Doing it with dead cap is unheard of.
Stretching Beal isn’t only about ducking the tax. It’s about ducking the aprons and the restrictions they impose on teams.
All stars much less all nba players don’t get to free agency anymore. Raw cap space and operating under the actual salary cap is less beneficial than it used to be. Just look at the Nets. Having assets and tradable salary (not even necessarily expiring contracts) is the better avenue.
Suns did a great job of adding young talent that can become quality assets and they have Green, Brooks, Allen and Royce as potential tradeable salary. That said, right now they are very short on assets to carry out a big trade.
In the end, the $19M per over five years still sucks but Ishbia is clearly fine busting through aprons if he thinks he can build a contender. It will end up as +/- 10% of the cap soon. It’s not great but it’s not franchise crushing and doesn’t necessarily, in its self, kill Bookers prime.
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Beal to…. The Nuggets!?!?!
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Id be really okay with trading Klay/Prosper/2nds for cap space and giving Beal 7.5~ mil if it’s not too late to call DLO part of the MLE versus the taxMLE..
(Would be okay with trading PJ for a protected first, dumping Hardy and giving Beal 8.5 mil..)
(Would be okay with trading PJ for a protected first, dumping Hardy and giving Beal 8.5 mil..)
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Beal should decide where he wants to live (back to dc, ny, la, whatever), chill until January and then pick the team with ring hopes where he fits. Only be away from family for 3-4 months and gets a good ring chance.
Family is big to him. Might choose la just to meet stars?
Family is big to him. Might choose la just to meet stars?
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