2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[fallguy]

What type of trade would I do with the Kings for Brown?

I'm glad you asked, very thoughtful.

Brown for Derozan, Murray, 2026 Unprotected First (the West is stacked, Sacramento would be one injury away from finishing high up in the Lottery), 2027 Pick Swap, 2028 Unprotected Kings First, 2029 Pick Swap, 2030 First (Top 4 Protected), 2031 Wolves First.

That's about right. I'm not even concerned about Second Rounders, but I suppose the Kings could toss a few of them to the Celtics too...

I *am* intrigued at the idea of owning half a decade of the Kings' draft.

[RickyDizzle]

New idea for modified Jrue trade:

Bulls get RWIII, Tillman, and Simons
Portland gets Jrue
Boston gets Dosunmu and Vucevic

Portland essentially trades RWIII for the 2 2nds they were supposed to give us. And we essentially trade those potential 2 seconds for the opportunity to turn Simons into Dosunmu and Vuc.

White, Dosunmu, Pritchard, and some JB is solid at guard spots. You then finally add a decent big even though he sucks at defense.

Dosunmu and Vooch will just equal Simons and Tillman.

No cap savings and that's the goal.

Just Vooch for Simons is good enough.

Well it saves the same money as the original Jrue trade because Simons and Tillman make the same as Dosunmu and Vooch combined. So if the trade happens once and saves a fixed amount of savings, would you rather have vooch and dosumu or Simons... for me we need a big. So given the trade has the same cap effect, I like the 2nd version better.

[Jellybeans]

Luke would be dumb turning down big payday to stay here when hes allready 30.
First big payday

[djFan71]

I hope we don't use draft picks to dump Simons just so we can sign Luke Kornet to an 8 figure per annum deal and do the same with Al Horford who turns 40 yrs old next yr.

I think we're way more likely to need all our draft picks (plus more) to build another contender around JT and burning any picks to open space for Luke and Al just makes the team building challenge of a Jays 2.0 (or even just JT 2.0) championship much much much harder

if it comes down to burning a first or two firsts to dump Simons/Niang, Id rather move Derrick and get firsts coming back in because then we're still gonna have the ammo to build a team around Tatum.

Just let Luke and Al go.

Simons should be neutral to slightly positive, imo. You get something decent like Gafford and filler salary back, Or to Charlotte for Green, okogie and a 1st or several 2nds and save money. Something on that spectrum. But somehow Brad will do better, lol.

I don’t see it as a pay a dump scenario. More, who can use a guy like Simon’s and can we get an asset and/or save a little money.

I really wanna trade him just so stupid autocorrect won’t keep making it Simon’s every time I use his name - and I’m sure not typing out his first name. Lose lose.

[djFan71]

OKC has their Springer. No front office is perfect. They paid 5 seconds to get him last year.

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[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

What type of trade would I do with the Kings for Brown?

I'm glad you asked, very thoughtful.

Brown for Derozan, Murray, 2026 Unprotected First (the West is stacked, Sacramento would be one injury away from finishing high up in the Lottery), 2027 Pick Swap, 2028 Unprotected Kings First, 2029 Pick Swap, 2030 First (Top 4 Protected), 2031 Wolves First.

That's about right. I'm not even concerned about Second Rounders, but I suppose the Kings could toss a few of them to the Celtics too...

I *am* intrigued at the idea of owning half a decade of the Kings' draft.

If you trade Brown, the Celtics are definitely in the Lottery and with luck, the Kings could also be for the 2026 Draft.Plenty of ammunition to trade
for either Jokic or Giannis.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

OKC has their Springer. No front office is perfect. They paid 5 seconds to get him last year.

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Mann, Poku, Dieng (remember when Presti moved up to take him before Jalen Williams ?)... To be clear, Presti has had way more success than the average GM in the draft but he has had plenty of misses as well. The thing is that he is smart enough to understand that the key is volume. Unlike some posters here who think that Stevens sucks because the 53d pick he had a few seasons ago didn't instantly turn into a starter on an NBA contender.

[Cricket23]

I see Boston as having 4 starting level players on a contending team. Some may argue that Pritchard is a 5th but I believe he's a 6th man on a high level team. If they trade one of them (Simons?), then they need to get one back. The only way they can not do that and contend in the near future is if they get multiple starters or ways to acquire them in a Brown trade. I'm not talking about starters who are a stopgap like Vooch or someone they would let walk in FA. This talk of trading Simons for smaller salaried players isn't going to cut it without a larger plan in place. They cannot be stuck with just the Jays and White, not be willing to go into the 2nd apron, and expect to contend anytime soon.

[Celts17Pride]

What type of trade would I do with the Kings for Brown?

I'm glad you asked, very thoughtful.

Brown for Derozan, Murray, 2026 Unprotected First (the West is stacked, Sacramento would be one injury away from finishing high up in the Lottery), 2027 Pick Swap, 2028 Unprotected Kings First, 2029 Pick Swap, 2030 First (Top 4 Protected), 2031 Wolves First.

That's about right. I'm not even concerned about Second Rounders, but I suppose the Kings could toss a few of them to the Celtics too...

I *am* intrigued at the idea of owning half a decade of the Kings' draft.

If you trade Brown, the Celtics are definitely in the Lottery and with luck, the Kings could also be for the 2026 Draft.Plenty of ammunition to trade
for either Jokic or Giannis.

Brown is not getting traded to the Kings. Garbage deal and Sabonis is so overrated on this board. What has he ever done except get numbers on garbage teams? Indy didn’t take off until after they moved Sabonis

[phincsfan]

The one player that won't be traded by the Kings is Murray.

I don't have a problem with Sabonis's play but he's not a max contract I'd want with the C's situation.

Nets should trade Claxton and Johnson for him.

[ConstableGeneva]

Now that we will have less talent 'cos of the financial restrictions, the challenge is on Joe and the Jays -- how to make their teammates better with a system that empowers everyone and elevates everyone's play. Pacers and OKC are two teams that enabled their non-stars to perform well when it counted. C's gotta find a way to do the same with a revamped roster. Stevens was able to reach ECF with probably equal or less talent in 2017, 2018, and 2020. Need to see Cs become greater than the sum of its parts again.

(No, I'm not expecting us to make the conference finals this coming season, but I'm willing to be surprised.)

[NotAKnicksFan]

Kornet isnt that good, i could care less if he leaves for more money , 3-6-7 mil per year fine but no more than that. Hes a backup

Al horford almost feel the same, hes too old, 1 or 2 ye contract 6-9 mil a year

So those 2 anchored a team with 60 wins, but now they aren't good. They were our centers last year. Not KP.'


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Kornet did not anchor anything he avg 18 mpg 6 ppg 5 rpg

Horford sure , but hes now a year older as well

We didnt really need an anchor at center to win 60 games

Theres not that many teams that exploit a weak center position overall

[phincsfan]

Now that we will have less talent 'cos of the financial restrictions, the challenge is on Joe and the Jays -- how to make their teammates better with a system that empowers everyone and elevates everyone's play. Pacers and OKC are two teams that enabled their non-stars to perform well when it counted. C's gotta find a way to do the same with a revamped roster. Stevens was able to reach ECF with probably equal or less talent in 2017, 2018, and 2020. Need to see Cs become greater than the sum of its parts again.

(No, I'm not expecting us to make the conference finals this coming season, but I'm willing to be surprised.)

I think you mean "Joe and the Jay".

Not much JT can do from the trainers table.

Stevens is a great coach who can bring a team to the playoffs with Angel Reece on the roster and getting some minutes.

I don't trust Joe can do much with this roster.

Stevens cleared things up the other day with Joe's contract situation saying he has multiple years left on his current contract.

This roster, if Simons and Niang stick around is one that should at least get into the play in. Stevens knows that and if Joe falls on his face I'd hope they move on from him and get ready for JT's return in 26'. Completely new start maybe with Cassell getting his first crack at it.

[NotAKnicksFan]

You dont trade simons for freaking vucevic, vuc is attrocious at basketball

And simons is a savant?

Rather simons, athletic and can shoot, theres potential there

Not a slow tree stump euro drummond who shoots 3s but gives up points in bunches on the other end

[phincsfan]

The 26' draft will be 40 years since Bias passed away. Maybe the league can do some Luka magic and work the ping pong balls in favor of the C's.

I don't know much about AJ Dybantsa, but he's a Brockton kid.

[flintsky21]

Can Simons be rerouted before July 6 or do we have to wait for that date (when trade with Portland becomes official?)

[cloverleaf]

I see Boston as having 4 starting level players on a contending team. Some may argue that Pritchard is a 5th but I believe he's a 6th man on a high level team. If they trade one of them (Simons?), then they need to get one back. The only way they can not do that and contend in the near future is if they get multiple starters or ways to acquire them in a Brown trade. I'm not talking about starters who are a stopgap like Vooch or someone they would let walk in FA. This talk of trading Simons for smaller salaried players isn't going to cut it without a larger plan in place. They cannot be stuck with just the Jays and White, not be willing to go into the 2nd apron, and expect to contend anytime soon.

Did you not get the memo on the new owners' cost cutting?

[Fierce1]

Can Simons be rerouted before July 6 or do we have to wait for that date (when trade with Portland becomes official?)

He can be rerouted now.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Several teams seem to be interested...

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[playa-hater]

Several teams seem to be interested...

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I'd be most happy for Kornet with SAS. Hiss passing and Wemby would work great together. Plus SAS cuts and moves so much better than Boston. Luke will stand out more offensively over there.