2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[djsunyc]

We need to trade RJ






Kings want a PF to support Murray, who thrived at SF earlier.
Raps want C & PG backups, while ducking the tax.
Bulls want to cash out on Vucevic before his FA.



Sacramento in: Pat Williams, ‘26 1st (lower of CHI/POR, lotto prot.)
Sacramento out: Devin Carter, Jonas Valanciunas


Toronto in: Devin Carter, Jonas Valanciunas
Toronto out: RJ Barrett


Chicago in: RJ Barrett
Chicago out: Pat Williams, ‘26 1st (lower of CHI/POR, lotto prot.)



Sacramento gets a PF w/ Defense + an extra pick for another trade.
Toronto gets a familiar C and a young PG. Carter is a decent lotto pick who couldn’t play much behind Monk/Fox/Lavine.
Chicago gets a young wing, and open up PT for Buzelis.

rj for carter and jv is a huge steal for the kings. rj is a much better player than both of them. if that's the deal now, you don't make it and wait for something else. we have pgs and jonas would hurt our defensive identity. would rather just play mogbo or cmb there.

[CazOnReal]

The RJ/Patrick Williams trade that's frequently tossed around is the one which makes the most sense for both teams. RJ is a good player but he needs the ball in his hands to be at his most effective and he'll probably get those touches playing off of Kiddey. Patrick Williams needs a change of scenery and perhaps a change in role. The Raptors don't need an extra first...but they probably want one so they can go 5/5 for trading away 1st round picks at the deadline.

[djsunyc]

The RJ/Patrick Williams trade that's frequently tossed around is the one which makes the most sense for both teams. RJ is a good player but he needs the ball in his hands to be at his most effective. Patrick Williams needs a change of scenery and perhaps a change in role. The Raptors don't need an extra first...but they probably want one so they can go 5/5 for trading away 1st round picks at the deadline.

you are adding 2 years of salary. it was not rumored. it was a suggestion on twitter. much worse player on a worse contract. if we aren't getting serious draft compensation, its an awful trade.

the only legit rumors were rj + 9 for an upgrade. that ship has sailed so now it needs to be talent based and pwill isnt it...and we just drafted cmb.

[ArthurVandelay]

The RJ/Patrick Williams trade that's frequently tossed around is the one which makes the most sense for both teams. RJ is a good player but he needs the ball in his hands to be at his most effective. Patrick Williams needs a change of scenery and perhaps a change in role. The Raptors don't need an extra first...but they probably want one so they can go 5/5 for trading away 1st round picks at the deadline.

you are adding 2 years of salary. it was not rumored. it was a suggestion on twitter. much worse player on a worse contract. if we aren't getting serious draft compensation, its an awful trade.

the only legit rumors were rj + 9 for an upgrade. that ship has sailed so now it needs to be talent based and pwill isnt it...and we just drafted cmb.

Zach Collins is the only 0layer that makes sense on the bulls for Toronto.

[LoveMyRaps]

Is there a S&T that we can work out with the Bucks?

Read on Twitter

Brook would be the perfect backup center for this team. Doubt we can sign him to a vet min, because otherwise he'd just sign to a contender.

[Bull-E]

Bring back Branden Carlson on a minimum, guaranteed deal. We need a stretch big more than anything else and this guy is one of the best 7 foot shooters in the world.

At this point, it's more about creating lineup versatility than getting one main backup guy. Any of Carlson, CMB, Mogbo, Chomche, Castleton or even Omoruyi should be able to be effective in the role depending on matchup.

[Thaddy]

Collins, Carter, and 2026 POR 1st for RJ?

Poeltl / Collins / Chomche
Barnes / CMB / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle / Hepburn (2W)
Agbaji / Dick / Walter / Martin (2W)
Quickely / Shead / Carter / Temple

That could be a competitive team next year. We fill some important holes and get insurance for several positions.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Collins, Carter, and 2026 POR 1st for RJ?

Poeltl / Collins / Chomche
Barnes / CMB / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle / Hepburn (2W)
Agbaji / Dick / Walter / Martin (2W)
Quickely / Shead / Carter / Temple

That could be a competitive team next year. We fill some important holes and get insurance for several positions.

Bulls just acquired Okoro and have Buzelis, Terry, White, unless they are bringing them all off the bench or something

[Appostis]

I wonder if Khaman Maluach & Maxime Raynaud will be getting the same love in December as they are in June?

Two centers, a position that is notorious for taking years to develop... Nah.. they'll be in the running for ROY. No doubt.

I'm even a fan of both those picks but you're blind if you don't think it's going to be a few years before they show any real impact.

[Appostis]

The RJ/Patrick Williams trade that's frequently tossed around is the one which makes the most sense for both teams. RJ is a good player but he needs the ball in his hands to be at his most effective and he'll probably get those touches playing off of Kiddey. Patrick Williams needs a change of scenery and perhaps a change in role. The Raptors don't need an extra first...but they probably want one so they can go 5/5 for trading away 1st round picks at the deadline.

What about PW has you thinking he's on RJs level...

[CazOnReal]

The RJ/Patrick Williams trade that's frequently tossed around is the one which makes the most sense for both teams. RJ is a good player but he needs the ball in his hands to be at his most effective and he'll probably get those touches playing off of Kiddey. Patrick Williams needs a change of scenery and perhaps a change in role. The Raptors don't need an extra first...but they probably want one so they can go 5/5 for trading away 1st round picks at the deadline.

What about PW has you thinking he's on RJs level...

I never said he was. Only thing I will say is the Bulls are notoriously awful at developing their talent outside of Ayo and White, and I don't think it's a coincidence Lauri and Wendell thrived after they left Chicago.

[Appostis]

The RJ/Patrick Williams trade that's frequently tossed around is the one which makes the most sense for both teams. RJ is a good player but he needs the ball in his hands to be at his most effective and he'll probably get those touches playing off of Kiddey. Patrick Williams needs a change of scenery and perhaps a change in role. The Raptors don't need an extra first...but they probably want one so they can go 5/5 for trading away 1st round picks at the deadline.

What about PW has you thinking he's on RJs level...

I never said he was. Only thing I will say is the Bulls are notoriously awful at developing their talent outside of Ayo and White, and I don't think it's a coincidence Lauri and Wendell thrived after they left Chicago.

Did Wendell thrive? Did I miss this?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cartewe01.html

Seems like the same player..just in his prime.

But yes they are awful at developing players...and of PW was on any form of a good deal I can see that being worth the risk.. actually would love it as a potential swing. But he's on a pretty awful deal and has not shown anything.

[bballsparkin]

Zach Collins is the only 0layer that makes sense on the bulls for Toronto.

RJ + Battle for Vuv and Ayo. I like it from the Raptors perspective. Put Vuv with Barnes and CMB that could be fun.

[DreamTeam09]

Charles Bassey would be a good back-up 5 that's probably vet minimum worthy.

Jakob 28-30mins
Bassey 8-10 mins
Barnes/CMB/Mogbo 8-12 mins

48mins of C play

[Landomar]

Charles Bassey would be a good back-up 5 that's probably vet minimum worthy.

Jakob 28-30mins
Bassey 8-10 mins
Barnes/CMB/Mogbo 8-12 mins

48mins of C play

I like Bassey a lot. I wanted him in his draft year, and while he's battled injuries quite a bit, he has pretty good advanced stats in his limited NBA minutes so far.

Barnes / CMB / Mogbo
Poeltl / Bassey

I'd be happy trying that out. Would ideally have a 3rd C also, but not sure how to fit one in now that Temple was brought back. Would have to trade somebody else to make space.

[Landomar]

Collins, Carter, and 2026 POR 1st for RJ?

Poeltl / Collins / Chomche
Barnes / CMB / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle / Hepburn (2W)
Agbaji / Dick / Walter / Martin (2W)
Quickely / Shead / Carter / Temple

That could be a competitive team next year. We fill some important holes and get insurance for several positions.

Bulls just acquired Okoro and have Buzelis, Terry, White, unless they are bringing them all off the bench or something

The Bulls have a full roster right now, but decent flexibility. White, Vucevic, and Giddey are their only true starters.

*assuming they re-sign Giddey

Vucevic / Collins / Olbrich
Williams / Smith / Essengue
Buzelis / Okoro / Phillips
Giddey* / Huerter / Terry
White / Dosunmu / Carter

If they traded Collins, Carter, and a 1st for Barrett

Vucevic / Smith / Olbrich
Buzelis / Williams / Essengue
Barrett / Okoro / Phillips
Giddey* / Huerter / Terry
White / Dosunmu

[HMFFL]

The RJ/Patrick Williams trade that's frequently tossed around is the one which makes the most sense for both teams. RJ is a good player but he needs the ball in his hands to be at his most effective and he'll probably get those touches playing off of Kiddey. Patrick Williams needs a change of scenery and perhaps a change in role. The Raptors don't need an extra first...but they probably want one so they can go 5/5 for trading away 1st round picks at the deadline.

What about PW has you thinking he's on RJs level...

I never said he was. Only thing I will say is the Bulls are notoriously awful at developing their talent outside of Ayo and White, and I don't think it's a coincidence Lauri and Wendell thrived after they left Chicago.

I wouldn't use the term thriving when referring to Lauri or Wendell Carter Jr. Both seem to not be accomplishing much personal success at all. The exception being money since Lauri is being paid over $40m per year and being benched. Wendell Carter Jr is regressing in most areas of his game and stats.

The Bulls gambled and failed. Patrick Williams is just a failure. Matas Buzelis most likely develops into a serviceable talent for their frontcourt.

[HMFFL]

Collins, Carter, and 2026 POR 1st for RJ?

Poeltl / Collins / Chomche
Barnes / CMB / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle / Hepburn (2W)
Agbaji / Dick / Walter / Martin (2W)
Quickely / Shead / Carter / Temple

That could be a competitive team next year. We fill some important holes and get insurance for several positions.

Bulls just acquired Okoro and have Buzelis, Terry, White, unless they are bringing them all off the bench or something

The Bulls have a full roster right now, but decent flexibility. White, Vucevic, and Giddey are their only true starters.

*assuming they re-sign Giddey

Vucevic / Collins / Olbrich
Williams / Smith / Essengue
Buzelis / Okoro / Phillips
Giddey* / Huerter / Terry
White / Dosunmu / Carter

If they traded Collins, Carter, and a 1st for Barrett

Vucevic / Smith / Olbrich
Buzelis / Williams / Essengue
Barrett / Okoro / Phillips
Giddey* / Huerter / Terry
White / Dosunmu

RJ Barrett doesn't make sense for Chicago so they'll never do that deal. Any talent at the 3, 4, and 5 positions need to have length and RJ doesn't serve a purpose for them. He would be a setback.

[Duffman100]

RJ for John Collin's likely makes little sense for Utah unless we send an asset for them to take on the extra year of contract?

[CazOnReal]

RJ for John Collin's likely makes little sense for Utah unless we send an asset for them to take on the extra year of contract?

They just traded the better player and a 2nd for Jusuf Nurkic

Nothing with Utah makes sense right now