The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

[lilfishi22]

Zach Lowe:

“Some people around the league have suggested to me the Miami Heat could turn like Duncan Robinson plus Terry Rozier plus whatever into Bradley Beal. The Heat have had chances to get Beal before and haven't done it. Is the price that low gonna entice them?”

Beal for Duncan, Rozier and Haywood Highsmith works. I'd do this in a heartbeat, hell I'd even throw them a 2nd if we got any left.

This would get Beal off the team AND $46.6m off the books next offseason with Duncan and Rozier on expiring contracts

[starbosa10]

Zach Lowe:

“Some people around the league have suggested to me the Miami Heat could turn like Duncan Robinson plus Terry Rozier plus whatever into Bradley Beal. The Heat have had chances to get Beal before and haven't done it. Is the price that low gonna entice them?”

Beal for Duncan, Rozier and Haywood Highsmith works. I'd do this in a heartbeat, hell I'd even throw them a 2nd if we got any left.

This would get Beal off the team AND $46.6m off the books next offseason with Duncan and Rozier on expiring contracts

Would be incredible, I think we have 1-2 tradable seconds left.

Edit: don't think they even need to add highsmith for salary, at least robinson/rozier for Beal was working spotrac just now. Not taking back highsmith would save money towards getting under the 2nd apron this year

[Saberestar]

Zach Lowe:

Beal for Duncan, Rozier and Haywood Highsmith works. I'd do this in a heartbeat, hell I'd even throw them a 2nd if we got any left.

This would get Beal off the team AND $46.6m off the books next offseason with Duncan and Rozier on expiring contracts

Would be incredible, I think we have 1-2 tradable seconds left.

Edit: don't think they even need to add highsmith for salary, at least robinson/rozier for Beal was working spotrac just now. Not taking back highsmith would save money towards getting under the 2nd apron this year

What do you guys think about trading Oso to facilitate Beal's trade?

I like Oso but I don't like him enough to stop a Beal's trade if he can give us some asset to facilitate the deal.

We can probably can get a FRP (with lottery protections or with swaps) from a team with cap space and that FRP can go to the team acquiring Beal.

We can do the exact same thing with Richards but I think we can get better value for Oso.

Well...we know more about it in the next couple of days.

[Bogyo]

Beal for Duncan, Rozier and Haywood Highsmith works. I'd do this in a heartbeat, hell I'd even throw them a 2nd if we got any left.

This would get Beal off the team AND $46.6m off the books next offseason with Duncan and Rozier on expiring contracts

Would be incredible, I think we have 1-2 tradable seconds left.

Edit: don't think they even need to add highsmith for salary, at least robinson/rozier for Beal was working spotrac just now. Not taking back highsmith would save money towards getting under the 2nd apron this year

What do you guys think about trading Oso to facilitate Beal's trade?

I like Oso but I don't like him enough to stop a Beal's trade if he can give us some asset to facilitate the deal.

We can probably can get a FRP (with lottery protections or with swaps) from a team with cap space and that FRP can go to the team acquiring Beal.

We can do the exact same thing with Richards but I think we can get better value for Oso.

Well...we know more about it in the next couple of days.

I was never that high on him due to his size and shooting (lack of both to be exact). So if anyone gives us anything or he can facilitate another trade I'm all for it.

[Frank Lee]

Any story that’s starts with…’some people around the league have suggested….’
is clickbait.

[BobbieL]

Zach Lowe:

“Some people around the league have suggested to me the Miami Heat could turn like Duncan Robinson plus Terry Rozier plus whatever into Bradley Beal. The Heat have had chances to get Beal before and haven't done it. Is the price that low gonna entice them?”

Beal for Duncan, Rozier and Haywood Highsmith works. I'd do this in a heartbeat, hell I'd even throw them a 2nd if we got any left.

This would get Beal off the team AND $46.6m off the books next offseason with Duncan and Rozier on expiring contracts

Why would Riley do this for a second round pick? He is taking on 57m of salary next year plus a bit more this year. He can just let Rozier and Duncan expire. My guess he uses the expiring to get like DeMar DeRozan

Hell he can probably offer a buyout and save even more money

Until I see it… there is zero market for Beal

[Ghost of Kleine]

What I'd be focused in on would be the Washington Wizards! Again, Marcus Smart would be ideal in a trade (on a 22 million expiring contract).

Something along the lines of O'neale/ Martin/ Richards/ CLE 27' 1st for Smart/ PHX 26' 2nd ( back) or CHI 26' 2nd.

** This would give them a depth piece/ asset/ insurance behind Middleton at the SF. And a much better value center option on a cheaper contract than Holmes.

Martin is already an expiring contract, do they wouldn't lose any flexibility really. And they get our last 1st as an incentive for taking back O'neales' 10 million contract.

For us, We'd get a very solid low usage utility vet that matches our culture direction that doesn't need the ball to be effective. And is on am expiring contract which could be bought out if we choose. And we get another 2nd in next year's loaded draft.

They also have Olynyk on a 13 million expiring contract. But he can't be traded until around the deadline.

[BobbieL]

What I'd be focused in on would be the Washington Wizards! Again, Marcus Smart would be ideal in a trade (on a 22 million expiring contract).

Something along the lines of O'neale/ Martin/ Richards/ CLE 27' 1st for Smart/ PHX 26' 2nd ( back) or CHI 26' 2nd.

** This would give them a depth piece/ asset/ insurance behind Middleton at the SF. And a much better value center option on a cheaper contract than Holmes.

Martin is already an expiring contract, do they wouldn't lose any flexibility really. And they get our last 1st as an incentive for taking back O'neales' 10 million contract.

For us, We'd get a very solid low usage utility vet that matches our culture direction that doesn't need the ball to be effective. And is on am expiring contract which could be bought out if we choose. And we get another 2nd in next year's loaded draft.

They also have Olynyk on a 13 million expiring contract. But he can't be traded until around the deadline.

The Suns cannot do a multi player trade until they get below certain apron levels. So how do they do that

1) Beal agrees to be stretched for five years -- which would be stupid

2) the Suns move below the aprons by trading Richards, releasing Martin and maybe moving O'Neale for a TPE


Suns just need to do everything they can to not stretch Beal. If that means this year is kind of lean, so be it.

O'Neal, Martin, Richards and Allen are 40m - hopefully they can trim that down to 15m - maybe 20
Get them in between the apron levels I believe and ride out the year with the growth of Williams and Green, and maturation of Fleming, Maulauch, etc

[Sunsdeuce]

Beal for Duncan, Rozier and Haywood Highsmith works. I'd do this in a heartbeat, hell I'd even throw them a 2nd if we got any left.

This would get Beal off the team AND $46.6m off the books next offseason with Duncan and Rozier on expiring contracts

Would be incredible, I think we have 1-2 tradable seconds left.

Edit: don't think they even need to add highsmith for salary, at least robinson/rozier for Beal was working spotrac just now. Not taking back highsmith would save money towards getting under the 2nd apron this year

What do you guys think about trading Oso to facilitate Beal's trade?

I like Oso but I don't like him enough to stop a Beal's trade if he can give us some asset to facilitate the deal.

We can probably can get a FRP (with lottery protections or with swaps) from a team with cap space and that FRP can go to the team acquiring Beal.

We can do the exact same thing with Richards but I think we can get better value for Oso.

Well...we know more about it in the next couple of days.

I’d dump Oso in a heartbeat. Dude has no skill set. Nothing. hes a G-leaguer at best. All he has is hustle. Those type of players are a dime a dozen in the developmental league. He was a hustle player on a bad suns team that got people excited because he actually tried unlike our two main stars. .

[Sunsdeuce]

Keith Smith via Bluesky

The Phoenix Suns have picked up their $8.1M team 2025-26 team option for Vasilije Micic. This was necessary to complete the Mark Williams trade.

The Suns also tendered a two-way qualifying offer to Collin Gillespie. Gillespie will now be a restricted free agent on July 1.

[BobbieL]

Would be incredible, I think we have 1-2 tradable seconds left.

Edit: don't think they even need to add highsmith for salary, at least robinson/rozier for Beal was working spotrac just now. Not taking back highsmith would save money towards getting under the 2nd apron this year

What do you guys think about trading Oso to facilitate Beal's trade?

I like Oso but I don't like him enough to stop a Beal's trade if he can give us some asset to facilitate the deal.

We can probably can get a FRP (with lottery protections or with swaps) from a team with cap space and that FRP can go to the team acquiring Beal.

We can do the exact same thing with Richards but I think we can get better value for Oso.

Well...we know more about it in the next couple of days.

I’d dump Oso in a heartbeat. Dude has no skill set. Nothing. hes a G-leaguer at best. All he has is hustle. Those type of players are a dime a dozen in the developmental league. He was a hustle player on a bad suns team that got people excited because he actually tried unlike our two main stars. .

If the Suns can get a FRP pick for Richards and maybe another pick or two from Oso and lastly, maybe a couple seconds and a TPE for O'Neale -- I wonder if the picks would be enticing to Riley at that point. I just don't think he will trade Rozier and Robinson without some decent draft picks going to Miami.

Suns can't use the TPE to add to the trade -but not taking on salary for O'neale would be the prize.

[Sunsdeuce]

What do you guys think about trading Oso to facilitate Beal's trade?

I like Oso but I don't like him enough to stop a Beal's trade if he can give us some asset to facilitate the deal.

We can probably can get a FRP (with lottery protections or with swaps) from a team with cap space and that FRP can go to the team acquiring Beal.

We can do the exact same thing with Richards but I think we can get better value for Oso.

Well...we know more about it in the next couple of days.

I’d dump Oso in a heartbeat. Dude has no skill set. Nothing. hes a G-leaguer at best. All he has is hustle. Those type of players are a dime a dozen in the developmental league. He was a hustle player on a bad suns team that got people excited because he actually tried unlike our two main stars. .

If the Suns can get a FRP pick for Richards and maybe another pick or two from Oso and lastly, maybe a couple seconds and a TPE for O'Neale -- I wonder if the picks would be enticing to Riley at that point. I just don't think he will trade Rozier and Robinson without some decent draft picks going to Miami.

Suns can't use the TPE to add to the trade -but not taking on salary for O'neale would be the prize.

I think the Suns need to shoot for a FRP. Bane hasn’t been to a single all-star game and he was 4 FRP. Richard should demand at least 1. Get some assets. At this point, no more selling low. Suns have the leverage with these center needy teams. Use it.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Zach Lowe:

Beal for Duncan, Rozier and Haywood Highsmith works. I'd do this in a heartbeat, hell I'd even throw them a 2nd if we got any left.

This would get Beal off the team AND $46.6m off the books next offseason with Duncan and Rozier on expiring contracts

Why would Riley do this for a second round pick? He is taking on 57m of salary next year plus a bit more this year. He can just let Rozier and Duncan expire. My guess he uses the expiring to get like DeMar DeRozan

Hell he can probably offer a buyout and save even more money

Until I see it… there is zero market for Beal

We need to just exercise patience with the plan around Beal! Hold onto him and utilize him (off the bench) as a super 6th man nuclear scoring option to help give out bench offensive potency and depth.

Right now we have a much better defensive balance. But have lost significant scoring potency from trading KD. Booker and J Green can't be expected to carry our offensive load! But Beal is still a very strong scorer and is very efficient still too.

I think it's very important to not overlook or undervalue that ability. We need to hold onto him, and let him scorch other teams' bench units and showcase himself this next season to hopefully rebuild value as a trade asset!!

And if a solid offer materializes, then great! We'll explore it. If not, then we'll still have a HUGE 57 MILLION EXPIRING come off our books to be major players in 27 free agency.

[Saberestar]

What do you guys think about trading Oso to facilitate Beal's trade?

I like Oso but I don't like him enough to stop a Beal's trade if he can give us some asset to facilitate the deal.

We can probably can get a FRP (with lottery protections or with swaps) from a team with cap space and that FRP can go to the team acquiring Beal.

We can do the exact same thing with Richards but I think we can get better value for Oso.

Well...we know more about it in the next couple of days.

I’d dump Oso in a heartbeat. Dude has no skill set. Nothing. hes a G-leaguer at best. All he has is hustle. Those type of players are a dime a dozen in the developmental league. He was a hustle player on a bad suns team that got people excited because he actually tried unlike our two main stars. .

If the Suns can get a FRP pick for Richards and maybe another pick or two from Oso and lastly, maybe a couple seconds and a TPE for O'Neale -- I wonder if the picks would be enticing to Riley at that point. I just don't think he will trade Rozier and Robinson without some decent draft picks going to Miami.

Suns can't use the TPE to add to the trade -but not taking on salary for O'neale would be the prize.

I don't think Richards or Oso are THAT valuable.

Like I said I think we can get a superlow FRP for Oso ( like our 2029 FRP that we traded for Mark W) but not more than that.

Richards...he isn't that good. Decent backup C at best. Yeah, a couple of 2nds is attainable for him, I can't imagine getting more than that.

Regarding Pat Riley and Beal I think that Pat Riley probably is OK trading for him because he is an upgrade over Rozier and Duncan Robinson as a player.

For us is different because we are trying to build something new around Book and Beal out of the roster would be an addition by subtraction.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I’d dump Oso in a heartbeat. Dude has no skill set. Nothing. hes a G-leaguer at best. All he has is hustle. Those type of players are a dime a dozen in the developmental league. He was a hustle player on a bad suns team that got people excited because he actually tried unlike our two main stars. .

If the Suns can get a FRP pick for Richards and maybe another pick or two from Oso and lastly, maybe a couple seconds and a TPE for O'Neale -- I wonder if the picks would be enticing to Riley at that point. I just don't think he will trade Rozier and Robinson without some decent draft picks going to Miami.

Suns can't use the TPE to add to the trade -but not taking on salary for O'neale would be the prize.

I think the Suns need to shoot for a FRP. Bane hasn’t been to a single all-star game and he was 4 FRP. Richard should demand at least 1. Get some assets. At this point, no more selling low. Suns have the leverage with these center needy teams. Use it.

For sure! In that desire for a first returning value, we need to be very selective and target teams that are desperate for a cost effective center option. And that have 1sts to burn. Even teams with a very solid starting center option ( like Memphis)?? That have a great starting center option, but absolutely lack depth at the position behind him.


Or possibly even Brooklyn, so they can more confidently trade Claxton for other assets if Richards truly isn't that far removed from Ckaxtons' skillset either??

Lastly, maybe Golden State?? They'll really be trying to make some key moves and still don't have any legitimate size at the center spot. And puzzlingly didn't address it via the draft either.

[Saberestar]

Keith Smith:

The Phoenix Suns have picked up their $8.1M team 2025-26 team option for Vasilije Micic. This was necessary to complete the Mark Williams trade.

The Suns also tendered a two-way qualifying offer to Collin Gillespie. Gillespie will now be a restricted free agent on July 1.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Sunsdeuce]

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Oh please. Give me a break. Rich Paul thinks too highly of himself. He had no control of where he went.

During the draft, NBA agents have almost no control. Unless you are the concenus #1 pick in the draft, you have no control where your player goes. Just ask Ace Bailey. You go where you are drafted. Rich Paul thinks he’s more than he is now that he has all that money he got riding the coat tails of LeBron. Rich Paul sure didn’t get all that money on his own and work his way up to the top on his own. Sometimes it’s who you know, not what you know and Rich is the prime example.

[Phnxsports]

Only news I'm looking for today/early tomorrow is the decision on Martin. His option becomes guaranteed the 30th. Is it declined outright or picked up because they found a deal?

[BobbieL]

Only news I'm looking for today/early tomorrow is the decision on Martin. His option becomes guaranteed the 30th. Is it declined outright or picked up because they found a deal?

Martin and Richards are easy

It’s Royce and Allen - those will take time