The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

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BUT this proves one thing. Gambo was 100% wrong on his info. His “Gambo 5” was (to quote the goat, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who played Dutch from Predator)….”It's all bullsh$&, all of it”

Khaman Maluach Was on the Suns radar. This disproves “Gambo’s 5” This disproves the Suns “didn’t think they could get Khaman Maluach”. The suns definitely thought they could get Khaman Maluach so much so they were calling his agent.

This is why I very much dislike Gambo as a human being. He’s a liar and he feeds off his lies. He got caught in another lie and made up a lie to cover his lie. He relies on lies to build his ego and his self importance.

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Only news I'm looking for today/early tomorrow is the decision on Martin. His option becomes guaranteed the 30th. Is it declined outright or picked up because they found a deal?

I want to see what contract extension Mark Williams will receive.

[Sunsdeuce]

Only news I'm looking for today/early tomorrow is the decision on Martin. His option becomes guaranteed the 30th. Is it declined outright or picked up because they found a deal?

Martin and Richards are easy

It’s Royce and Allen - those will take time

I’m putting my money on Allen being the one to go. O’Neal has more fire and passion and can play in a faster system than Allen can. So from what everyone is saying OTT is looking for O’Neal fits what he’s looking for more than Allen does.

[Saberestar]

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BUT this proves one thing. Gambo was 100% wrong on his info. His “Gambo 5” was (to quote the gost, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who played Dutch from Predator)….”It's all bull, all of it”

Khaman Maluach Was on the Suns radar. This disproves “Gambo’s 5” This disproves the Suns “didn’t think they could get Khaman Maluach”. The suns definitely thought they could get Khaman Maluach so much so they were calling his agent.

This is why I very much dislike Gambo as a human being. He’s a liar and he feeds off his lies. He got caught in another lie and made up a lie to cover his lie. He relies on lies to build his ego and his self importance.

Lol, sorry you can hate him all you want but he was right absolutely about who we wanted in the draft at #10.

He said it all the time...we wanted Maluach but we didn't expect him to be there so with that in mind we would talk about the more realistic options...those were the Gambo 5. Not that difficult to understand.

You hate the guy? Fine, but don't lie about what he said or didn't say on his radio show.

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BUT this proves one thing. Gambo was 100% wrong on his info. His “Gambo 5” was (to quote the gost, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who played Dutch from Predator)….”It's all bull, all of it”

Khaman Maluach Was on the Suns radar. This disproves “Gambo’s 5” This disproves the Suns “didn’t think they could get Khaman Maluach”. The suns definitely thought they could get Khaman Maluach so much so they were calling his agent.

This is why I very much dislike Gambo as a human being. He’s a liar and he feeds off his lies. He got caught in another lie and made up a lie to cover his lie. He relies on lies to build his ego and his self importance.

This seems like a stretch. The consensus mock draft boards all had Maluach getting selected before the 10th pick. It didn't sound like Ishbia called Rich Paul, it sounded like Rich Paul called Ishbia, asked him what he thought about one of his client's named Khaman Maluach, and then Ishbia said he'd love to get him if he was there at 10. Rich Paul said he'd try to get him there isn't Rich Paul telling other teams to not select his client, it's just him telling Isbhia he'll try to let him know if his client is there at 10. It didn't sound like it was a surefire thing at all, more wishful thinking. It actually confirms what Gambo was hearing, and it sounds like you just dislike Gambo. And I'm not even a huge Gambo fan or anything, this was the first year I actually listened to his live podcast draft thing.

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BUT this proves one thing. Gambo was 100% wrong on his info. His “Gambo 5” was (to quote the gost, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who played Dutch from Predator)….”It's all bull, all of it”

Khaman Maluach Was on the Suns radar. This disproves “Gambo’s 5” This disproves the Suns “didn’t think they could get Khaman Maluach”. The suns definitely thought they could get Khaman Maluach so much so they were calling his agent.

This is why I very much dislike Gambo as a human being. He’s a liar and he feeds off his lies. He got caught in another lie and made up a lie to cover his lie. He relies on lies to build his ego and his self importance.

Lol, sorry you can hate him all you want but he was right absolutely about who we wanted in the draft at #10.

He said it all the time...we wanted Maluach but we didn't expect him to be there so with that in mind we would talk about the more realistic options...those were the Gambo 5. Not that difficult to understand.

You hate the guy? Fine, but don't lie about wht he said or didn't say on his radio show.

Why is it so hard for you Gambo fan boys to admit he got caught in a lie? Seriously. He NEvER not once said before the draft said the Suns wanted Maluach. I listen to that piece of trash of a human being on the radio in AZ because Azsports has a monopoly on the sports radio scene in AZ so I have no other choice. He did NOT a single time say Suns want Maluach. He covered his a$s when the Suns got Maluach after the draft with another lie saying the “Suns wanted him but didn’t think they could get them which is why he didn’t have Maluach in my Gambo 5”. That’s what liars do, they make more lies to cover their lies and that’s what Gambo is.

We clearly view his obvious lies differently. No need to keep this conversation going because we both aren’t going to change our views.

But anyway, moving on. Next.

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BUT this proves one thing. Gambo was 100% wrong on his info. His “Gambo 5” was (to quote the gost, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who played Dutch from Predator)….”It's all bull, all of it”

Khaman Maluach Was on the Suns radar. This disproves “Gambo’s 5” This disproves the Suns “didn’t think they could get Khaman Maluach”. The suns definitely thought they could get Khaman Maluach so much so they were calling his agent.

This is why I very much dislike Gambo as a human being. He’s a liar and he feeds off his lies. He got caught in another lie and made up a lie to cover his lie. He relies on lies to build his ego and his self importance.

This seems like a stretch. The consensus mock draft boards all had Maluach getting selected before the 10th pick. It didn't sound like Ishbia called Rich Paul, it sounded like Rich Paul called Ishbia, asked him what he thought about one of his client's named Khaman Maluach, and then Ishbia said he'd love to get him if he was there at 10. Rich Paul said he'd try to get him there isn't Rich Paul telling other teams to not select his client, it's just him telling Isbhia he'll try to let him know if his client is there at 10. It didn't sound like it was a surefire thing at all, more wishful thinking. It actually confirms what Gambo was hearing, and it sounds like you just dislike Gambo. And I'm not even a huge Gambo fan or anything, this was the first year I actually listened to his live podcast draft thing.

So regardless of who called who, it doesn’t matter. There was very real interest between the suns, the player and his agent well before the draft. It just further proves my point.

I’m done with this conversation. Moving on to trades now.

[Saberestar]

But anyway, moving on. Next.

I agree. Good.

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BUT this proves one thing. Gambo was 100% wrong on his info. His “Gambo 5” was (to quote the gost, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who played Dutch from Predator)….”It's all bull, all of it”

Khaman Maluach Was on the Suns radar. This disproves “Gambo’s 5” This disproves the Suns “didn’t think they could get Khaman Maluach”. The suns definitely thought they could get Khaman Maluach so much so they were calling his agent.

This is why I very much dislike Gambo as a human being. He’s a liar and he feeds off his lies. He got caught in another lie and made up a lie to cover his lie. He relies on lies to build his ego and his self importance.

This seems like a stretch. The consensus mock draft boards all had Maluach getting selected before the 10th pick. It didn't sound like Ishbia called Rich Paul, it sounded like Rich Paul called Ishbia, asked him what he thought about one of his client's named Khaman Maluach, and then Ishbia said he'd love to get him if he was there at 10. Rich Paul said he'd try to get him there isn't Rich Paul telling other teams to not select his client, it's just him telling Isbhia he'll try to let him know if his client is there at 10. It didn't sound like it was a surefire thing at all, more wishful thinking. It actually confirms what Gambo was hearing, and it sounds like you just dislike Gambo. And I'm not even a huge Gambo fan or anything, this was the first year I actually listened to his live podcast draft thing.

So regardless of who called who, it doesn’t matter. There was very real interest between the suns, the player and his agent well before the draft. It just further proves my point.

I'm not trying to defend Gambo here, did he say the Suns were not interested in Malauch? What point are you trying to prove?

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[Phnxsports]

Only news I'm looking for today/early tomorrow is the decision on Martin. His option becomes guaranteed the 30th. Is it declined outright or picked up because they found a deal?

Martin and Richards are easy

It’s Royce and Allen - those will take time

For sure. I guess all I was trying to say is the Martin news one way or the other it is the only definitive news we will get this weekend. It's the first domino of many. Hopefully we get news they are picking up the option. Means the Suns found a deal and we get an asset of some kind coming.

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[BobbieL]

Only news I'm looking for today/early tomorrow is the decision on Martin. His option becomes guaranteed the 30th. Is it declined outright or picked up because they found a deal?

Martin and Richards are easy

It’s Royce and Allen - those will take time

For sure. I guess all I was trying to say is the Martin news one way or the other it is the only definitive news we will get this weekend. It's the first domino of many. Hopefully we get news they are picking up the option. Means the Suns found a deal and we get an asset of some kind coming.

Oh, I see what you are saying. And like you said, if the option is picked up, he will be traded

My point was more -- unless the front office totally botches Martin and Richards -- that should be almost $14m of cap space they recoup
I just want them to get where they can make multi player trades at some point

I don't need the MLE
Could care less about how much tax Ishbia pays - just want to be able to combine players

[Fo-Real]

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I dont see him ever getting 15+ mil from anyone.

[dremill24]

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Hm, Shams also said Detroit paused contract negotiations. Perhaps they become a potential Allen suitor with a need for spot up shooting.

[BobbieL]

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Hm, Shams also said Detroit paused contract negotiations. Perhaps they become a potential Allen suitor with a need for spot up shooting.

The Suns would save almost $7m sending him to the Pistons for Fontenecchio and another player

That was really the only option as I don't think they would move Ivey for Allen

I wonder if they could do a sign and trade for Shroder at like $8m -- so the Suns get the savings but still get a person of value. A 1+1 type contract

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I dont see him ever getting 15+ mil from anyone.

Was saying the samething

[ChuckS]

I’d dump Oso in a heartbeat. Dude has no skill set. Nothing. hes a G-leaguer at best. All he has is hustle. Those type of players are a dime a dozen in the developmental league. He was a hustle player on a bad suns team that got people excited because he actually tried unlike our two main stars. .

I won't judge a rookie based on his first year, but am confused as to why you, and others, believe he "actually tried unlike our two main stars".

We had an all-star at 36 years old, who played the sixth most minutes in the league (36.5), and outperformed his opponents by 9.1 points with the highest plus/minus of any rotation player on the team. (Only two starters were even a plus per 82 games.com.). He averaged 26.6 PPG (6th in the league), 6 boards, 4 assists, and 1.2 blocks. Booker played an even higher 37.3 minutes (2d in the league), at 25.6 points (9th), 4 boards, and 7 assists.

I'm a fan, but even I do not believe they could have accomplished that if not trying.

[BobbieL]

This seems like a stretch. The consensus mock draft boards all had Maluach getting selected before the 10th pick. It didn't sound like Ishbia called Rich Paul, it sounded like Rich Paul called Ishbia, asked him what he thought about one of his client's named Khaman Maluach, and then Ishbia said he'd love to get him if he was there at 10. Rich Paul said he'd try to get him there isn't Rich Paul telling other teams to not select his client, it's just him telling Isbhia he'll try to let him know if his client is there at 10. It didn't sound like it was a surefire thing at all, more wishful thinking. It actually confirms what Gambo was hearing, and it sounds like you just dislike Gambo. And I'm not even a huge Gambo fan or anything, this was the first year I actually listened to his live podcast draft thing.

So regardless of who called who, it doesn’t matter. There was very real interest between the suns, the player and his agent well before the draft. It just further proves my point.

I'm not trying to defend Gambo here, did he say the Suns were not interested in Malauch? What point are you trying to prove?

I think Gambo did say the Suns wanted Maulauch but he didn't think he would be there, hence not in his top 5
So I don't think Gambo was wrong on this one
(granted 5 players for pick 10 - when you know 5 of them -- Flagg, Knueppel, Bailey, Harper and I think the Baylor kid- will be off the board is great leeway.

Now pick 29 - Gambo 5 - -makes more sense

[MrMiyagi]

I hope Dunn's been working on his 3s. I'd love to see Dunn/Fleming/Maluach play some defense together.