2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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This weasel couldn't get Clayton Jr. to Miami tho lol

It was never in the works, just fan fiction and I’m not sure we would’ve taken him over ole buddy if he was still there at 20

[MartyCONLONNN]

Vlad Goldin is Klutch and we were going to take WCJ. we would have had TWO Klutch guys + training and out to dinner with K Love??? the cryptic Brinkley post of their great energy together???

F**K IT. We are backkkkkkk

[batterybro42]

Bring LeBron back dust the 6 off get the black mask out and let’s ride

LeBron on this team makes us the best in the East and I would 100% take him over at KD even at 40+

Playmaking, stability, will still give you 30 any night he wants. The team actually fits him. On defense he can just play angles and funnel drives into our bigs.

If Riley was talking about LeBron the entire time it will be the grand finale. His biggest whale he ever reeled in back in the boat one more time for a final run, they both retire when it’s all over

[SA37]

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Pass.

[Lennyzinho]

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This weasel couldn't get Clayton Jr. to Miami tho lol

Would you have wanted him over KJ falling down to us the way he did? Would've been interesting to see I guess. But that smoke with us and draft picks is rarely (ever?) accurate. Were bam jovic jaquez herro ware teased or mocked at all to us? I'd say largely no.

[SA37]

Spoiler:

Part of what's missing here is what Mia could do and what they should do, not just what they are likely to do based on their past tendencies.

The strategy of acquiring assets to strengthen future positionings is the approach that I think and some others also think is the correct way to operate right now.

Regarding the specific idea of netting a future first(s) with their assets, if they indeed decided to make this a prioritized goal, I totally think its a reasonable expectation so long as they would be willing to take on unwanted salary in return.

It seems pretty clear the FO has prioritized getting its finances in order to avoid apron issues/penalties and to have enough cap space for a max player either in 2026 or 2027. As you'll see from the clips below, Riley doesn't seem to have any intention of blowing things up and building through the draft. And given what he said about the CBA, taking on onerous contracts has to be done with forethought and without incurring penalties for being over certain aprons or the repeater tax...etc.

I think this ~minute from Riley says a lot:

https://youtu.be/sK4dKlVUlyM?t=485

Here he is talking about Miami's plans (to about 16'30):

https://youtu.be/sK4dKlVUlyM?t=700


Here is the TL;DW:

Riley said he doesn’t expect the Heat to “run it back” with virtually the same roster next season, which means the team will pursue trades this summer.

The Heat — who finished 10th in the Eastern Conference, made the playoffs through the play-in tournament as the No. 8 seed and then got swept by Cleveland, losing the last two of those games by 37 and 55 points, respectively — have retooled their roster, by Riley’s count, no fewer than 14 times in his 29 offseasons in Miami.

“I think we do have to make changes,” Riley said. “There’s no doubt there has to be some change.”

https://apnews.com/article/heat-pat-riley-c20be333636def3045911ff6d43d3035

To add some context, Riley spoke at length about how successful he's been at re-tooling and how it usually takes a few years to do (and he gives examples of the re-tool from 2002-2006).


And one more bit (he could be lying, of course):

While Riley knows there must be changes to the Heat’s roster after being eliminated in the first round of the playoffs in each of the last two seasons, it appears he’s also ready to move forward with the the leading duo of Bam Adebayo and Herro. The question is can the Heat add a star this summer to make it a leading trio. “We got [Herro] and Bam at the right time and we’re going to move forward with them,” Riley said.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article306034806.html


Read the rest of the article at your own peril, as it is mainly about Herro's extension

What they will ‘likely do’ is besides the point that I’m getting at

FYI, I’ve been making the ‘what they’ll likely do’ point in regards to their so called KD pursuit

Point I’m making now is ‘what they should be doing’ and accumulating assets ought to be their top priority imo

That's fine if that's what you think Miami should be doing, but the only obvious way for Miami to accumulate assets is to trade Bam and Herro. So you're essentially arguing for Miami to roll out a G-league team.

[Lennyzinho]

I'm not on board with Dame. I'm tired of paying big money for old point guards. They always disappoint.

As for Kuminga, if that's the asking price, move on. Too much for a guy I don't have that form a conviction on.

I'm all for investing in a young guy with star potential but that's too high a price with too little proof of concept.

Paying big money for a FRP

Not to mention that theyd be trading away big money in the process in Rozier and Wiggins

Also clears a wider pathway for a soft tank next season

With Wiggins gone, Jaquez and maybe even Johnson can get more run to develop

The dame stuff needs to be put to bed. Riley is never going to soft tank or tank. Riley is never going to help Milwaukee field a competitive team if he thinks there's even a 1% chance he can get giannis.
The end.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Vlad Goldin is Klutch and we were going to take WCJ. we would have had TWO Klutch guys + training and out to dinner with K Love??? the cryptic Brinkley post of their great energy together???

F**K IT. We are backkkkkkk

STAY TUNED.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I'm not on board with Dame. I'm tired of paying big money for old point guards. They always disappoint.

As for Kuminga, if that's the asking price, move on. Too much for a guy I don't have that form a conviction on.

I'm all for investing in a young guy with star potential but that's too high a price with too little proof of concept.

Paying big money for a FRP

Not to mention that theyd be trading away big money in the process in Rozier and Wiggins

Also clears a wider pathway for a soft tank next season

With Wiggins gone, Jaquez and maybe even Johnson can get more run to develop

The dame stuff needs to be put to bed. Riley is never going to soft tank or tank. Riley is never going to help Milwaukee field a competitive team if he thinks there's even a 1% chance he can get giannis.
The end.

Why tank when LeBron is coming and he Bam and Spo are colluding to find a 3rd piece to bring in?

[SA37]

Okay, what do we think is going to happen with Duncan Robinson? We know the Heat will be talking to his agent about potential contracts if he opts out. How much do you think he's being offered? My guess is 3 years at $20 million, back loaded with the last year being a team option.

Could be. I think Miami needs to move on from Robinson. I'd rather see him dealt or cut than extended.

But it would be un-Riley like for Miami to just cut Robinson. Maybe he gets 2-years, $20M; his guaranteed money over 2 years or a contract like what you laid out.

[Kobewade11]

Sounds like Detroit needs a new shooter.

[SA37]

I'm not on board with Dame. I'm tired of paying big money for old point guards. They always disappoint.

As for Kuminga, if that's the asking price, move on. Too much for a guy I don't have that form a conviction on.

I'm all for investing in a young guy with star potential but that's too high a price with too little proof of concept.

Paying big money for a FRP

Not to mention that theyd be trading away big money in the process in Rozier and Wiggins

Also clears a wider pathway for a soft tank next season

With Wiggins gone, Jaquez and maybe even Johnson can get more run to develop

The dame stuff needs to be put to bed. Riley is never going to soft tank or tank. Riley is never going to help Milwaukee field a competitive team if he thinks there's even a 1% chance he can get giannis.
The end.

Riley literally admitted to tanking twice (2003 and 2008) during his end-of-year interview a month ago.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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No better way to end it than with the team you had the most success with (in only 4 seasons) compared to the 18 or whatever elsewhere.

Stay tuned, Patrick James Riley had this up his sleeve the whole time.

He is not coming back here unless Savanah pressure him. His wife didn't want to leave Miami. That's the only way to get Lebron back.

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Happy wife, happy life. You know that’s true Twix

[SoFlaKingReal]

lol....LeBron hates the Heat

"You mean the city or the team?" lmao


He for sure as hell doesn't miss the team.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Uh oh, 1 key piece already out the door

[gom]

I hate being in the situation we are in, because it really sucks, but we worked really hard to get here. Let's face it though: It could be a lot worse.

My plan:

Don't make it worse. Take a year to fix things.

1. Keep Wiggins and make it perfect for him to reclaim his value. Headline him.
2. Do not trade picks now.
3. Do not hunt whales now. We have dodged some serious bullets the last few seasons. If we had done the Dame trade, would we really be better off? I doubt it.
4. If at mid-season we are not a good team, give Bam and Herro a trip to Carnaval in Brasil and hand Rozier the ball. Let's find out how bad we can be.
5. Play the young guys and give them experience.

Dame Butler and Bam was definitely going to make some noise and we would have been better off. There's no guarantee Dame tears his Achilles here with us either.

Right. Nothing is that simple. Still, over the course of the deal, Dame was bound to have serious injury issues. I was saying that all that summer.

Robinson's deal for 2024-25 is $19,888,000. Only $9.888m are guaranteed if he opts in. If he opts out, he needs to find more money. That doesn't seem that difficult. Even a mininum deal pays $3,080,917 for a seven-year player. A biannual-exception pays $5,135,000 per season. That's a solid restructure of the deal. We won't be able to use the mle otherwise, but oh well.

[Noodle Arm]

I see the vision...

Been mending fences with Klutch the past few years.

Bring LeBron back to keep the Heat somewhat competitive in a weakend East.

Make the Lakers worse in a stacked West, that way Luka has second thoughts.

Hire Dragic as an assistant.

Sign Luka in 2026.

STAAAYYY TUUUUNED!!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I see the vision...

Been mending fences with Klutch the past few years.

Bring LeBron back to keep the Heat somewhat competitive in a weakend East.

Make the Lakers worse in a stacked West, that way Luka has second thoughts.

Hire Dragic as an assistant.

Sign Luka in 2026.

STAAAYYY TUUUUNED!!

Let me put some calls in to confirm this but I think you’re correct

[Michael Doleac]

I am not buying these Lechon rumors/hype. That guy is a Heat (and Riley) hater through and through.

[twix2500]

I see the vision...

Been mending fences with Klutch the past few years.

Bring LeBron back to keep the Heat somewhat competitive in a weakend East.

Make the Lakers worse in a stacked West, that way Luka has second thoughts.

Hire Dragic as an assistant.

Sign Luka in 2026.

STAAAYYY TUUUUNED!!

Klutch has too because his Clients all want to play in Miami. They can't be backstabbing their clients, becauseof a personal vendetta. And the Lebron influence has faded.

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