The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

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I hope Dunn's been working on his 3s. I'd love to see Dunn/Fleming/Maluach play some defense together.

Get your chance this summer league!

[Bogyo]

I’d dump Oso in a heartbeat. Dude has no skill set. Nothing. hes a G-leaguer at best. All he has is hustle. Those type of players are a dime a dozen in the developmental league. He was a hustle player on a bad suns team that got people excited because he actually tried unlike our two main stars. .

If the Suns can get a FRP pick for Richards and maybe another pick or two from Oso and lastly, maybe a couple seconds and a TPE for O'Neale -- I wonder if the picks would be enticing to Riley at that point. I just don't think he will trade Rozier and Robinson without some decent draft picks going to Miami.

Suns can't use the TPE to add to the trade -but not taking on salary for O'neale would be the prize.

I think the Suns need to shoot for a FRP. Bane hasn’t been to a single all-star game and he was 4 FRP. Richard should demand at least 1. Get some assets. At this point, no more selling low. Suns have the leverage with these center needy teams. Use it.

It was more like 3. They got one (or one and a half) for taking on the old useless azz of bad contract KCP.

[BobbieL]

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Incoming trade as Richards it seems

Second round picks

Do I hear two two
How about three…. Going once
Oh we have a late first in 2029

[dremill24]

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Hm, Shams also said Detroit paused contract negotiations. Perhaps they become a potential Allen suitor with a need for spot up shooting.

The Suns would save almost $7m sending him to the Pistons for Fontenecchio and another player

That was really the only option as I don't think they would move Ivey for Allen

I wonder if they could do a sign and trade for Shroder at like $8m -- so the Suns get the savings but still get a person of value. A 1+1 type contract

Suns cant actually take a signed-and-traded player. I like Schröder as a TPMLE option but it doesnt seem like they're going to cut enough salary to open that up and it also seems like Schröder may have better offers elsewhere.

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Incoming trade as Richards it seems

Second round picks

Do I hear two two
How about three…. Going once
Oh we have a late first in 2029

I would trade Richards to the Lakers for Bronny James and their 2030 1st.
Then... Beal for Lebron at the deadline. Lebron's kid is going to U of A, so Lebron playing in Phoenix makes a ton of sense.


(just kidding about trading for Lebron).

[Fo-Real]

I’d dump Oso in a heartbeat. Dude has no skill set. Nothing. hes a G-leaguer at best. All he has is hustle. Those type of players are a dime a dozen in the developmental league. He was a hustle player on a bad suns team that got people excited because he actually tried unlike our two main stars. .

I won't judge a rookie based on his first year, but am confused as to why you, and others, believe he "actually tried unlike our two main stars".

We had an all-star at 36 years old, who played the sixth most minutes in the league (36.5), and outperformed his opponents by 9.1 points with the highest plus/minus of any rotation player on the team. (Only two starters were even a plus per 82 games.com.). He averaged 26.6 PPG (6th in the league), 6 boards, 4 assists, and 1.2 blocks. Booker payed an even higher 37.3 minutes (2d in the league), at 25.6 points, 4 boards, and 7 assists.

I'm a fan, but even I do not believe they could have accomplished that if not trying.

THANK YOU!!!

[bwgood77]

Some good info:

NBA Trade Rumors Roundup: Suns talk Devin Booker extension, Beal open to trade, LeBron option with Lakers
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-roundup-more-kevin-durant-trade-rumors-including-jrue-holiday-involved-in-deal

“Beal open to trade but it’s unlikely

Bradley Beal is owed $110 million over the next two seasons and holds a no-trade clause that would let him reject a trade anywhere he doesn’t want to live and play. That means Beal is likely to be on the Suns next season, and new coach Jordan Ott will play him heavy minutes early in the season, hoping to raise his trade value.

Beal is “open” to a trade, Fred Katz reports at The Athletic, but that comes with conditions:

Beal would be open to the right trade that sends him to the right destination, but his preference is to remain in Phoenix, even if the team won only 35 games a season ago and just downgraded from Kevin Durant, who it dealt to the Houston Rockets last weekend.

Beal will make an average of $55 million each of the next two years, and this is a player most teams believe to be worth more like $15 million a season at this point in his career (Katz confirmed that for The Athletic). No team is taking on that extra cash without some draft picks as sweeteners, and it’s going to take a lot of them. Which is another reason a Beal trade is unlikely.

Some fans and media reports have suggested the Suns should waive-and-stretch Beal, which would open up a roster spot and spread his contract over the next five years ($22 million a season of dead money on the books). The problem, as Katz notes, is that because the Suns have already waived-and-stretched Nassir Little and E.J. Liddell, doing the same to Beal would put the Suns over the little-known rule that only 15% of a team’s cap space can be used on stretched players. The Suns could ask Beal to shave $13.7 million off his contract to facilitate getting waived, but Beal has shown zero interest in taking a haircut in the past.

The reality is that the Suns are going to stay in the Bradley Beal business for a while.“


1) what is the “right situation “? No one knows that answer expect Beal

2) stretch and waive is out fo the question.

3) Gambo and Flex can talk out their rear ends (at least they should turn around so we can here them) about Beal being off this team before the season starts for attention but reality says something different.

The thing with Beal is, he may be open to trade, and a lot of people "blame" him, but they likely don't present an offer unless there is one, and we don't even know if there has been an offer that isn't worse. Is it worth taking a worse player on a longer contract that is huge and kills our cap for longer?

Some have mentioned Patrick Williams but he sucks for a PF and his contract goes through 29. He obviously makes a lot less but he is a PF averaging 9ppg, 3.8 RPG with terrible efficiency and no defense. We don't want to be paying $18 million a year through 2029 for a backup PF.

At least Beal expires and will give us a lot of options in the summer of 2027. With Williams we'd probably be tied up from doing much until 2029 (plus we'd need to take back another $35m+ salary on top of his.

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Has to be for a trade. If not, somebody better be working on their pf skillset between Nic, Oso and Maluach!

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Seeing what Bane got combining that with the need for a center for a lot of teams who have playoffs on their mind who also have salary cap in mind…..my starting asking price is a 1st and 2 2nd rounders.

Richard’s is a 10 and 10 center on super cheap. That alone is worth a lot right now.

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Zach Lowe:

“Some people around the league have suggested to me the Miami Heat could turn like Duncan Robinson plus Terry Rozier plus whatever into Bradley Beal. The Heat have had chances to get Beal before and haven't done it. Is the price that low gonna entice them?”

I would have done that since he was expiring next year, as well as Terry Rozier, but Duncan Robinson just opted out of his contract. Now if he did a 2 year contract that was reasonable, I'd do it, but not sure if a S&T can be combined with Rozier for Beal.

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The thing with Beal is, he may be open to trade, and a lot of people "blame" him, but they likely don't present an offer unless there is one, and we don't even know if there has been an offer that isn't worse. Is it worth taking a worse player on a longer contract that is huge and kills our cap for longer?

Some have mentioned Patrick Williams but he sucks for a PF and his contract goes through 29. He obviously makes a lot less but he is a PF averaging 9ppg, 3.8 RPG with terrible efficiency and no defense. We don't want to be paying $18 million a year through 2029 for a backup PF.

At least Beal expires and will give us a lot of options in the summer of 2027. With Williams we'd probably be tied up from doing much until 2029 (plus we'd need to take back another $35m+ salary on top of his.

I agree about Patrick Williams. I'd rather just sit on Beal for another two seasons than to trade for Patrick Williams who's second contract is quite mind-boggling to me since I haven't seen any type of growth or potential from him.

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Zach Lowe:

“Some people around the league have suggested to me the Miami Heat could turn like Duncan Robinson plus Terry Rozier plus whatever into Bradley Beal. The Heat have had chances to get Beal before and haven't done it. Is the price that low gonna entice them?”

I would have done that since he was expiring next year, as well as Terry Rozier, but Duncan Robinson just opted out of his contract. Now if he did a 2 year contract that was reasonable, I'd do it, but not sure if a S&T can be combined with Rozier for Beal.

Yup he sure did.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25174330-duncan-robinson-reportedly-exercises-20m-eto-heat-will-talk-new-contract-or-trade

[starbosa10]

Jazz just traded Sexton and a 2nd for Nurk lol

[TeamTragic]

Jazz just traded Sexton and a 2nd for Nurk lol

LOL WHAT

[Saberestar]

Marc Stein:

The Clippers and Suns are reportedly considering a reunion with Chris Paul.

"The Los Angeles Clippers, in addition
to Phoenix, are another of Paul's former
teams that is said to be weighing a second
engagement with the 12-time NBA All-Star,
who turned 40 in May. Paul's family stayed in
Los Angeles this season while Dad played in
South Texas."

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Marc Stein:

The Clippers and Suns are reportedly considering a reunion with Chris Paul.

"The Los Angeles Clippers, in addition
to Phoenix, are another of Paul's former
teams that is said to be weighing a second
engagement with the 12-time NBA All-Star,
who turned 40 in May. Paul's family stayed in
Los Angeles this season while Dad played in
South Texas."

Definitely makes sense for the Suns!

[starbosa10]

Would love to bring cp3 back. Would be a great leader for our young guys

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FROM SHAMS:

Just in: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2031 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic, sources tell ESPN.

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EDIT/UPDATE TO POST BY SHAMS:

Just in: The Utah Jazz are trading Collin Sexton and a 2030 second-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Jusuf Nurkic, sources tell ESPN.