The Julius Randle Thread

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If it's a descending contract this is a homerun

That sucks, it's certainly a homerun for Randle. I feel like we overpaid just about every player on the roster. Ant (max, but don't think he is Super). Conley not living up to his $10m, Gobert is 7Mil extra, Naz 5Mil over, and Randle 5Mil over. We could had sign another all star with that extra money. When is Randle eligible to be traded?

This is 20 million more than I expected us to pay him. Even backloaded this means no TPMLE PG and no room to add another PG. This is another example of TC ******g the team over. His defenders will rush to point out how great Randle was last year. That being true doesn’t change the fact that Randle is inconsistent and tends to play better during contract years. He is on the tail end of his prime, and is a defensive liability when paired with Naz. We wasted another season by not adding a PG. Unless of course we trade for one.

Julius Randle is a star. You don't get Stars for under $30 Million these days. It's too bad we couldn't get him for just a little less to save us from the second apron thing whatever that is. Randle did supposedly take less in the past to help out his team.

[TimberKat]

Not what I was hoping. Starting salary on a 3yr/100m contract is almost exactly the amount of his player option this year. So about 31m. So, between Naz and Randle, we are already close to the second apron.

I feel like with no cap space available, we should have called Naz’s and Randle’s bluffs. I think they would have each extended at lower numbers to get security. Not TC’s style though.

Yes, it is better than losing them to free agency. We need his salary slot and Naz's slot to make a big trade in the future. Maybe pull another DLo special mid season. Let Randle score 35 pts a game and swap him for PG + 5 second round picks before the trading deadline

[TimberKat]

That sucks, it's certainly a homerun for Randle. I feel like we overpaid just about every player on the roster. Ant (max, but don't think he is Super). Conley not living up to his $10m, Gobert is 7Mil extra, Naz 5Mil over, and Randle 5Mil over. We could had sign another all star with that extra money. When is Randle eligible to be traded?

This is 20 million more than I expected us to pay him. Even backloaded this means no TPMLE PG and no room to add another PG. This is another example of TC ******g the team over. His defenders will rush to point out how great Randle was last year. That being true doesn’t change the fact that Randle is inconsistent and tends to play better during contract years. He is on the tail end of his prime, and is a defensive liability when paired with Naz. We wasted another season by not adding a PG. Unless of course we trade for one.

Julius Randle is a star. You don't get Stars for under $30 Million these days. It's too bad we couldn't get him for just a little less to save us from the second apron thing whatever that is. Randle did supposedly take less in the past to help out his team.

Yes, we thought he (and Naz) would have a breakthrough playoff but that didn't happen. His fault (and the team's fault) was completely exposed in the OKC series. Can he really regain his all star form in 2025-2026? If he makes the all star team or all nba thrid team, then the contract is well worth it. I am not betting on it.

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As expected.

[life_saver]

Decent deal for both sides imo...Randle had a poor series vs OKC but he was very good vs Lakers, Warriors.

[moss_is_1]

Good value here for us. Randle is an allstar level talent, and should be better the more time he gets to gel. A full offseason will help a lot.

[winforlose]

The more I think about this the more I realize one or two things is true. Either we signed Randle to keep him (terrible negotiating by TC and he once again really hurts the team,) or we signed him to trade him. If we did sign with intent to trade then this is a Josh Okogie style move and I dig that. The JO move is what I wanted us to do with Kyle Anderson. I am hoping @Shrink or someone else knowledgeable in this area can tell me how long we need to wait before we can trade Randle, and whether he gets veto power in year 1?

[minimus]

This is 20 million more than I expected us to pay him. Even backloaded this means no TPMLE PG and no room to add another PG. This is another example of TC ******g the team over. His defenders will rush to point out how great Randle was last year. That being true doesn’t change the fact that Randle is inconsistent and tends to play better during contract years. He is on the tail end of his prime, and is a defensive liability when paired with Naz. We wasted another season by not adding a PG. Unless of course we trade for one.

Oh sure, it’s probably just the management stubbornly ignoring the perfect plan that exists in everyone’s imagination but somehow never survives contact with reality. After all, building a contender must be as simple as wishing for star players to sign cheap deals, convincing rivals to donate talent, and expecting instant chemistry without any of those annoying real-world constraints like salary caps, egos, or actual negotiations.

[minimus]

Good value here for us. Randle is an allstar level talent, and should be better the more time he gets to gel. A full offseason will help a lot.

Yep. It is time to build that chemistry, develop young players and win the games.

[winforlose]

This is 20 million more than I expected us to pay him. Even backloaded this means no TPMLE PG and no room to add another PG. This is another example of TC ******g the team over. His defenders will rush to point out how great Randle was last year. That being true doesn’t change the fact that Randle is inconsistent and tends to play better during contract years. He is on the tail end of his prime, and is a defensive liability when paired with Naz. We wasted another season by not adding a PG. Unless of course we trade for one.

Oh sure, it’s probably just the management stubbornly ignoring the perfect plan that exists in everyone’s imagination but somehow never survives contact with reality. After all, building a contender must be as simple as wishing for star players to sign cheap deals, convincing rivals to donate talent, and expecting instant chemistry without any of those annoying real-world constraints like salary caps, egos, or actual negotiations.

Explain this to me in detail please. Randle had a player option for 31 million. He opts out and we refuse to sign and trade, where does he go? The team that acquires him pays him what? Alternatively Randle opts in, then what? His family puts down more roots in Minnesota. Randle plays every game with the threat of a serious injury costing him his entire salary next season. The following season (27/28) Randle plays on a “prove it” worth a fraction of what he could be making. Does Randle extend at a discount under this scenario? Paying him 31 is a total misuse of the leverage TC had. But, the exception is if this overpay was by design to facilitate a different trade. Tax teams need to be smart with trades and money balancing can be tricky. I see a lot of value in a slight over pay as a means of facilitating a different deal. I will give TC A LOT OF CREDIT, if he trades Randle before the deadline, preferably sooner. If not, I will see this as the most recent in a long line of TC failures that undermine the team. Rosas set us up for a golden age, so far TC has gone out of his way to damage it. Time will tell what this is.

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My brother just sent me this.

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[Domejandro]

This is less than he would have gotten in the open market in 2026, I think it’s fair for both sides. I like that it is three years (lining up with a Rudy’s deal, should he opt-in).

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As expected.

Seems like it has to be the case, but strange things happen.

[winforlose]

This is less than he would have gotten in the open market in 2026, I think it’s fair for both sides. I like that it is three years (lining up with a Rudy’s deal, should he opt-in).

Assuming he stayed healthy in 2025/26. Also assuming he wants to leave and drag his kids to another new city.

[Domejandro]

This is less than he would have gotten in the open market in 2026, I think it’s fair for both sides. I like that it is three years (lining up with a Rudy’s deal, should he opt-in).

Assuming he stayed healthy in 2025/26. Also assuming he wants to leave and drag his kids to another new city.

He clearly didn’t, which is why he agreed to this deal.

[KGdaBom]

This is 20 million more than I expected us to pay him. Even backloaded this means no TPMLE PG and no room to add another PG. This is another example of TC ******g the team over. His defenders will rush to point out how great Randle was last year. That being true doesn’t change the fact that Randle is inconsistent and tends to play better during contract years. He is on the tail end of his prime, and is a defensive liability when paired with Naz. We wasted another season by not adding a PG. Unless of course we trade for one.

Oh sure, it’s probably just the management stubbornly ignoring the perfect plan that exists in everyone’s imagination but somehow never survives contact with reality. After all, building a contender must be as simple as wishing for star players to sign cheap deals, convincing rivals to donate talent, and expecting instant chemistry without any of those annoying real-world constraints like salary caps, egos, or actual negotiations.

Great post.

[minimus]

This is 20 million more than I expected us to pay him. Even backloaded this means no TPMLE PG and no room to add another PG. This is another example of TC ******g the team over. His defenders will rush to point out how great Randle was last year. That being true doesn’t change the fact that Randle is inconsistent and tends to play better during contract years. He is on the tail end of his prime, and is a defensive liability when paired with Naz. We wasted another season by not adding a PG. Unless of course we trade for one.

Oh sure, it’s probably just the management stubbornly ignoring the perfect plan that exists in everyone’s imagination but somehow never survives contact with reality. After all, building a contender must be as simple as wishing for star players to sign cheap deals, convincing rivals to donate talent, and expecting instant chemistry without any of those annoying real-world constraints like salary caps, egos, or actual negotiations.

Explain this to me in detail please.

What is there to explain? You can debate with the voices in your head, but reality is right in front of our eyes. Less emotion, more observation—that’s how truth emerges.

[winforlose]

Oh sure, it’s probably just the management stubbornly ignoring the perfect plan that exists in everyone’s imagination but somehow never survives contact with reality. After all, building a contender must be as simple as wishing for star players to sign cheap deals, convincing rivals to donate talent, and expecting instant chemistry without any of those annoying real-world constraints like salary caps, egos, or actual negotiations.

Explain this to me in detail please.

What is there to explain? You can debate with the voices in your head, but reality is right in front of our eyes. Less emotion, more observation—that’s how truth emerges.

Yes, you are correct. The truth is either TC blew a contract negotiation badly by misapplying leverage, or he made a wise decision with a specific trade or trades in mind. Time will tell.

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As expected.

If I did my math right, we have appx 8mil for NAW and stay under 2nd Apron. I am assuming we drop and replace Minott, Garza, and Miller with cheaper contracts and not carry 15. That would mean an unbalanced roster. It's about the same deal Jaylin Williams got. Although that 8M may be better spend to get a backup PG.

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As expected.

If I did my math right, we have appx 8mil for NAW and stay under 2nd Apron. I am assuming we drop and replace Minott, Garza, and Miller with cheaper contracts and not carry 15. That would mean an unbalanced roster. It's about the same deal Jaylin Williams got. Although that 8M may be better spend to get a backup PG.

NAW is getting more than that elsewhere, he’s gone unless Donte DiVencenzo gets traded, which seems unlikely. Hopefully he finds a good starting gig!