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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1941 » by Johnny Fontane » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:33 pm

carnageta wrote:Duncan is a nice piece to have (just not for 20m / season). Wouldn't mind him returning on a team-friendly contract (i.e. 3/33m).

Remember, some of our best offense to date has been the Duncan / Bam pick&roll / dribble-handoff. Miami runs on Duncan :lol:


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Post#1942 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:34 pm

carnageta wrote:Duncan is a nice piece to have (just not for 20m / season). Wouldn't mind him returning on a team-friendly contract (i.e. 3/33m).

Remember, some of our best offense to date has been the Duncan / Bam pick&roll / dribble-handoff. Miami runs on Duncan :lol:


Heat depended too much on Duncan which made some fans resent him and create some false reality as if Duncan had a max contract
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Post#1943 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:34 pm

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He realistically opted out of around 10 million. If he had exercised his option the Heat could have cut him and paid him the portion of his final year that is guaranteed. Just under 10 million.


Barry's tweet indicates there was a $20 million cap savings (from 8 over the tax to 12 under it).


Yeah if the Heat kept him on the roster it is 20 million. They had the option to cut him after he exercised his option and owe him just under 10 because the final year of his deal wasn't fully guaranteed. Thats why people thought he'd be attractive to PHX in a KD trade. Duncan could've been in the trade, the Suns cut him, pay the partial guarantee and that helps them get under the 2nd apron.


Right, but there was never a mechanism to get out of the FULL 20 million, which is what Barry is saying happened.
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Post#1945 » by MartianTimeSlip » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:37 pm

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Post#1946 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:37 pm

Every indication is that Duncan is resigning. When he resigns and how that effects the Heat ability to makes moves is interesting. I assume Heat has Bird Rights.
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Post#1947 » by fincane30 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:37 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
fincane30 wrote:
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Barry's tweet indicates there was a $20 million cap savings (from 8 over the tax to 12 under it).


Yeah if the Heat kept him on the roster it is 20 million. They had the option to cut him after he exercised his option and owe him just under 10 because the final year of his deal wasn't fully guaranteed. Thats why people thought he'd be attractive to PHX in a KD trade. Duncan could've been in the trade, the Suns cut him, pay the partial guarantee and that helps them get under the 2nd apron.


Right, but there was never a mechanism to get out of the FULL 20 million, which is what Barry is saying happened.


Correct. The only way they could save 20 million is by Duncan doing what he did today. Not opting in. He's completely off the Heat's books for the time being. And if he does come back it will be for a starting salary that keeps the Heat below the tax line.
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Post#1948 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:38 pm

fincane30 wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:
fincane30 wrote:
Yeah if the Heat kept him on the roster it is 20 million. They had the option to cut him after he exercised his option and owe him just under 10 because the final year of his deal wasn't fully guaranteed. Thats why people thought he'd be attractive to PHX in a KD trade. Duncan could've been in the trade, the Suns cut him, pay the partial guarantee and that helps them get under the 2nd apron.


Right, but there was never a mechanism to get out of the FULL 20 million, which is what Barry is saying happened.


Correct. The only way they could save 20 million is by Duncan doing what he did today. Not opting in. He's completely off the Heat's books for the time being. And if he does come back it will be for a starting salary that keeps the Heat below the tax line.


This is good news compared to having to carry that 9.9 mil in dead cap after cutting Duncan.
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Post#1949 » by fincane30 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:39 pm

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Post#1950 » by MartianTimeSlip » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:39 pm

Please, let Duncan go. Stop holding on to mediocre one dimensional players.
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Post#1951 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:40 pm

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Post#1952 » by Johnny Fontane » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:41 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
fincane30 wrote:
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Right, but there was never a mechanism to get out of the FULL 20 million, which is what Barry is saying happened.


Correct. The only way they could save 20 million is by Duncan doing what he did today. Not opting in. He's completely off the Heat's books for the time being. And if he does come back it will be for a starting salary that keeps the Heat below the tax line.


This is good news compared to having to carry that 9.9 mil in dead cap after cutting Duncan.


It saves the Heat the dead cap but we’re looking at likely 3 more years of Duncan
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Post#1953 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:43 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:
fincane30 wrote:
Correct. The only way they could save 20 million is by Duncan doing what he did today. Not opting in. He's completely off the Heat's books for the time being. And if he does come back it will be for a starting salary that keeps the Heat below the tax line.


This is good news compared to having to carry that 9.9 mil in dead cap after cutting Duncan.


It saves the Heat the dead cap but we’re looking at likely 3 more years of Duncan


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Post#1954 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:47 pm

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Duncan likely returns and that’s hilarious because the whole 2026 plan was just a lie to appease the fanbase and get us to start hoping for something.

“Miami is setting themselves up to have $80M in cap space”

“Miami refuses to take on ANY long term money in Jimmy deals as they have big plans for summer 2026”

This franchise doesn’t have a plan and they don’t even know what direction they want to go in. Wonder what we could’ve actually got for Jimmy
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Post#1955 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:48 pm

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Post#1956 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:49 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MartianTimeSlip wrote:
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Duncan likely returns and that’s hilarious because the whole 2026 plan was just a lie to appease the fanbase and get us to start hoping for something.

“Miami is setting themselves up to have $80M in cap space”

“Miami refuses to take on ANY long term money in Jimmy deals as they have big plans for summer 2026”

This franchise doesn’t have a plan and they don’t even know what direction they want to go in. Wonder what we could’ve actually got for Jimmy


There isn't going to be any big 2026 free agency sweepstakes anyways. It was a dumb plan to begin with, if that even was their plan.
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Post#1957 » by Daffy » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:50 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MartianTimeSlip wrote:
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Duncan likely returns and that’s hilarious because the whole 2026 plan was just a lie to appease the fanbase and get us to start hoping for something.

“Miami is setting themselves up to have $80M in cap space”

“Miami refuses to take on ANY long term money in Jimmy deals as they have big plans for summer 2026”

This franchise doesn’t have a plan and they don’t even know what direction they want to go in. Wonder what we could’ve actually got for Jimmy



Imagine a world where Luka hits FA and we no longer have cap space.
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Post#1958 » by Daffy » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:50 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
MartianTimeSlip wrote:
Read on Twitter


Duncan likely returns and that’s hilarious because the whole 2026 plan was just a lie to appease the fanbase and get us to start hoping for something.

“Miami is setting themselves up to have $80M in cap space”

“Miami refuses to take on ANY long term money in Jimmy deals as they have big plans for summer 2026”

This franchise doesn’t have a plan and they don’t even know what direction they want to go in. Wonder what we could’ve actually got for Jimmy


There isn't going to be any big 2026 free agency sweepstakes anyways. It was a dumb plan to begin with, if that even was their plan.



Until Luka or Trae Young sign those contracts im not giving up hope. Even Fox.
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Post#1959 » by mg » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:52 pm

Lakers just sold for billions and I'm sure Luka is part of the deal. He's not hitting free agency.
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Post#1960 » by twix2500 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:53 pm

So now I assume the next step is trading Wiggins, Jaquez, Anderson and Rozier

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