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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#21 » by DayofMourning » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:35 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Does Charlotte even have a big anymore? They might be gearing up to make a run at hometown hero Edrice.


Kon for Bam?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#22 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:38 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Does Charlotte even have a big anymore? They might be gearing up to make a run at hometown hero Edrice.


Kon for Bam?


There’s our Duncan replacement
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#23 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:39 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#24 » by Hoops3355 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:40 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:Is Kuminga that much better than JJJ if we featured JJJ the way we would have to for Kuminga?

Last year was a down year for JJJ, and he was still better per minute than Kuminga at pretty much everything and more efficient, just had far less usage and shots. Normally I'd roll my eyes at comparing someone taking a lot less shots than someone else and assuming a similar efficiency would be maintained with the bump but with JJJ I really think part of his struggle has been low usage and not getting a rhythm.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=jaqueja01&year_min=2025&player_id1=kuminjo01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=kuminjo01&utm_source=bbr

Either way, Kuminga seems like character wise he is not a good fit, and JJJ is a total team player. The age difference isn't that different either. Not sure I want to move JJJ or cut his minutes to get someone who isn't quantifiably more talented to be given the ball to chuck. Especially if JJJ was benched for this dude it might be bad for culture.


JK legit just circles us back to Jimmy and Bam problem. JK can't shot 3s. Has terrible shot mechanics so it's not getting fixed. It just seems like it's fake smoke. I just don't see how Pat and Spo are like this is the guy. JJJ very similar definitely not as athletic but his shooting motion isn't horrible.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#25 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:43 pm

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MartyConlonJr wrote:Is Kuminga that much better than JJJ if we featured JJJ the way we would have to for Kuminga?

Last year was a down year for JJJ, and he was still better per minute than Kuminga at pretty much everything and more efficient, just had far less usage and shots. Normally I'd roll my eyes at comparing someone taking a lot less shots than someone else and assuming a similar efficiency would be maintained with the bump but with JJJ I really think part of his struggle has been low usage and not getting a rhythm.f

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=jaqueja01&year_min=2025&player_id1=kuminjo01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=kuminjo01&utm_source=bbr

Either way, Kuminga seems like character wise he is not a good fit, and JJJ is a total team player. The age difference isn't that different either. Not sure I want to move JJJ or cut his minutes to get someone who isn't quantifiably more talented to be given the ball to chuck. Especially if JJJ was benched for this dude it might be bad for culture.


JK legit just circles us back to Jimmy and Bam problem. JK can't shot 3s. Has terrible shot mechanics so it's not getting fixed. It just seems like it's fake smoke. I just don't see how Pat and Spo are like this is the guy. JJJ very similar definitely not as athletic but his shooting motion isn't horrible.

If there is legitimate interest in Kuminga, you can bet Spo is a big reason why
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#26 » by MartyConlonJr » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:46 pm

That Sexton trade was wild. Giving up a second rounder to get worse and to take on more salary.

We could have given them Duncan Robinson for Sexton and they could have waived him. Ainge and Riley must really hate each other. But if Ainge is trading out talent to ensure he is worse for the tank, John Collins and Terry Rozier are just about a dollar for dollar match.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#27 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:50 pm

After drafting KJ and resigning Davion I dont believe we were interested in bringing on another PG that would require playing time
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#28 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:53 pm

No way Duncan opts out unless we gave him a promise to bring him back on a 3 year deal if he cant recoup the lost money in free agency.

Very strange move..we might have a sign and trade already set up...
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#29 » by Hoops3355 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:56 pm

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MartyConlonJr wrote:Is Kuminga that much better than JJJ if we featured JJJ the way we would have to for Kuminga?

Last year was a down year for JJJ, and he was still better per minute than Kuminga at pretty much everything and more efficient, just had far less usage and shots. Normally I'd roll my eyes at comparing someone taking a lot less shots than someone else and assuming a similar efficiency would be maintained with the bump but with JJJ I really think part of his struggle has been low usage and not getting a rhythm.f

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=jaqueja01&year_min=2025&player_id1=kuminjo01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=kuminjo01&utm_source=bbr

Either way, Kuminga seems like character wise he is not a good fit, and JJJ is a total team player. The age difference isn't that different either. Not sure I want to move JJJ or cut his minutes to get someone who isn't quantifiably more talented to be given the ball to chuck. Especially if JJJ was benched for this dude it might be bad for culture.


JK legit just circles us back to Jimmy and Bam problem. JK can't shot 3s. Has terrible shot mechanics so it's not getting fixed. It just seems like it's fake smoke. I just don't see how Pat and Spo are like this is the guy. JJJ very similar definitely not as athletic but his shooting motion isn't horrible.

If there is legitimate interest in Kuminga, you can bet Spo is a big reason why


Why there's nothing about his game that screams Spo is gonna love him. He's lazy on defense which we know whose #1 pet peeve that is. On offense he draws fouls and goes 1/2 at the charity stripe 40% time.I guess it really just depends on what we offer him anything under 2 years and 30m imo I'd work with it if it's like a zero cost situation. Run these guys to 2028 and reset it then if Herro doesn't make another leap.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#30 » by carnageta » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:58 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:No way Duncan opts out unless we gave him a promise to bring him back on a 3 year deal if he cant recoup the lost money in free agency.

Very strange move..we might have a sign and trade already set up...


Either that, or his agent informed him that there is an another team with serious interest whom is willing to give him a longer contract.


Duncan is one of the best shooters in the NBA. Out of any role-player in the league, the amount of 'gravity' he garners is significant.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#31 » by DayofMourning » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:02 pm

What r the Vegas odds on Duncans next team being GSW or LAL?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#32 » by SA37 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:06 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#33 » by SA37 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:08 pm

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For once I have to agree with Bartholomew


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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#34 » by Vertical Limit » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:09 pm

DayofMourning wrote:What r the Vegas odds on Duncans next team being GSW or LAL?

I hope theyre very high, i want to move on badly. I can see many west coast teams explore the possibility of adding 3 point shooting to their bench..

Hell the Knicks would gladly take him if hes available at the minimum but he will get more than that.

We have to move on though if the asking price is beyond.

3 years 21 million okay, im good with that. 10-12 million per season im out.

Let him get offers, we stand still.

The very next move needs to be getting expirings for wiggins.

And then buyout rozier
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#35 » by SA37 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:10 pm

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That is a very sobering list.

I do like Bobby Portis, though. Not sure Lopez makes sense unless Miami thinks he'd be a great mentor for Ware.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#36 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:14 pm

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Post#37 » by SA37 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:16 pm

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Well...there goes that idea :lol:

Portis said he wasn't giving a hometown discount, but he certainly gave them a discount. I think he could have gotten $20M/season. Maybe he doesn't have an agent :lol:

All-in for Brook Lopez!
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#38 » by DayofMourning » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:16 pm

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That is a very sobering list.

I do like Bobby Portis, though. Not sure Lopez makes sense unless Miami thinks he'd be a great mentor for Ware.


Im not even looking at any of those dudes. Weve got plenty of mouths to feed.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#39 » by heatwillbeback » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:18 pm

I could see something like 3/35 For Duncan. It would essentially he a 2/15 extension, which I think is fair.

Crazy we never got a chance to trade that expiring we've been taking about since so soon he signed the original deal.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#40 » by MartyCONLONNN » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:21 pm

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That is a very sobering list.

I do like Bobby Portis, though. Not sure Lopez makes sense unless Miami thinks he'd be a great mentor for Ware.


Brook Lopez would be an awesome stretch and drop defender + we don’t have a real rotation backup 5. Would help big time with the spacing/shooting.

Also can’t have enough 3&D wings as you saw from the Pacers and even Knicks.

Is there another young potential player in FA? btw if we sign someone with it, or even sign Duncan. it means they are really going for it & may have something up their sleeves bc they have all the reason to remain under the tax if they are not contending.

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