Official Trade Thread Part XLVII

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

If we're not a bottom 4 team, it's front office and coaching malpractice. Dawkins better make sure Keefe understands the assignment here. Silver already lining things up for Boston to land #1 overall. Leave room for another big market/prodigal son type franchise to unexpectedly underachieve and win another top pick, and that only leaves maybe #3 and #4 at the top of the lottery. It's going to be us, Charlotte, and Utah fighting over those couple of top spots. Maybe Sacramento who is back in their more comfortable spot in the cellar with us.

I'm imagining Tre scoring an easy 20 a game. Who else gonna shoot.

Social media showing Ace smiling in Utah so I guess that distant dream is dead. Might be overdramatizing but it feels like Ace is already being set up to fail in Utah. A lot of scrutiny in a small pond and I'm not sure the Utah fan base is going to be all that friendly and welcoming if Ace struggles outside the gate.

The new guy, Dillon Jones, looks like G-League fodder, no? Along with our second round pick this year, both provide some grit and grind attitude, seems like. I like the idea of guys like that around Sarr and even Tre. Bilal and Bub already have some nasty to their games.

Coaching malpractice if we’re not a bottom 4 team? I get it, we need that pick next year. We also need to continue to build winning habits. We’re in a tough situation where, assuming the level of play is similar to post ASB, they’re going to be competitive in most games. Factor in the East being weaker and our rookies having more experience. I want everyone to be fully prepared for a 25-30 win season.

I don't care about the 2026 draft or what any of you are saying.

Let the season play out organically.

Put the best players on the floor, using a deep roster, where 10-11 guys play each game.

Ration out playing time according to a meritocracy.

Coach to win each quarter of each game.

Truly let the cream rise.

If the Wizards end up 41-41, you end up trading guys like McCollum, Smart, Olynyk, and KISPERT to teams that are making a push or are offloading contracts.

They owe it to the fans to stop being ass.

You play to win the game.

If they win 31 games and lose the pick; God-willing if I'm alive and well posting here in July 2026, come back and tell me how foolish I've been.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Indy has shown that you don’t actually need a “superstar” to compete. They made it to the finals and a 7th game with two stars (Haliburton & Siakim), depth, and defense.

Yes, I want a superstar (or two) but I like the type of team the Zards FO is building in the absence of a superstar—tall, long defenders 2-3 deep at every position.

Exactly.

Tanking for a superstar is dumb.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

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He also set up a great dude, Jared Butler, with a nice NBA contract in a good place to succeed.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Pistons are presumably hunting for a Beasley replacement. Assuming Ivey is healthy and ready to return to the starting lineup, what could we get from Detroit for Kispert?

Beasley really matter to them. He played well. That sucks . I hope it's just a misunderstanding.

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The feds don't miss too often. If they have a case, he's probably done for.

I assume they have him dead to rights on the gambling. That's just going to earn him a league suspension.

OTOH, if Malik Beasley is found to be involved in point shaving, he's going to jail like Johntay Porter. He's done if it's that.

[PaulinVA]

Size of the selection set is likely too small. Just say he is in the top tier of NBA players.

Piffffffff….i hope you’re doing ok my brother. Agreed.

Since u bring up the subject mon ami...

Last Wednesday, doc and i met at mcgintys. in silver spring to watch R1 unfold.

On the way home i stopped at a cvs and picked up a couple of cartons of soda. Heading back to the car I stepped off a curb w/o noticing it was there.

At my age, esp w/ arms full, there was no catching myself, & down i went -- hard.

i fractured my right elbow and a shoulder bone Spent much of the night in the ER.

The fractures aren't displaced, & with some luck i'll avoid surgery. But i am all splinted and slung and in a fair amount of pain. Mostly immobile, sleep sitting up, etc. Sucks....

This too will pass... I hope!

I'm sure I speak for us all when I wish you a speedy recovery.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Wizards need to look for another Gilbert Arenas career trajectory player.

They do not have to draft a potential superstar when some team will be dumb enough to let one go, possibly for free.

Trade for a superstar.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Why? Why would they be all in on '26-'27? We have zero franchise players as of now, 12 month's from essentially the start of the '26-'27. I hear a lot of people making this statement and I really don't get it. If we land Dybantsa, Peterson, or Boozer, that's 1, potentially, but right now, to me, if you're arguing we'll be out of the tanking business in '26-'27, you must believe we have a superstar franchise guy in house. Who is he? Tre?

All in meaning playoff contention, not championship.. This upcoming season will be Year 5. Yeah Winger and Dawkins just got here like 2 years ago but 5 years is more than enough time and I think the goal should have always been 2026-2027 because that's when we actually have full control of our first round picks again.

Meh. I believe the Robbins article where he cites front office sources as saying they expect to be in the rebuilding and assessment phase at least until 2028. They are not in a hurry. I bet some urgency is delayed until the new building opens.

This is discouraging.

It's like waiting 2 years to look for the woman of your dreams when she might be at a table nearby, trying to get your attention.

They are locked into a lunkhead lockstep approach if this is true.

"Oh, we're just gonna keep losing. Thank you very much."

[AFM]

Size of the selection set is likely too small. Just say he is in the top tier of NBA players.

Piffffffff….i hope you’re doing ok my brother. Agreed.

Since u bring up the subject mon ami...

Last Wednesday, doc and i met at mcgintys. in silver spring to watch R1 unfold.

On the way home i stopped at a cvs and picked up a couple of cartons of soda. Heading back to the car I stepped off a curb w/o noticing it was there.

At my age, esp w/ arms full, there was no catching myself, & down i went -- hard.

i fractured my right elbow and a shoulder bone Spent much of the night in the ER.

The fractures aren't displaced, & with some luck i'll avoid surgery. But i am all splinted and slung and in a fair amount of pain. Mostly immobile, sleep sitting up, etc. Sucks....

This too will pass... I hope!

Hey amigo, you know what works well for pain?

[AFM]

The Wizards need to look for another Gilbert Arenas career trajectory player.

They do not have to trade for a potential superstar when some team will be dumb enough to let one go, possibly for free.

Trade for a superstar.

Another Arenas you say?

Watch on YouTube

[gesa2]

Size of the selection set is likely too small. Just say he is in the top tier of NBA players.

Piffffffff….i hope you’re doing ok my brother. Agreed.

Since u bring up the subject mon ami...

Last Wednesday, doc and i met at mcgintys. in silver spring to watch R1 unfold.

On the way home i stopped at a cvs and picked up a couple of cartons of soda. Heading back to the car I stepped off a curb w/o noticing it was there.

At my age, esp w/ arms full, there was no catching myself, & down i went -- hard.

i fractured my right elbow and a shoulder bone Spent much of the night in the ER.

The fractures aren't displaced, & with some luck i'll avoid surgery. But i am all splinted and slung and in a fair amount of pain. Mostly immobile, sleep sitting up, etc. Sucks....

This too will pass... I hope!

Here’s to a speedy recovery PIF!! Don’t stay too immobile for long, it’s hard to get range of motion back after you lose it. Selfishly hoping you’re not sedated and your fingers keep working.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Size of the selection set is likely too small. Just say he is in the top tier of NBA players.

Piffffffff….i hope you’re doing ok my brother. Agreed.

Since u bring up the subject mon ami...

Last Wednesday, doc and i met at mcgintys. in silver spring to watch R1 unfold.

On the way home i stopped at a cvs and picked up a couple of cartons of soda. Heading back to the car I stepped off a curb w/o noticing it was there.

At my age, esp w/ arms full, there was no catching myself, & down i went -- hard.

i fractured my right elbow and a shoulder bone Spent much of the night in the ER.

The fractures aren't displaced, & with some luck i'll avoid surgery. But i am all splinted and slung and in a fair amount of pain. Mostly immobile, sleep sitting up, etc. Sucks....

This too will pass... I hope!

Whew. I was afraid to ask what happened.

My fraternity brother, who is my age, had a stroke in March.

He has weakness on one side and can not walk. After weeks of therapy, he's at home now rehabbing.

Pif, you got it right.

This, too, shall pass.

Aloha!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Wizards need to look for another Gilbert Arenas career trajectory player.

They do not have to trade for a potential superstar when some team will be dumb enough to let one go, possibly for free.

Trade for a superstar.

Another Arenas you say?

Watch on YouTube

Ironic, isn't it.

(Forget this draft? Sure, Ken.)

[doclinkin]

All in meaning playoff contention, not championship.. This upcoming season will be Year 5. Yeah Winger and Dawkins just got here like 2 years ago but 5 years is more than enough time and I think the goal should have always been 2026-2027 because that's when we actually have full control of our first round picks again.

Meh. I believe the Robbins article where he cites front office sources as saying they expect to be in the rebuilding and assessment phase at least until 2028. They are not in a hurry. I bet some urgency is delayed until the new building opens.

This is discouraging.

It's like waiting 2 years to look for the woman of your dreams when she might be at a table nearby, trying to get your attention.

They are locked into a lunkhead lockstep approach if this is true.

"Oh, we're just gonna keep losing. Thank you very much."

I don’t see it that way. We’d be only 2 years into the contract of whomever we draft in 26. We have 5 rookies from last year, plus Bilal, 3 from this year, and at least 2 1sts next year. Plus picks from 27 + 28? What team wins with literally the entire 15 man roster on rookie contracts?

Granted we may ship some. Drop some. But it took 10 years before OKC won a chip. The object is eventual championship. We are building from the ground up. Nobody is saying we tank for 10 years. Just saying realistically it’s going to take time to develop all these players.

Yes they’ve been here for 3 drafts but recall for the Bilal draft this front office was only here like 2 weeks before the draft. So in 2028 they will have only been here 4 years. Show me any team that was contending in 4 years. MJ wasn’t even that quick.

It’s not intentional losing. It’s understanding the timeline. Show me who wins on their rookie contract. Unless we are talking Duncan joining the Admiral.

We will get better, and 26 is the last year of intentional tanking. But even if we get a star in 26 it will take a minute for them to figure it out. You think they’ll win instantly? How.

The best players don’t even start to break out til year 3 or 4. And hit prime at age 26, 27. That’s still 6 years away for Bilal. I’m not saying it’ll take 7 years. I’m saying you’re unrealistic if you think this team will contend for anything quickly even if they draw the #1 overall pick.

[doclinkin]

I’ve told PIF to ping me if he needs help opening a pickle jar or whatever. So far nothing. But our guy is a stubborn old goat so he probably wont. Plus you’d be surprised but it sounds like he’s got a lot of peeps in the area who actually love him so he’s surely got all the help he needs. So I’ll go back to my primary job which is giving him a hard time.

[9 and 20]

Indy has shown that you don’t actually need a “superstar” to compete. They made it to the finals and a 7th game with two stars (Haliburton & Siakim), depth, and defense.

Yes, I want a superstar (or two) but I like the type of team the Zards FO is building in the absence of a superstar—tall, long defenders 2-3 deep at every position.

Nah what they showed was, if alot of injuries happen to multiple teams, you might luck into the finals where you'll eventually lose.... I don't wanna follow that formula as I doubt they'll be in the finals again anytime soon......

Also Sarr can be a star, so I don't know why our fans aren't reconizing what he can become.... His biggest issue is strength related, and that is easier to fix than learning how to dribble, or how to shoot, or how to pass.... Sarr is going to be a star if not a superstar, and all his doubters will have looked dumb for not seeing the obvious.... 7fters usually don't move like Alex....

I think Alex is going to outplay most if not all of his comps..... I think Alex has 25ppg, 9-10rpg 5-6apg potential with his skill set.... With an additional 2-3bpg, and 1-2spg..... That's an ALL-NBA player....

This would be a great outcome. I'm pretty sure the list of 20-10-5 with 2 blocks players is tiny though. Not just all-NBA, but all-time great, Kevin Garnett-level. I'm not convinced I see that in him.

[Rafael122]

Would the Pistons trade a first round pick with Fontechio into our TPE? It gives them $25 mil in cap room and the ability to sign NAW, who is rumored to like Detroit and Atlanta.

[nate33]

I’ve told PIF to ping me if he needs help opening a pickle jar or whatever. So far nothing. But our guy is a stubborn old goat so he probably wont. Plus you’d be surprised but it sounds like he’s got a lot of peeps in the area who actually love him so he’s surely got all the help he needs. So I’ll go back to my primary job which is giving him a hard time.

Feel better PIF!

[nate33]

Would the Pistons trade a first round pick with Fontechio into our TPE? It gives them $25 mil in cap room and the ability to sign NAW, who is rumored to like Detroit and Atlanta.

Didn't they already use a chunk of their TPE to acquire Porzingis?

[nate33]

If we're not a bottom 4 team, it's front office and coaching malpractice. Dawkins better make sure Keefe understands the assignment here. Silver already lining things up for Boston to land #1 overall. Leave room for another big market/prodigal son type franchise to unexpectedly underachieve and win another top pick, and that only leaves maybe #3 and #4 at the top of the lottery. It's going to be us, Charlotte, and Utah fighting over those couple of top spots. Maybe Sacramento who is back in their more comfortable spot in the cellar with us.

I'm imagining Tre scoring an easy 20 a game. Who else gonna shoot.

Social media showing Ace smiling in Utah so I guess that distant dream is dead. Might be overdramatizing but it feels like Ace is already being set up to fail in Utah. A lot of scrutiny in a small pond and I'm not sure the Utah fan base is going to be all that friendly and welcoming if Ace struggles outside the gate.

The new guy, Dillon Jones, looks like G-League fodder, no? Along with our second round pick this year, both provide some grit and grind attitude, seems like. I like the idea of guys like that around Sarr and even Tre. Bilal and Bub already have some nasty to their games.

Coaching malpractice if we’re not a bottom 4 team? I get it, we need that pick next year. We also need to continue to build winning habits. We’re in a tough situation where, assuming the level of play is similar to post ASB, they’re going to be competitive in most games. Factor in the East being weaker and our rookies having more experience. I want everyone to be fully prepared for a 25-30 win season.

I don't care about the 2026 draft or what any of you are saying.

Let the season play out organically.

Put the best players on the floor, using a deep roster, where 10-11 guys play each game.

Rational the playing time according to a meritocracy.

Coach to win each quarter of each game.

Truly let the cream rise.

If the Wizards end up 41-41, you end up trading guys like McCollum, Smart, Olynyk, and KISPERT to teams that are making a push or are offloading contracts.

They owe it to the fans to stop being ass.

You play to win the game.

If they win 31 games and lose the pick; God-willing if I'm alive and well posting here in July 2026, come back and tell me how foolish I've been.

They should do all of this NEXT YEAR. This year, they MUST finish in the bottom 6. I'm not saying we should put together a totally depressing 15-win season. Something like 26 wins should be okay. That's winning every 3rd game, which should be enough to keep morale up.

For the most part I think that's pretty much all this team is capable of anyhow. But if they start getting a little too good in the second half of the season, we might need some mystery injuries to avoid too many wins down the stretch.

[nate33]

I wouldn’t put Tatum on there. Maybe prime Kawhi but no longer. Superstar is an MVP candidate.

Tatum has been All-NBA 1st team in 4 straight years and has won a championship. Yeah, he has never been an actual MVP candidate, but I think that resume qualifies for superstar. I'd actually prefer him over Luka at this point given his consistency and durability (until the Achilles', that is). Tatum isn't as dominant as an offensive hub, but his defensive versatility is crucial to help Boston field such dominating defensive lineups.