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Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread pt. 2 (update: poll added 6/18/25)

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Who will be the next coach of the New York Knicks?

Poll ended at Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:31 pm

Mike Brown
24
18%
Taylor Jenkins
42
32%
Johnnie Bryant
27
20%
Mike Malone
5
4%
James Borrego
7
5%
Mike Budenholzer
1
1%
Rick Brunson
4
3%
Jeff Van Gundy
6
5%
Jason Kidd
10
8%
Other
7
5%
 
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Post#1381 » by Guano » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:38 pm

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Guano wrote:Ill take mike brown and bron over giannis and Kidd pls & ty


I'm team Mike Brown over Kidd, but I'll take Giannis/Kidd pairing any day. Giannis is still 30 years old, and if he follows the pattern of other elites like KD and Lebron playing high level deep into their 30's, Knicks would extend their championship window


Unless Giannis develops a J he is gonna age like milk.
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Post#1382 » by knickstape4ever » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:41 pm

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Guano wrote:Ill take mike brown and bron over giannis and Kidd pls & ty


I'm team Mike Brown over Kidd, but I'll take Giannis/Kidd pairing any day. Giannis is still 30 years old, and if he follows the pattern of other elites like KD and Lebron playing high level deep into their 30's, Knicks would extend their championship window


Unless Giannis develops a J he is gonna age like milk.


I don't think so, he's such an elite athlete and he takes excellent care of himself, hard-working. he'll find ways to dominate. he still has great footwork down low and his size/wingspan will allow him to be a solid defender even if he loses a step
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Post#1383 » by Guano » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:45 pm

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I'm team Mike Brown over Kidd, but I'll take Giannis/Kidd pairing any day. Giannis is still 30 years old, and if he follows the pattern of other elites like KD and Lebron playing high level deep into their 30's, Knicks would extend their championship window


Unless Giannis develops a J he is gonna age like milk.


I don't think so, he's such an elite athlete and he takes excellent care of himself, hard-working. he'll find ways to dominate. he still has great footwork down low and his size/wingspan will allow him to be a solid defender even if he loses a step


Idk seems very hopeful, id rather take the chance on 1 or 2 years with Bron with the the hope that the league cooks for us than watch Giannis turn into a tall westbrook.

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Post#1384 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:46 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Dolan put the front office in a really bad spot.


Leon hasn’t done himself any favors with this search either. This is the biggest hire in Leon tenure and he’s interviewed 4 people. We all knew he was gonna hire Thibs last time and he interviewed more people than he’s done this time. If you’re gonna believe Knicks fan tv, it sounds like they’ve already narrowed it down to brown or jenkins. Why not cast a wide net? There has to be other rock star assistants than Nori and Borrego. Why not call up Bud or Vogul? The process just doesn’t make sense to me.


I think part of the reason they did it last time was to highlight other coaches on the CAA roster. Also, they did hire Mike Woodson and there is a chance they were looking for the Associate Head Coach during the HC hunt.

The FO seems like they want to hire someone with playoff experience who could potentially lead a team to the finals and beyond. When they hired Thibs they were looking for a culture creator. Both of those are different expectations, and the pool for people who can go that next step is shorter.

I also think they are going to come away from this with both a Head Coach and an associate HC. Certain coaches thrive from that system and I will argue that Thibs became a worse coach once he didn’t have an associate head coach here either.

Honestly if they hadn’t fired Thibs they would have needed to hire an associate Head coach to help him manage the team.


Hmm If I was gonna rank the Thibs best coaching season:
1/2. covid Randle led team
2/1. the one where everyone got hurt
3. first Brunson year and the round 2 loss against Miami
4. ECF run
5. Randle thumbs down year.

Woodson was gone by year 2 and did payne leave after year 2? Bryant joined Atkinson staff before this year. So 2 of the first 3 season but also his worst in my rankings had some assistants that were forced on him. Pushing an assistant or two on Thibs would have been my preferred path.

I agree that they’re looking for different things in the next coach, I just don’t agree with the criteria. There’s also several free agent coaches out there with rings that haven’t been rumored to be interviewed. If that’s the path they truly want, call up Vogul, bud, and Malone too.

It’s just more common for some to come from no where to lead a team to a title than what Vogul did with the lakers and who knows if that team would have won if they didn’t have 3 months off cuz of covid. Mazzula was a second row guy, Spo a video coordinator, and iirc the thunders coach was a g league coach. We should be trying to uncover the next great coach and it’s been really safe and uninspired. The Mike Browns of the world aren’t going anywhere.
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Post#1385 » by WargamesX » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:12 am

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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
Leon hasn’t done himself any favors with this search either. This is the biggest hire in Leon tenure and he’s interviewed 4 people. We all knew he was gonna hire Thibs last time and he interviewed more people than he’s done this time. If you’re gonna believe Knicks fan tv, it sounds like they’ve already narrowed it down to brown or jenkins. Why not cast a wide net? There has to be other rock star assistants than Nori and Borrego. Why not call up Bud or Vogul? The process just doesn’t make sense to me.


I think part of the reason they did it last time was to highlight other coaches on the CAA roster. Also, they did hire Mike Woodson and there is a chance they were looking for the Associate Head Coach during the HC hunt.

The FO seems like they want to hire someone with playoff experience who could potentially lead a team to the finals and beyond. When they hired Thibs they were looking for a culture creator. Both of those are different expectations, and the pool for people who can go that next step is shorter.

I also think they are going to come away from this with both a Head Coach and an associate HC. Certain coaches thrive from that system and I will argue that Thibs became a worse coach once he didn’t have an associate head coach here either.

Honestly if they hadn’t fired Thibs they would have needed to hire an associate Head coach to help him manage the team.


Hmm If I was gonna rank the Thibs best coaching season:
1/2. covid Randle led team
2/1. the one where everyone got hurt
3. first Brunson year and the round 2 loss against Miami
4. ECF run
5. Randle thumbs down year.

Woodson was gone by year 2 and did payne leave after year 2? Bryant joined Atkinson staff before this year. So 2 of the first 3 season but also his worst in my rankings had some assistants that were forced on him. Pushing an assistant or two on Thibs would have been my preferred path.

I agree that they’re looking for different things in the next coach, I just don’t agree with the criteria. There’s also several free agent coaches out there with rings that haven’t been rumored to be interviewed. If that’s the path they truly want, call up Vogul, bud, and Malone too.

It’s just more common for some to come from no where to lead a team to a title than what Vogul did with the lakers and who knows if that team would have won if they didn’t have 3 months off cuz of covid. Mazzula was a second row guy, Spo a video coordinator, and iirc the thunders coach was a g league coach. We should be trying to uncover the next great coach and it’s been really safe and uninspired. The Mike Browns of the world aren’t going anywhere.

I thought this was the first year without there being an Associate Head coach. Originally the rumor was it was Mo Cheeks but he was just on the bench giving side eye and looking annoyed.

I also agree with you it would be nice and like I said earlier they might be giving the assistant HC a hard look. I just think the amount of scrutiny this next coach gets (and by default the org as a whole) is going to lead to the, playing on the safe side.

Also idk Brown is a 2X coach if the year winner. He’s won multiple championships as an Associate Head coach, has led multiple teams some good, some bad. His resume is closer to Thibs than I think people realize.

The thing with brown is really two things:
1) He is a good culture coach with defensive chops (Thibs like). He has done better when he has an assistant to do the X and O’s offensively for him.

2) He tends to start strong and then taper off as locker rooms start to tune him out. Why we don’t know but I think it is because he is very critical of his players publicly.

To bring him here you got to give him an assistant to help him run the offense and to lead the locker room.

It’s why I keep hoping it’s Brown X Nori being brought in. Nori can help Brown in his weak areas and say what you want there Brown doesn’t have a history of being overwhelmed on the playoffs. He’s been there before so they don’t got to worry about that.
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Post#1386 » by knickstape4ever » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:12 am

Guano wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
Guano wrote:
Unless Giannis develops a J he is gonna age like milk.


I don't think so, he's such an elite athlete and he takes excellent care of himself, hard-working. he'll find ways to dominate. he still has great footwork down low and his size/wingspan will allow him to be a solid defender even if he loses a step


Idk seems very hopeful, id rather take the chance on 1 or 2 years with Bron with the the hope that the league cooks for us than watch Giannis turn into a tall westbrook.

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Giannis at worst still has 3-4 years of being an elite athlete. and what's the drop-off? from elite to good athlete? still w/ elite intangibles and measurables. with the care that goes into athletes bodies, especially the elite one's, 35 is the new 25. Lebron isn't still great because he can shoot, it's the total impact on the game. Giannis is similar
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Post#1387 » by DaGawd » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:26 am

Guano wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
Guano wrote:
Unless Giannis develops a J he is gonna age like milk.


I don't think so, he's such an elite athlete and he takes excellent care of himself, hard-working. he'll find ways to dominate. he still has great footwork down low and his size/wingspan will allow him to be a solid defender even if he loses a step


Idk seems very hopeful, id rather take the chance on 1 or 2 years with Bron with the the hope that the league cooks for us than watch Giannis turn into a tall westbrook.

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nahhhh giannis>>> 1-2 years of bron
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Post#1390 » by Gravy » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:05 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
Leon hasn’t done himself any favors with this search either. This is the biggest hire in Leon tenure and he’s interviewed 4 people. We all knew he was gonna hire Thibs last time and he interviewed more people than he’s done this time. If you’re gonna believe Knicks fan tv, it sounds like they’ve already narrowed it down to brown or jenkins. Why not cast a wide net? There has to be other rock star assistants than Nori and Borrego. Why not call up Bud or Vogul? The process just doesn’t make sense to me.


I think part of the reason they did it last time was to highlight other coaches on the CAA roster. Also, they did hire Mike Woodson and there is a chance they were looking for the Associate Head Coach during the HC hunt.

The FO seems like they want to hire someone with playoff experience who could potentially lead a team to the finals and beyond. When they hired Thibs they were looking for a culture creator. Both of those are different expectations, and the pool for people who can go that next step is shorter.

I also think they are going to come away from this with both a Head Coach and an associate HC. Certain coaches thrive from that system and I will argue that Thibs became a worse coach once he didn’t have an associate head coach here either.

Honestly if they hadn’t fired Thibs they would have needed to hire an associate Head coach to help him manage the team.


Hmm If I was gonna rank the Thibs best coaching season:
1/2. covid Randle led team
2/1. the one where everyone got hurt
3. first Brunson year and the round 2 loss against Miami
4. ECF run
5. Randle thumbs down year.

Woodson was gone by year 2 and did payne leave after year 2? Bryant joined Atkinson staff before this year. So 2 of the first 3 season but also his worst in my rankings had some assistants that were forced on him. Pushing an assistant or two on Thibs would have been my preferred path.

I agree that they’re looking for different things in the next coach, I just don’t agree with the criteria. There’s also several free agent coaches out there with rings that haven’t been rumored to be interviewed. If that’s the path they truly want, call up Vogul, bud, and Malone too.

It’s just more common for some to come from no where to lead a team to a title than what Vogul did with the lakers and who knows if that team would have won if they didn’t have 3 months off cuz of covid. Mazzula was a second row guy, Spo a video coordinator, and iirc the thunders coach was a g league coach. We should be trying to uncover the next great coach and it’s been really safe and uninspired. The Mike Browns of the world aren’t going anywhere.

The common examples of assistants coming out nowhere to win a title is misleading. Mazzula already had a stacked 50 win team with a MVP, OKC roster is stacked with a MVP, raptors got kawhi and timely injuries in the finals, Spo has only won with the big three. Even Kerr had the greatest shooting backcourt ever.

Most average coaches could have win with those teams, Thibs would have won with stacked rosters like that. Are we putting our roster up there with the warriors dynasty or bron Cavs?
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Post#1392 » by FrozenEnvelope » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:48 pm

Why would a free agent sign with a team with no coach? Especially a bench player who's minutes are not guaranteed.
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Post#1393 » by BKlutch » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:10 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:Why would a free agent sign with a team with no coach? Especially a bench player who's minutes are not guaranteed.

Not only that but why wouldn’t all our best players ask for buyouts? Tragedeigh!
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Post#1394 » by CharlesOakley » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:20 pm

I don't ever want to see Lebron in a Knicks uniform. The Lakers is the correct team for that star phucker.
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Post#1396 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:47 pm

Ian says coaching situation should be resolved this week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#1398 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:53 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:Ian says coaching situation should be resolved this week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I said the same thing last week. Way to break news Ian. :lol:
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Post#1399 » by sol537 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:55 pm

Gimme Kidd with Staley and Jenkins as assistants. Let's go.
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