The 2025 Wolves Off Season

[jpatrick]

I guess a more general question that has come post KD conversations. Do we want to actually pursue a big move? Which pathway makes more sense as at this point. Personally I just don't see a path forward without replacing Randle for a significant upgrade as a secondary scorer regardless of position. We're making small moves rn, and I think it might be kind of a waste of our ever closing window.

We won’t trade Randle now. We just signed him. Even if it were immediately moveable, it would be terrible form to sign someone and trade them within a week or two. I do think, depending on how the season plays out, Randle is very trade-able at the deadline on this extension.

I’ve always liked a Lauri Markannen shooting type PF paired with Gobert and Jaden, neither a shooter.

[Klomp]

I get it. Somebody like Tyus raises the team’s floor. I just worry it shortens Dillingham’s leash, and I’d like to see him get a legitimate opportunity. If we’re not going to play Dillingham this year, we should probably trade him.

I think possibly adding a PG actually could signal more of the end of Conley than it might about anything concerning Dillingham. I was actually even considering last night the possibility of Conley retiring and the Timberwolves waiving/stretching his contract.

Who knows but the last time Finch had to choose between Conley and Dillingham, he was going with Conley.

Sure, but what if Conley were to decide to hang it up, or to tell Finch he might be better off in an Ingles role?

Conley is a one-year venture. Dillingham is still just 20 and has much more to his NBA potential.

[moss_is_1]

I guess a more general question that has come post KD conversations. Do we want to actually pursue a big move? Which pathway makes more sense as at this point. Personally I just don't see a path forward without replacing Randle for a significant upgrade as a secondary scorer regardless of position. We're making small moves rn, and I think it might be kind of a waste of our ever closing window.

Why is our window closing? Conley, Randle, Rudy are our oldest players but only Conley is on the verge of retirement.

[moss_is_1]

Quite an uninspiring list of free agents. I can see most teams punting their exceptions down the line and hoping someone is available at the trade deadline to use it instead. Our dreams of Tyus, Brogdon, etc for the minimum probably doesn't come to fruition with the market being so bare.

PG: Tyus Jones - Tre Jones - Malcom Brogdon - Schroeder - Dante Exum - Spencer Dinwiddie - Westbrook - Jmac - Delon Wright - Tre Mann - Cam Payne - Delano Banton - De'Anthony Melton

SG: Bruce Brown - Dlo - Kennard - Gary Payton - Kevin Porter Jr - Gary Trent Jr - THJ - Talen Horton-Tucker - Lonnie Walker - Amir Coffey - Garrison Matthews - Gary Harris -

SF: Duncan Robinson - Jae'Sean Tate

PF: Jake Laravia - Taurean Prince - Trendan Watford - Yabusale

C: Luke Kornet - Thomas Bryant - Dayron Sharpe - Charles Bassey - Sandro Mamukelashvili

I left off most of the higher profile names, or the vets that are gonna stay or just go to an LAL/Miami type team.

I think we can sign a fine 3rd emergency PG for the min. We don't need any groundbreaking, I don't want someone to get in the way of Rob playing as much as he can and think Conley will bounce back a bit shooting wise with being healthier. Most likely a journeyman type but we don't need someone who has to play every night.

The centers I like all those guys listed, and for sure could see a pathway to signing 1 of them. Sharpe/Bryant intrigue me a good amount.

[BlacJacMac]

Is Malcolm Brogdon washed? At one time, he would have been a great fit next to Ant. But he’s had a lot of injuries as he hit 30s. Maybe a vet minimum insurance type.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lonzo plays more games next year.

[Slim Tubby]

Since we know this front office likes to use its prior connections, here are some names I am watching:

Tyus Jones
Bruce Brown
Gary Harris
Elfrid Payton
Monte Morris
Jordan McLaughlin
Jaxson Hayes
Mo Wagner

Mo Wagner would be a heck of a long-term chess move. He's recovering from a significant injury and could possibly be signed to a bargain 2-3 year deal if he's seeking some financial security.

I was actually quite surprised ORL is letting him walk unless they know something about his injury that we don't.

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[minimus]

Since we know this front office likes to use its prior connections, here are some names I am watching:

Tyus Jones
Bruce Brown
Gary Harris
Elfrid Payton
Monte Morris
Jordan McLaughlin
Jaxson Hayes
Mo Wagner

Mo Wagner would be a heck of a long-term chess move. He's recovering from a significant injury and could possibly be signed to a bargain 2-3 year deal if he's seeking some financial security.

I was actually quite surprised ORL is letting him walk unless they know something about his injury that we don't.

I am sure he will resign with ORL later. They have enough room

[Note30]

I guess a more general question that has come post KD conversations. Do we want to actually pursue a big move? Which pathway makes more sense as at this point. Personally I just don't see a path forward without replacing Randle for a significant upgrade as a secondary scorer regardless of position. We're making small moves rn, and I think it might be kind of a waste of our ever closing window.

Why is our window closing? Conley, Randle, Rudy are our oldest players but only Conley is on the verge of retirement.

We have no draft assets from now until 2031 under our own control. Maybe 2028?

Rudy who was our biggest investment is most likely going to be a complete shell of the player he used to be by the end of his current contract. For all of the constant insufferable comments about how he's the best player/second best player on this team, I'd assume there's going to be a drop year after year. Hence our window getting smaller and more difficult to build around.

Our core is already expensive and we've hit a wall with who we can pursue to upgrade our second scorer(the point I was trying to drive behind).

Neither Jaden nor Reid seem like they can be that second guy.

Randle is a stop gap, no team wins a chip with him as their second best player.

So yeah I'm kind of worried about our Window.

[BlacJacMac]

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[BlacJacMac]

I guess that's the minimum for him, so he replaces an empty "minimum salary" slot?

[Klomp]

We have no draft assets from now until 2031 under our own control. Maybe 2028?

2026 is just a pick swap. We will still have a pick.
2030 is just a pick swap. We will still have a pick.
2028 has not been dealt either, I believe.

[moss_is_1]

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Locker room guy/mentor. The aussie connection to help Rocco as well.

So 1 spot on the roster for a big or a PG?

[minimus]

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Gobert - Joan mentor, Ingles - Rocco mentor

[Klomp]

I guess that's the minimum for him, so he replaces an empty "minimum salary" slot?

Correct. Essentially, I think they chose Ingles over Minott. Or maybe Minott requested out, so they turned to Ingles after that.

[Klomp]

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Gobert - Joan mentor, Ingles - Rocco mentor

Also this is likely somewhat of a factor.

[BlacJacMac]

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For the record, Minott was due $2,187,481 and Garza was due $2,349,578. So essentially he replaced one of them.

[TimberKat]

Someone explain this to me...

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Locker room guy/mentor. The aussie connection to help Rocco as well.

So 1 spot on the roster for a big or a PG?

Please tell me this ain't true. We were looking to see how to have enough money to sign Jones and we wasted it on Ingles? The guy that plays 5 sec a game? I get that inbounding the ball is important but they could had paid me 1.5Mil to do that instead.

[thinktank]

Randle is a stop gap, no team wins a chip with him as their second best player.

Maybe. Maybe not.

[Klomp]

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