Shams: Raptors re-sign Garrett Temple (1yr/3.6mil)

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

Good signing. He's a great dude for the youngsters to be around.

No No NO!

So you hire him as a coach, not as a useless player. WTF? It made no sense last season. Even less this season.

He won't even get a third of that as a first-time assistant. This is doing him, and by extension the PA, a solid. He also knows his place and doesn't expect to play. This is a FAR cry from when we had 5 useless bodies at the end of the bench 2 seasons ago (Flynn, McD, OPJ, Thad, and Temple). Some of our players may prove to be just as useless, but we don't know that yet (unlike Flynn who had proven that beyond any reasonable doubt across 4 years lol).

The way Houston should be being praised by smartly trying to save that 2 mil here 3 mil there, we rationalize giving it away Willy nilly when we know we have needs.

Stop paying people just to be nice, it’s not nice to us the fans. I was hoping this would leave with Masai.

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

expected and i have no issues with it.

also , he counts $2.3 mil to the cap, and the raptors pay him $2.3 mil, NBA pays him the rest $1.3mil

Does that is $2.3 million closer to the luxury tax, no?

What about using part or all of the MLE on Luke Kornet?

people need to start learning the cap


our 13 players make about 185.5, tax is 188, 1st apron is 196
but here is the rub, the 13 players make 185.5 BUT count 191 towards the apron.

Tell them why, Because we chose to also give them incentives to further hamper the franchise

[MiamiSPX]

No No NO!

So you hire him as a coach, not as a useless player. WTF? It made no sense last season. Even less this season.

He won't even get a third of that as a first-time assistant. This is doing him, and by extension the PA, a solid. He also knows his place and doesn't expect to play. This is a FAR cry from when we had 5 useless bodies at the end of the bench 2 seasons ago (Flynn, McD, OPJ, Thad, and Temple). Some of our players may prove to be just as useless, but we don't know that yet (unlike Flynn who had proven that beyond any reasonable doubt across 4 years lol).

The way Houston should be being praised by smartly trying to save that 2 mil here 3 mil there, we rationalize giving it away Willy nilly when we know we have needs.

Stop paying people just to be nice, it’s not nice to us the fans. I was hoping this would leave with Masai.

In my example from 2 seasons ago, I was in the same boat. It drove me nuts when people minimized all those aforementioned guys' deals, because they added up to over 23M per season. And it's not like it was some revelation that they were useless, plenty of us predicted that they sucked before the season started. The concrete proof is that the other 4 guys are now out of the league.

In this particular case, AND given Masai's ouster, I think it was important to bring Temple back. Poeltl is the only other guy that will be 30+ when the season starts (he turns 30 right beforehand). Look at all the post-game handshakes and how many guys make a beeline to Temple. He's a really respected dude. It hasn't translated into wins, and will never translate to FAs going to Toronto, but he must be bringing something to that room, because they keep wanting him around.

[Psubs]

Some people overrate the role of the 15th guy on the roster. If any team needs to play the 15th guy on their roster consistently, the season isn't going very well for them.

You also don't want a young guy in that role because he won't play. He should be in the gleague playing actual minutes

Using the last spot as a leadership or mentorship role, especially with a lot of young guys on the roster, is important. The Raps have 8 guys currently on rookie contracts, and Barnes just exited his.

Rather have Lawson be the 15th man at way cheaper.

It's like the Leafs jamming right up to the top so could only trade for other players and not Marchand.

Garrett Temple isn't in demand and this signing could be done in August. Should be making a trade to free up cap to get a backup C unless it will be Scottie and CMB because Chomche is still 1 year away (unless they throw him in the fire).

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

He won't even get a third of that as a first-time assistant. This is doing him, and by extension the PA, a solid. He also knows his place and doesn't expect to play. This is a FAR cry from when we had 5 useless bodies at the end of the bench 2 seasons ago (Flynn, McD, OPJ, Thad, and Temple). Some of our players may prove to be just as useless, but we don't know that yet (unlike Flynn who had proven that beyond any reasonable doubt across 4 years lol).

The way Houston should be being praised by smartly trying to save that 2 mil here 3 mil there, we rationalize giving it away Willy nilly when we know we have needs.

Stop paying people just to be nice, it’s not nice to us the fans. I was hoping this would leave with Masai.

In my example from 2 seasons ago, I was in the same boat. It drove me nuts when people minimized all those aforementioned guys' deals, because they added up to over 23M per season. And it's not like it was some revelation that they were useless, plenty of us predicted that they sucked before the season started. The concrete proof is that the other 4 guys are now out of the league.

In this particular case, AND given Masai's ouster, I think it was important to bring Temple back. Poeltl is the only other guy that will be 30+ when the season starts (he turns 30 right beforehand). Look at all the post-game handshakes and how many guys make a beeline to Temple. He's a really respected dude. It hasn't translated into wins, and will never translate to FAs going to Toronto, but he must be bringing something to that room, because they keep wanting him around.

He’s not in demand, not hard to replace if not him, so why address this before needs that matter?

They don’t think they’ll be able to address the needs that matter. Still more puzzling why they passed on KM.

[OakleyDokely]

Some people overrate the role of the 15th guy on the roster. If any team needs to play the 15th guy on their roster consistently, the season isn't going very well for them.

You also don't want a young guy in that role because he won't play. He should be in the gleague playing actual minutes

Using the last spot as a leadership or mentorship role, especially with a lot of young guys on the roster, is important. The Raps have 8 guys currently on rookie contracts, and Barnes just exited his.

Rather have Lawson be the 15th man at way cheaper.

It's like the Leafs jamming right up to the top so could only trade for other players and not Marchand.

Garrett Temple isn't in demand and this signing could be done in August. Should be making a trade to free up cap to get a backup C unless it will be Scottie and CMB because Chomche is still 1 year away (unless they throw him in the fire).

They believe that the leadership he provides is valuable and it's hard to really argue because we are not in that locker room

The Raps will need to trade for a rotation player. Dumpster diving in the min market won't yield much. The decent guys will sign with contenders, and you will be left with the unplayable scraps.

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

Were they in a rush to go on vacation? Why not wait?

[Duffman100]

The way Houston should be being praised by smartly trying to save that 2 mil here 3 mil there, we rationalize giving it away Willy nilly when we know we have needs.

Stop paying people just to be nice, it’s not nice to us the fans. I was hoping this would leave with Masai.

In my example from 2 seasons ago, I was in the same boat. It drove me nuts when people minimized all those aforementioned guys' deals, because they added up to over 23M per season. And it's not like it was some revelation that they were useless, plenty of us predicted that they sucked before the season started. The concrete proof is that the other 4 guys are now out of the league.

In this particular case, AND given Masai's ouster, I think it was important to bring Temple back. Poeltl is the only other guy that will be 30+ when the season starts (he turns 30 right beforehand). Look at all the post-game handshakes and how many guys make a beeline to Temple. He's a really respected dude. It hasn't translated into wins, and will never translate to FAs going to Toronto, but he must be bringing something to that room, because they keep wanting him around.

He’s not in demand, not hard to replace if not him, so why address this before needs that matter?

They don’t think they’ll be able to address the needs that matter. Still more puzzling why they passed on KM.

Unless they just really don't believe KM is that good or believe that CMB is the BPA.

Always draft your view of BPA, it's not that puzzling.

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

In my example from 2 seasons ago, I was in the same boat. It drove me nuts when people minimized all those aforementioned guys' deals, because they added up to over 23M per season. And it's not like it was some revelation that they were useless, plenty of us predicted that they sucked before the season started. The concrete proof is that the other 4 guys are now out of the league.

In this particular case, AND given Masai's ouster, I think it was important to bring Temple back. Poeltl is the only other guy that will be 30+ when the season starts (he turns 30 right beforehand). Look at all the post-game handshakes and how many guys make a beeline to Temple. He's a really respected dude. It hasn't translated into wins, and will never translate to FAs going to Toronto, but he must be bringing something to that room, because they keep wanting him around.

He’s not in demand, not hard to replace if not him, so why address this before needs that matter?

They don’t think they’ll be able to address the needs that matter. Still more puzzling why they passed on KM.

Unless they just really don't believe KM is that good or believe that CMB is the BPA.

Always draft your view of BPA, it's not that puzzling.

You could very well be right. And I’d been concerned that positional need would be prioritized over BPA - so if Rich Paul only made that less likely or impacted it not at all, cool. There is certainly enough with the eye tests and analytically against the best conference ever to be excited about CMB

Charles mufakin Barkley Jr

[deeps6x]

Who is his agent? How many more favours do we owe to the guy before we're square?

Why couldn't this have been put off until August?

Why couldn't we have offered the money to Boucher, either of the C's that were just bought out, or even frickin' Chris Paul?

[Chpwags]

Totally agree they could have saved this roster slot/salary slot for a vetern big that could also provide some vetern leadership and fill a need. Lawson also actually showed some stuff last year and there is no room for him unless we make a trade or he beats out Rhoden for the last 2 way slot.

[ishoy123]

Who is his agent? How many more favours do we owe to the guy before we're square?

Why couldn't this have been put off until August?

Why couldn't we have offered the money to Boucher, either of the C's that were just bought out, or even frickin' Chris Paul?

lol Chris Paul isn't signing with the Raptors for $3.6m

[Tor_Raps]

Were they in a rush to go on vacation? Why not wait?

We know they do crap all in free agency anyways so probably lol.

[deeps6x]

Who is his agent? How many more favours do we owe to the guy before we're square?

Why couldn't this have been put off until August?

Why couldn't we have offered the money to Boucher, either of the C's that were just bought out, or even frickin' Chris Paul?

lol Chris Paul isn't signing with the Raptors for $3.6m

Of course not. But he isn't getting much more, if that amount.

Hell, we could have helped Houston by taking Cam Whitmore for free to get them out. But nope, management HAD to do this dumb ass deal and block a ton of possibilities.

[littlerock2277]

Are we just signing this man so we can see him for a fourth straight time on “ who he play for” on inside the nba

[Thaddy]

Other than having a direct line of communication to the players I don't see value in this. If we're good at picking out talent we should be giving these roster spots to guys like Battle or even Martin.

[WuTang_OG]

Other than having a direct line of communication to the players I don't see value in this. If we're good at picking out talent we should be giving these roster spots to guys like Battle or even Martin.

all 3 will have spots

[Public_Enemy101]

3.6 MILLION for a glorified cheerleader who’s supposedly a quasi leader/advisor/coach. Yet, we’ve sucked year in a year out since he’s been here.

Genius.

[ItsDanger]

I'd rather have Josh Minott, he's UFA.

[kalel123]

Just turn him into assistant coach already so he doesn't count against our cap. Having him at the end of the bench isn't gong to do anything for this team except take up valuable space and take us right up against tax or over it. Vet leadership actually means something when it comes from guys who can actually play.