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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Class 

Post#1421 » by EvanZ » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:40 pm

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Klomp wrote:But I don't think Beringer should be classified as low IQ. He just hasn't learned everything because he is so new to the game.

Do you call your 5 year old stupid because he hasn't picked up difficult trigonometry equations? Or do you give him a break because he's so young and hasn't gotten to that level of understanding yet?


This is the point thought. We've heard this excuse before. They are so "new to the game" so they must have a ton of upside.

The truth is more that the cake is baked very early for athletes, especially elite ones. Not only things like hand-eye coordination and other skills but decision-making especially. Imagine being thrown into a professional league where everyone has been playing their whole lives and it's the elite of the elite in the world. That's not an easy setting to learn. It's like saying, hey you don't know how to program you have a lot to learn, let's give you an internship at Google and see if you can compete with literally the best devs in world history. Talk about being thrown into the fire.

And it's not just that Beringer needs ot catch up and everyone else is standing pat. The Thomas Sorbers of the world who already have elite IQ are also adapting and getting better too. Guys like Beringer are always catching up.

Let me ask you thins. How long did it take JaVale McGee to become playable? Dude had all the tools in the world. But he was just such a dummy. You can't really ever fix that.

I could be wrong, but I'm guessing JaVale McGee had played basketball all his life. And IQ or not, he was good enough to be in the league for 16 years. That's a heckuva career, and I would be thrilled if Beringer plays that long.

Giannis started playing basketball at age 13, 5 years before he was drafted. Half the time, his highlights before being drafted looked like someone who didn't know what he was doing. Do you feel like he was a bad pick for the Bucks and is still playing catch up?


Giannis will never be known for being high IQ. He gets by on taking advantage of the incredible tools he’s been given. He was driving the same way he is now at lower levels. And he continues to dominate with that. There’s no genius here. So to that extent Giannis is a good example of exactly my point. If you think Beringer can dominate with his tools then that’s one thing. But if you are counting on him to develop something else I am skeptical. It’s like Warriors fans telling me for years “Wiseman just needs to figure it out”…cue the “Well we’re waiting” meme.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Class 

Post#1422 » by Klomp » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:46 pm

EvanZ wrote:Giannis will never be known for being high IQ. He gets by on taking advantage of the incredible tools he’s been given. He was driving the same way he is now at lower levels. And he continues to dominate with that. There’s no genius here. So to that extent Giannis is a good example of exactly my point. If you think Beringer can dominate with his tools then that’s one thing. But if you are counting on him to develop something else I am skeptical. It’s like Warriors fans telling me for years “Wiseman just needs to figure it out”…cue the “Well we’re waiting” meme.

I would argue that playing to your strengths and understanding your abilities and limitations is a form of basketball IQ.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Class 

Post#1423 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:51 pm

wrong thread.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Class 

Post#1424 » by EvanZ » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:16 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Giannis will never be known for being high IQ. He gets by on taking advantage of the incredible tools he’s been given. He was driving the same way he is now at lower levels. And he continues to dominate with that. There’s no genius here. So to that extent Giannis is a good example of exactly my point. If you think Beringer can dominate with his tools then that’s one thing. But if you are counting on him to develop something else I am skeptical. It’s like Warriors fans telling me for years “Wiseman just needs to figure it out”…cue the “Well we’re waiting” meme.

I would argue that playing to your strengths and understanding your abilities and limitations is a form of basketball IQ.


Is that the form of IQ you think Beringer will develop?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Class 

Post#1425 » by CptCrunch » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:16 pm

Towns, Giannis and Brown are among the star players with bad feels/low basketball IQ.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Class 

Post#1426 » by Yallbecrazy » Thu Jul 3, 2025 3:00 pm

Klomp wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Watched some Beringer today. So big. Mostly bad. My spidey sense was giving me Wiseman vibes. I know he’s young but like he’s not going to magically become Sorber level IQ at the next level. He’s also slower than I’d like. Very big though. Needs to learn how to control his body better. He seems to fall down a lot. Not sure he’s physical enough. That was one of Wiseman’s biggest problems. For such a big man he was way too gentle.

Would you really expect someone who has only played the sport for 4 years to have an extremely high basketball IQ?


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Class 

Post#1427 » by bucknut » Wed Jul 16, 2025 11:52 pm

I really believe this is going to be the best class since 2003

Watching guys like Noah penda in the second round.

Gonna have lots of stars amd high level players who are contributors

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