Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

[G_K_F]

Clarkson and Ayton would be a good off season any way you slice it given our lack of cap space and resources to trade.

Ayton is a loser with zero care about anything.

He’s a guy who deserves to be on the Hornets or one of those teams.

You don’t sign a guy like Ayton to help you win a title.

[KnicksGadfly]

Might as well bring in Michael Beasley if you need some dude who can chuck. Who was that random ass rookie we had a few years ago, who only isoed? Bring that guy in.

Alonzo Trier?

Might as well bring him back instead.

[thebuzzardman]

Tre Mann vs Tyus Jones. Announce yourself
Clarkson vs Westbrook
Ayton vs Kornrt

[BKlutch]

I’m back mofos!

Judging by the GIF of you, at least you didn't lose any hair while you were away! Welcome back, you dirty ol' man!

[mpharris36]

IQ and Brunson worked so I would give it a shot with Sexton. I like hart (wanted the Knicks to get him since he was a pelican) but it’s hard to win a chip with him since we’re 5 on 4 with his non ability to shoot.

IQ had a 6'8 wingspan (similar to mcbride) I think and always had pretty good defensive metrics so you could get buy. Sexton has no defensive acumen and you already are dealing with JB/KAT which you have to make up for defense...adding a 3rd defender teams could search out like that I don't see it.

Sexton has a 6’7 wingspan so he’s not that off. But still, I just don’t see how you can win a chip with Josh hart in the playoffs. He shot 18% from 3 against Indiana. Basically a mini Ben Simmons.

The last two playoffs Hart has been 37% from 3 (respectable). He had a miserable indy series...but before that series he was over 40% vs DET and BOS combined. And then factor in the other things he does from a rebounding doing the dirty work aspect.

No doubt miserable series...but I'm hoping with less 40 minutes games and more mid 20's to maybe 30 if we need it he will be more effective especially from 3.

[Richard4444]

this seems more than just talk...respected reports are coming out that Clarkson to the knicks is a thing.

He makes sense. Good character. Team guy. Durable. He can play SG. Cheap. He fits the profile that the Front Office uses to look for in a player.

I think the FO should be looking at one of two things.

Guys that can either hit a 3 or defend (ideally with some size)...ideally both together (but that is tough to come by with how little funds we have).

I would have to dive into Clarkson C&S potential because is raw 3 pt numbers are rough.

I think Clarkson is ok option and should be an upgrade to Cam. But he looks kind vanilla.

He is not an great scorer, a great defender or a great playmaker. But he doesnt suck in any of these skills aparently.

[spree2kawhi]

Clarkson and Ayton would be a good off season any way you slice it given our lack of cap space and resources to trade.

Ayton is a loser with zero care about anything.

He’s a guy who deserves to be on the Hornets or one of those teams.

You don’t sign a guy like Ayton to help you win a title.

I think he’s basically the center equivalent of a certain player that shall not be named. There is decent talent and he’ll produce numbers, but the attitude is a red flag as he’ll coast and won’t be engaged. That said, we’re talking about the buyout market here, likely a bench role too, so I wouldn’t look at it the way you do at all.

This is incredible value the Lakers are getting.

[BKlutch]

Like I’m just sooooo disappointed in this franchise man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike **** brown and Russel Westbrook on my Knicks????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m going to be hate watching my own favorite team all next season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Un **** real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leon’s not God? lol

Greenie might think he's more like the devil!

[3toheadmelo]

IQ had a 6'8 wingspan (similar to mcbride) I think and always had pretty good defensive metrics so you could get buy. Sexton has no defensive acumen and you already are dealing with JB/KAT which you have to make up for defense...adding a 3rd defender teams could search out like that I don't see it.

Sexton has a 6’7 wingspan so he’s not that off. But still, I just don’t see how you can win a chip with Josh hart in the playoffs. He shot 18% from 3 against Indiana. Basically a mini Ben Simmons.

The last two playoffs Hart has been 37% from 3 (respectable). He had a miserable indy series...but before that series he was over 40% vs DET and BOS combined. And then factor in the other things he does from a rebounding doing the dirty work aspect.

No doubt miserable series...but I'm hoping with less 40 minutes games and more mid 20's to maybe 30 if we need it he will be more effective especially from 3.

It’s two years in a row he’s shrunk against Indiana so it’s a red flag to me.

His minutes should be going down though with Thibs gone so maybe he’ll be more effective.

[GONYK]

Yeah, JVG is handing them out like hot cakes.

They got me too lol

Oh, that’s why you were gone???

Well damn!

They don’t respect their elders.

Take it the PMs.

This is derailing.

[BowlRips]

IQ had a 6'8 wingspan (similar to mcbride) I think and always had pretty good defensive metrics so you could get buy. Sexton has no defensive acumen and you already are dealing with JB/KAT which you have to make up for defense...adding a 3rd defender teams could search out like that I don't see it.

Sexton has a 6’7 wingspan so he’s not that off. But still, I just don’t see how you can win a chip with Josh hart in the playoffs. He shot 18% from 3 against Indiana. Basically a mini Ben Simmons.

The last two playoffs Hart has been 37% from 3 (respectable). He had a miserable indy series...but before that series he was over 40% vs DET and BOS combined. And then factor in the other things he does from a rebounding doing the dirty work aspect.

No doubt miserable series...but I'm hoping with less 40 minutes games and more mid 20's to maybe 30 if we need it he will be more effective especially from 3.

Hart's percentages aren't the problem. The issue is a) how teams guard you when hes on the court and b) him passing up shots. If he didn't pass up shots consistently then teams wouldn't be able to drop off him and guard him with a big. But theres a catch 22 - if he just let it fly he would shoot way below 37%. I just think fundamentally, it is hard to play basketball at the highest level in the half court when theres a player you "don't have to guard".

[sol537]

Clarkson and Ayton would be a good off season any way you slice it given our lack of cap space and resources to trade.

Ayton is a loser with zero care about anything.

He’s a guy who deserves to be on the Hornets or one of those teams.

You don’t sign a guy like Ayton to help you win a title.

You’re getting him for free basically… he once helped PHX get one win away from a title… maybe with a strong vet locker room around him and it being a contract year, he may mature a bit. If he doesn’t, you waive him. Low risk, high reward. We got a shot to get him IMO.

[mpharris36]

Sexton has a 6’7 wingspan so he’s not that off. But still, I just don’t see how you can win a chip with Josh hart in the playoffs. He shot 18% from 3 against Indiana. Basically a mini Ben Simmons.

The last two playoffs Hart has been 37% from 3 (respectable). He had a miserable indy series...but before that series he was over 40% vs DET and BOS combined. And then factor in the other things he does from a rebounding doing the dirty work aspect.

No doubt miserable series...but I'm hoping with less 40 minutes games and more mid 20's to maybe 30 if we need it he will be more effective especially from 3.

It’s two years in a row he’s shrunk against Indiana so it’s a red flag to me.

His minutes should be going down though with Thibs gone so maybe he’ll be more effective.

I can put the year before on Hart. He had 4 out of 5 huge games against Indy (big reason we were up 3-2 in that series) before he hurt his abdomen and was left useless for two games.

in those 5 games

14.6 pts
54% FG%
36% from 3
12 rebounds a game
1.4 steals per game

he played like 2 or 3 full games that series and not coming out until the overuse again caught up to him. And he got injured and had a miserable game 6 and 7.

But he was a huge reason we beat philly last year and was a big reason we beat DET and BOS this year.

[stuporman]

Don't you dare Rose...

[mpharris36]

Sexton has a 6’7 wingspan so he’s not that off. But still, I just don’t see how you can win a chip with Josh hart in the playoffs. He shot 18% from 3 against Indiana. Basically a mini Ben Simmons.

The last two playoffs Hart has been 37% from 3 (respectable). He had a miserable indy series...but before that series he was over 40% vs DET and BOS combined. And then factor in the other things he does from a rebounding doing the dirty work aspect.

No doubt miserable series...but I'm hoping with less 40 minutes games and more mid 20's to maybe 30 if we need it he will be more effective especially from 3.

Hart's percentages aren't the problem. The issue is a) how teams guard you when hes on the court and b) him passing up shots. If he didn't pass up shots consistently then teams wouldn't be able to drop off him and guard him with a big. But theres a catch 22 - if he just let it fly he would shoot way below 37%. I just think fundamentally, it is hard to play basketball at the highest level in the half court when theres a player you "don't have to guard".

I understand that notion...but that is why its on the coach to mix things up. If Hart isn't going to shoot that is when you give him less minutes.

I think Thibs put so much on hart that he always got off to good years shooting but since he had to save his energy for games because of the burden of minutes he was given his shot fell off. He should be more of a 28 minute a night guy and work on his shooting because at times its there.

I agree turning down 3's is a problem...but just leaving him out there is then on the coach. He could have used Deuce more in those instances to get more spacing.

[jvsimonetti0514]

This is finally going to be the summer that both of them learn to shoot 3’s trust me I don’t like it but if our options are Clarkson or Russ, I might lean Russ

Maaan lol

I would prefer Tre Mann as well...but he might have more suitors for more money. Maybe the interst in Clarkson is league minimum...only justification for it.

I think we’ll only end up using minimum contracts to fill out our last 4 roster spots. Hopefully we can get Mann cuz it be cheaper than signing someone like Clarkson cuz of years of service.

[Knicksfan1992]

this seems more than just talk...respected reports are coming out that Clarkson to the knicks is a thing.

He makes sense. Good character. Team guy. Durable. He can play SG. Cheap. He fits the profile that the Front Office uses to look for in a player.

I think the FO should be looking at one of two things.

Guys that can either hit a 3 or defend (ideally with some size)...ideally both together (but that is tough to come by with how little funds we have).

I would have to dive into Clarkson C&S potential because is raw 3 pt numbers are rough.

Clarkson on Catch and Shoots by season

24-25 37% on 3.1 attempts
23-24 33.3% on 2.9 attempts
22-23 33.9% on 4.0 attempts
21-22 31.3% on 3.9 attempts

Not great but not awful either I guess. It's encouraging that he was up to 37% this season.

Looking at his career shot chart he is at 38% from the left corner which is pretty good. Maybe the Knicks thinking he could be a corner shooter with some creation is worth it for either a portion of the MLE or minimum. Knicks desperately needed another source of shot creation. You could do worse than Clarkson given what our restraints are.

[mpharris36]

He makes sense. Good character. Team guy. Durable. He can play SG. Cheap. He fits the profile that the Front Office uses to look for in a player.

I think the FO should be looking at one of two things.

Guys that can either hit a 3 or defend (ideally with some size)...ideally both together (but that is tough to come by with how little funds we have).

I would have to dive into Clarkson C&S potential because is raw 3 pt numbers are rough.

Clarkson on Catch and Shoots by season

24-25 37% on 3.1 attempts
23-24 33.3% on 2.9 attempts
22-23 33.9% on 4.0 attempts
21-22 31.3% on 3.9 attempts

Not great but not awful either I guess. It's encouraging that he was up to 37% this season.

Looking at his career shot chart he is at 38% from the left corner which is pretty good. Maybe the Knicks thinking he could be a corner shooter with some creation is worth it for either a portion of the MLE or minimum. Knicks desperately needed another source of shot creation. You could do worse than Clarkson given what our restraints are.

yikes that is kinda miserable...24-25 was on a much small sample size only like 30ish games.

the other years were all like over 60 games....33% is garbage

[mpharris36]

Read on Twitter

ok im starting to get worried...

Westbrook had a -15.9 NET rating in the playoffs

and a negative NET rating in the regular season where the Nuggets were far better on OFF and DEF with him off the floor.

[HopelessKnick]

Where is the Ayton talk coming from? He didn't opt out of a 30mill. player option to sign somewhere for the veteran minimum right? I think he'll be looking at a 3year/75mill. type deal. Him waiving 30mill. to sign for the veteran minimum would be stunning....

Just realized he was bought out.....