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2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1701 » by playa-hater » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:51 pm

bisme37 wrote:I don't want to lose Al and/or Luke you guys. That's all I had to say about that.


I am at a loss for words for your new Avatar picture or whatever you call that :o :crazy:
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Post#1702 » by dortmunder » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:52 pm

Dont want Luke and Al to go.
No way.
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Post#1703 » by brackdan70 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:53 pm

cloverleaf wrote:No C's rumors?!?

All I know is it’s happening in 7 minutes….
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Post#1704 » by GreenBlooded » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:55 pm

chrisab123 wrote:The amount of simping for Billionaires on this thread is insane. People wanting to be under the tax for the next two years so the penalties on the new Celtics owners won’t be bad. Would the Lakers do that?

Again I just want to remind people that for the last decade a lot of the lottery teams have stayed the same. Be careful what you wish for.


Over the past 10 NBA seasons (2015‑16 through 2024‑25), the Lakers have been in the luxury-tax territory in only 2 seasons.

Season Luxury Tax Status
2015–16 Below the tax line
2016–17 Below
2017–18 Below
2018–19 Below
2019–20 Below – won the championship while staying under
2020–21 Above – paid a tax (~$4M adjusted figure)
2021–22 Above – $33M luxury-tax payment
2022–23 Below
2023–24 Above – just over threshold, ~$6.9M tax
2024–25 Below
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1705 » by playa-hater » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:56 pm

What's Daniel Theis doing these days?? Enes "Freedom" Kanter and of course Board favorite Aaron Bayne ?? 8-)

F that BRING BACK TACKO FALL !!!!!

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Post#1706 » by djFan71 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:59 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:No C's rumors?!?

Sources tell me that Denver will buy out Jokic and he plans to sign a four year deal with the Boston Celtics.

I think we should just go with Queta and see what he can do. I'm not sure how you share the ball with Jokic, White, JB and Pritchard. Much less when Tatum gets back.
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Post#1707 » by hugepatsfan » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:06 pm

For 2-26-27, cap is now projected to go up just 7%. All cap sites had assumed 10%. That means next year's tax threshold will be $5.6M lower than previously anticipated. Means that as of right now, we're about $25.8M below the projected tax line for 26-27 with 9 players signed.

Personally, I've been advocating for ducking this year and next year to reset repeater status so that whatever their payroll limit from ownership in future seasons beyond gets stretched further. It's not even about saving them money, it's about allocating what they spend. Tatum is out this year and due to rust, I expect 26-27 to be the worst year left of Tatum's prime. I expect the 3 best years of his career left will be 27-28, 28-29, and 29-30. Being a regular taxpayer vs. repeat in those years means means you can fit an extra 1-2 good salaries in under whatever limit ownership has on payroll. It's just smart resource planning, IMO. I don't want to have years in Tatum's prime where we look back and wish we we had 1-2 more pieces. Resetting repeater rates IMO was a valid short term trade off for less risk of that long term.

However, a big part of that was that they were still far enough under the tax next year to go add a solid big man. I wasn't saying punt on the year or anything. Going from $31.5M under the tax still with 5 spots to fill to now $25.8M with those 5 spots to fill isn't nothing. It makes a real difference. The degree to which you trade off your quality of team in 26-27 to duck the tax now is higher.

So we'll see what this means. On the one hand, it could mean more spending this year if they don't forecast resetting the tax now because it's too much punting on next year. On the other, if they see this as part of a long term trend, it might make it critical that they reset repeater rates so they can add enough players within their payroll limits in future years.
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Post#1708 » by djFan71 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:14 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:For 2-26-27, cap is now projected to go up just 7%. All cap sites had assumed 10%. That means next year's tax threshold will be $5.6M lower than previously anticipated. Means that as of right now, we're about $25.8M below the projected tax line for 26-27 with 9 players signed.

Personally, I've been advocating for ducking this year and next year to reset repeater status so that whatever their payroll limit from ownership in future seasons beyond gets stretched further. It's not even about saving them money, it's about allocating what they spend. Tatum is out this year and due to rust, I expect 26-27 to be the worst year left of Tatum's prime. I expect the 3 best years of his career left will be 27-28, 28-29, and 29-30. Being a regular taxpayer vs. repeat in those years means means you can fit an extra 1-2 good salaries in under whatever limit ownership has on payroll. It's just smart resource planning, IMO. I don't want to have years in Tatum's prime where we look back and wish we we had 1-2 more pieces. Resetting repeater rates IMO was a valid short term trade off for less risk of that long term.

However, a big part of that was that they were still far enough under the tax next year to go add a solid big man. I wasn't saying punt on the year or anything. Going from $31.5M under the tax still with 5 spots to fill to now $25.8M with those 5 spots to fill isn't nothing. It makes a real difference. The degree to which you trade off your quality of team in 26-27 to duck the tax now is higher.

So we'll see what this means. On the one hand, it could mean more spending this year if they don't forecast resetting the tax now because it's too much punting on next year. On the other, if they see this as part of a long term trend, it might make it critical that they reset repeater rates so they can add enough players within their payroll limits in future years.

Just saw that and was gonna revoke any Pat Williams-based ideas, lol.
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Post#1709 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:16 pm

The NBA signed a $76 billion new TV contract with Disney/ESPN and Amazon starting in the 2025-26

How did the league sign a contract for $76 Billion dollars and the cap not go up by 10%, WTF?
hugepatsfan wrote:For 2-26-27, cap is now projected to go up just 7%. All cap sites had assumed 10%. That means next year's tax threshold will be $5.6M lower than previously anticipated.
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Post#1710 » by Bill Lumbergh » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:17 pm

Jaren Jackson, 5 years 240M. That's a whole lotta cabbage.
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Post#1711 » by phincsfan » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:20 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:For 2-26-27, cap is now projected to go up just 7%. All cap sites had assumed 10%. That means next year's tax threshold will be $5.6M lower than previously anticipated. Means that as of right now, we're about $25.8M below the projected tax line for 26-27 with 9 players signed.

Personally, I've been advocating for ducking this year and next year to reset repeater status so that whatever their payroll limit from ownership in future seasons beyond gets stretched further. It's not even about saving them money, it's about allocating what they spend. Tatum is out this year and due to rust, I expect 26-27 to be the worst year left of Tatum's prime. I expect the 3 best years of his career left will be 27-28, 28-29, and 29-30. Being a regular taxpayer vs. repeat in those years means means you can fit an extra 1-2 good salaries in under whatever limit ownership has on payroll. It's just smart resource planning, IMO. I don't want to have years in Tatum's prime where we look back and wish we we had 1-2 more pieces. Resetting repeater rates IMO was a valid short term trade off for less risk of that long term.

However, a big part of that was that they were still far enough under the tax next year to go add a solid big man. I wasn't saying punt on the year or anything. Going from $31.5M under the tax still with 5 spots to fill to now $25.8M with those 5 spots to fill isn't nothing. It makes a real difference. The degree to which you trade off your quality of team in 26-27 to duck the tax now is higher.

So we'll see what this means. On the one hand, it could mean more spending this year if they don't forecast resetting the tax now because it's too much punting on next year. On the other, if they see this as part of a long term trend, it might make it critical that they reset repeater rates so they can add enough players within their payroll limits in future years.


I bet it goes up 15% the following year.

22' the luxury tax was 150mil
23' the luxury tax was 165mil
24' the luxury tax was 170mil (what was different?) :dontknow:
25' the luxury tax will be 188mil
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Post#1712 » by Bill Lumbergh » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:21 pm

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Post#1713 » by phincsfan » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:21 pm

Bill Lumbergh wrote:Jaren Jackson, 5 years 240M. That's a whole lotta cabbage.


That's why they moved Bane

I bet they give Aldama a deal also
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Post#1714 » by Bill Lumbergh » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:22 pm

phincsfan wrote:
Bill Lumbergh wrote:Jaren Jackson, 5 years 240M. That's a whole lotta cabbage.


That's why they moved Bane

I bet they give Aldama a deal also

Just did.
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Post#1715 » by phincsfan » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:23 pm

Yup, Aldama locked up

They have a good frontcourt locked up and young
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Post#1716 » by winsomme2 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:25 pm

Starting to think we should have taken Kalkbrenner with all these rumors about losing Al and Kornet.

Williams is an interesting prospect but Kalkbrenner almost certainly is going to be able to play NBA level basketball at the center position.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1717 » by chakdaddy » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:27 pm

Doesn't really matter now. I would have kept KP. But now, soft tank , get under tax , see what you can reboot Jays and White. We'll miss the others but we'll always have Paris.
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Post#1718 » by MaxwellSmart » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:28 pm

Kornet was the first deal last year....I think we can all blame that All 2nd team that JB got for this mess...aint no way he's worth 300 million.
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Post#1719 » by themoneyteam2 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:31 pm

MaxwellSmart wrote:Kornet was the first deal last year....I think we can all blame that All 2nd team that JB got for this mess...aint no way he's worth 300 million.


His deal won't even look that bad. JJJ just got $240M for a 7 footer who can't grab 6 boards a game and is borderline unplayable in the postseason.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#1720 » by Bill Lumbergh » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:31 pm

DFS to Rockets. 4 years, 53M.

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