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The 2025 Wolves Off Season

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#261 » by Klomp » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:43 pm

Calinks wrote:Welp, I'm disappointed. Running it back, we can and probably will have a better season, the team really came together down the stretch so we should be competing in the top 5 of the west next season. Still, I don't see how we get past OKC. Maybe another team takes them out, though and that problem is eliminated.

Honestly, I wouldn't rule out something similar to this being the mindset. How many years did the Pacers and Knicks run it back, always running into Michael Jordan in the East? Should they have just bottomed out instead.

There will always be someone else. When it wasn't Joker, it was Shai. When it isn't Shai it will be Victor. Running away scared will just mean perpetually losing. Like I've said before, personally I've had enough of that.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#262 » by GopherIt! » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:50 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:Oh....What about Vit Krejci coming back from ATL in a NAW deal?

6'8 PG, just turned 25. Can shoot and was a positive defender last year. Makes 2.4M next year, so that would leave us some wiggle room during the year.

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#263 » by younggunsmn » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:53 pm

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Tyus as our PGOF?


Point Guard of the Future. Tyus is 29. In 6 years by the time he is 35 and in the twilight of his career (he was born in May,) Ant will be 30. Seems like a solid back court duo.


I know what it means. I was just questioning the idea.

Tyus is perfectly cromulent. But that's it. The idea of Tyus is great. Good shooter, great assist/turnover ratio, doesn't seem to really hurt you defensively - until the Playoffs.

But he really just doesn't move the needle. He's safe and basic and kind of blah. He's like the perfect Flip Saunders PG. Pass to the open man for the assist, don't do anything reckless, don't gamble, don't push things. Stay in your lane.

He took a minimum deal last year to try to improve his value and he ended up getting benched for a kid on a 2 way...


We REALLY could have used a guy with one of the top two A/TO ratios in the league every single year to organize our offense in that OKC series.
You can't judge Tyus by last year in PHX, that team was a dumpster fire of epic proportions with zero big men and 3 of the most ball dominant wings in the entire league. He's smart, he makes the right play, he can push the ball and hit open shots.
My only question on him is if he is physical enough to play Finch-level defense, but he's certainly smart and seasoned enough to execute our defensive schemes. Rob is neither. He is food right now.

I watched a youtube the other day about how during a Cavs playoff game against the Celtics years ago, LeBron ran the same play for an entire quarter because ONE GUY was being lazy on weakside defense.
If you want to win at the highest level you can't afford to play a guy who is food out there.
And we already start Julius Randle and back him up with Naz Reid.

If your team is losing or even middling you take the upside play and play Dillingham.
But our window to win is now, maybe the next 2 years before Gobert and Randle start seriously deteriorating.
Mike had a big drop off last year and we can't afford to have another year with such ineffective PG play.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#264 » by Neeva » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:56 pm

Tyus looked washed last season which is weird because he’s supposed to be in his prime. Also if he returns to form he is still not someone you can trust in the playoffs, he was always awful in the post season with Memphis.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#265 » by younggunsmn » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:59 pm

GopherIt! wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:Oh....What about Vit Krejci coming back from ATL in a NAW deal?

6'8 PG, just turned 25. Can shoot and was a positive defender last year. Makes 2.4M next year, so that would leave us some wiggle room during the year.

Literally has a massive wolf tattoo.

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Not just a wolf but a howling wolf tattoo. He's in.


We had him for a hot minute in summer league a few years ago IIRC.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#266 » by Rookie-Mistake » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:19 pm

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This is a very underrated signing.
I am very happy to have this human influencing our young guys.

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#267 » by Calinks » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:46 pm

Neeva wrote:Tyus looked washed last season which is weird because he’s supposed to be in his prime. Also if he returns to form he is still not someone you can trust in the playoffs, he was always awful in the post season with Memphis.

A lot of the NBA is just about time and place. Tyus may have been a really bad fit for the Suns and their system. He could look very different on our team and in our system. This happens all the time in the NBA. Even guys like Conely and NAW took huge leaps when they started playing for us. Some of that could be growth on NAW's part but a lot was just opportunity and how he was used.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#268 » by guest81 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:36 pm

Calinks wrote:
Neeva wrote:Tyus looked washed last season which is weird because he’s supposed to be in his prime. Also if he returns to form he is still not someone you can trust in the playoffs, he was always awful in the post season with Memphis.

A lot of the NBA is just about time and place. Tyus may have been a really bad fit for the Suns and their system. He could look very different on our team and in our system. This happens all the time in the NBA. Even guys like Conely and NAW took huge leaps when they started playing for us. Some of that could be growth on NAW's part but a lot was just opportunity and how he was used.


Or maybe he's just proven to not be a starting caliber point guard
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#269 » by moss_is_1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:53 pm

Klomp wrote:I think NAW's market is going to catch some people off guard. Like honestly, an AAV approaching $30 million would not shock me. Under $20 million would shock me though.

$30m would be such a horrible move for someone. Especially ATL where NAW would be their 6th man. They have a $25m TPE and then can use the MLE to get another center. I don't think they'll need to use the whole $25m to snag NAW, but I guess starting at $25m with max raises could get closer to $30.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#270 » by younggunsmn » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:56 pm

20 per for NAW would be crazy.

Theres a chance he gets above the MLE but someone is gonna regret that deal too.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#271 » by Neeva » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:05 pm

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I am very happy to have this human influencing our young guys.

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Put him on the staff why is he taking a roster spot and precious remaining team salary they need to fill important team needs :lol:
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#273 » by BlacJacMac » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:47 pm

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#274 » by bonita_the_frog » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:49 pm

Klomp wrote:Honestly, I wouldn't rule out something similar to this being the mindset. How many years did the Pacers and Knicks run it back, always running into Michael Jordan in the East? Should they have just bottomed out instead.

There will always be someone else. When it wasn't Joker, it was Shai. When it isn't Shai it will be Victor. Running away scared will just mean perpetually losing. Like I've said before, personally I've had enough of that.

The Timberwolves beat the Joker in 2024 Playoffs and were 4-0 vs. Joker in 2024-25 regular season!
And Timberwolves beat Shai by 42 points in Game 3, and were robbed in Game 4... should have got 0.6 to shoot instead of 0.3
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#275 » by BlacJacMac » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:53 pm

I mean, yeah. We could hire him as an assistant coach. But there is always going to be a different dynamic between teammates than between players and coaches.

Riley and Spoelstra get it. The Heat have long been known for their culture and professionalism (at least before Butler tried to tear them down). Udonis Haslam played a TOTAL of 347 minutes over his final SIX seasons. The intangibles he provided were more valuable to the team than what a 15th player would bring.

Especially since the Wolves have ELEVEN players age 25 or under. And are already trying to develop Dilly, Beringer, TSJ, Clark, Miller and Rocco into legit rotation players.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#276 » by Rookie-Mistake » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:24 pm

Pretty much this.

And sometimes you need to see the forrest through the trees.
This shows a maturity in a TWolves GM that i haven't seen ever.

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#277 » by moss_is_1 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:36 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:PG: Tyus Jones - Malcom Brogdon - Dante Exum - Spencer Dinwiddie - Westbrook - Jmac - Delon Wright - Tre Mann - Cam Payne - Delano Banton - De'Anthony Melton

SG: Kennard - Gary Payton -Gary Trent Jr - THJ - Talen Horton-Tucker - Lonnie Walker - Amir Coffey - Garrison Matthews - Gary Harris

SF: Duncan Robinson

PF: Taurean Prince - Trendan Watford - Yabusale

C: Thomas Bryant - Charles Bassey - Sandro Mamukelashvili


Updating. I've only seen us mentioned for Tyus as someone we showed interest in.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#278 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:10 am

Klomp wrote:
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Klomp wrote:I think possibly adding a PG actually could signal more of the end of Conley than it might about anything concerning Dillingham. I was actually even considering last night the possibility of Conley retiring and the Timberwolves waiving/stretching his contract.


Who knows but the last time Finch had to choose between Conley and Dillingham, he was going with Conley.

Sure, but what if Conley were to decide to hang it up, or to tell Finch he might be better off in an Ingles role?

Conley is a one-year venture. Dillingham is still just 20 and has much more to his NBA potential.


We play to win now which mean for me Rob has to show he can make the next step. I'm pretty sure Rob will start or play at least 20 min the first art of the season. And if he show he can play at high level, he will be the starter. No doubt about that. Finch play about it before and expectations are high. And i'm also sure Mike will play well from the bench is his wrist does not bother him.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#279 » by Domejandro » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:17 am

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#280 » by Mattya » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:22 am

You'd have to think as money dries up, that some of these free agent point guards have to be frothing at the mouth to try and raise their value by getting a chance to fill this void at point for a WCF team

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