Max Strus for Expiring? CLE/PORT

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Re: Max Strus for Expiring? CLE/PORT 

Post#21 » by bgrep14 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 1:30 am

mcfly1204 wrote:
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mcfly1204 wrote:Contenders don't move starters for cap space, let alone multiple starters with little to no on court production in return. Maybe take a break with the Cavalier trade proposals?


The 2nd Apron has only been in effect since 2024-2025 so there’s not really much depth of data to make an ignorant comment. Prior to that Heat and GSW built dynasty’s dumping starters to sign stars or trade. Even the Cavs dumped half their team to get LeBron back. You may have watched KD and LeBron play a few times. Hell, Denver literally just traded Porter and a first just to cut salary are they not trying to compete with Jokic?

The only way to aggregate is to get under the second apron and I guarantee you if they run the same team back they don’t make it out of the east. They can go out of the Apron and go back in to restructure the team to avoid another 2nd round exit. Maybe take a break from being a douche, it’s only a trade board.

Who did the Heat trade to sign LeBron and Bosh? (47 win 1st round exit in 5 games the previous season, btw)

Who did the Warriors trade to sign Durant?

Who did the Cavs trade to sign LeBron? (33 win team who did not make the Playoffs the previous season, btw)

Denver? Didn't they just trade for the better, cheaper player? Pretty sure most would consider that a win-win transaction.


Warriors renounced Barnes and traded Bogut so they could sign Durant.

Heat traded Beasley who was better than Max Strus at the time and in year two after being the number two pick. Then avg 19 a game in Minnesota.

Cavs had to dump Jack, Karesev, Zeller, and picks to get cap to sign LeBron.

I think Cam and Porter are pretty equal in a vacuum. If Cam wasn’t cheaper then Denver wouldn’t have made the trade or at least not sent an unprotected first.
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Re: Max Strus for Expiring? CLE/PORT 

Post#22 » by mcfly1204 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:11 am

bgrep14 wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:
bgrep14 wrote:
The 2nd Apron has only been in effect since 2024-2025 so there’s not really much depth of data to make an ignorant comment. Prior to that Heat and GSW built dynasty’s dumping starters to sign stars or trade. Even the Cavs dumped half their team to get LeBron back. You may have watched KD and LeBron play a few times. Hell, Denver literally just traded Porter and a first just to cut salary are they not trying to compete with Jokic?

The only way to aggregate is to get under the second apron and I guarantee you if they run the same team back they don’t make it out of the east. They can go out of the Apron and go back in to restructure the team to avoid another 2nd round exit. Maybe take a break from being a douche, it’s only a trade board.

Who did the Heat trade to sign LeBron and Bosh? (47 win 1st round exit in 5 games the previous season, btw)

Who did the Warriors trade to sign Durant?

Who did the Cavs trade to sign LeBron? (33 win team who did not make the Playoffs the previous season, btw)

Denver? Didn't they just trade for the better, cheaper player? Pretty sure most would consider that a win-win transaction.


Warriors renounced Barnes and traded Bogut so they could sign Durant.

Heat traded Beasley who was better than Max Strus at the time and in year two after being the number two pick. Then avg 19 a game in Minnesota.

Cavs had to dump Jack, Karesev, Zeller, and picks to get cap to sign LeBron.

I think Cam and Porter are pretty equal in a vacuum. If Cam wasn’t cheaper then Denver wouldn’t have made the trade or at least not sent an unprotected first.

It helps to recall the context of those trades. Bogut was a non-factor at that point for GSW, logging less than 20mpg for the Warriors in the 2016 playoffs. Barnes was a solid player, but most importantly both were traded after Durant decided to sign with the Warriors. Same scenario for Miami. Yes, they gave away Michael Beasley... after the Decision. I don't think I really have to say much about what Cleveland traded away to help lure the best player in the game back to Cleveland.

Now if you posted a trade scenario where Cleveland was trading Strus and Okoro for an All-NBA player (which would clearly not be legal with today's CBA), I don't think anyone would feel the need to call you out.
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