Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley

[canada_dry]

If the belief is true that Raps rehabbed RJ's trade value since acquiring him, then there should be plenty of trade possibilities.

It might need some more rehab. And that's ok.

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[ConSarnit]

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Polar bear sighting.

Knicks really bent us over on that OG trade.

I think we’re bending ourselves over here. Every team in our tier is a contender or has made a conference finals in the past 2 years. Somehow we’re capped out and haven’t played a playoff game in 3 seasons.

[Syd-TK3]

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Polar bear sighting.

Knicks really bent us over on that OG trade.

This what happens when you take back overrated players in trades instead of expiring and picks so you can properly rebuild

[S.W.A.N]

Wow. Way to spin it! Let’s not pretend Portland had the choice of trading Ayton for RJ or waiving him and decided to waive him. That’s NONSENSE, and not what’s happened here. lol.

An RJ offer for Ayton was never on the table because Ayton sucks.

The blind RJ hate is getting out of hand and it’s so stupid and not based in reality.

Gonna be lots of pissed off “fans” watching RJ as a Rap until he retires.

I’m here for it.

lol it's odd how it's being spun as Portland turning down RJ somehow. Ayton made little sense for numerous reasons. He doesn't fit the culture we are trying to build and he makes 35.5m which is nearly 8m more than RJ which would put us comfortably in the luxury tax. I still don't get how anyone was a proponent of this.

Again, you guys are viewing it as a long term addition lol.

It’s simply about giving yourself flexibility for the next summer.

You take the short term hit to not take a long term hit. It’s why teams want expiring contracts when they want to have cap flexibility for a specific year.

No. there was nothing to gain from an Ayton trade. The short term and long term implications of doing a 2 for one trade for a bad asset, even on an expiring, was not worth doing.

RJ is valuable to our team, even if his contract and fit isn't perfect. There is no panic to moving him. Adding in an additional quality player like an Ochai to move him is just bad asset management.

[S.W.A.N]

IQ signing was a joke from the start. Knicks balked at the contract demands he floated, and so smartly traded him. We did one better and paid him more than his rumoured asking price.

Just because you hope he’s a $32 million player, doesn’t mean you can wish it or pay it into existence.

The player/contract is a net negative. We’re going to have to bite the bullet on something.

The contract isn't great but IQ is still a very positive contributor offensively. 3.2 OBPM and 2.1 EPM in a weird tanking season where he was injured for most of it. I think he'll have a really good season for us next year and he's gonna be the 53rd ranked player in salary. Not a bargain by any means but not a massive untrade-able over pay either.

That IQ deal wasn't about years 1 and 2 anyway, he'll look like more and more of a bargain as the deal progresses.

True, but the short term implications on our cap situation is burdensome, especially when his health/productivity haven't given us short term gains to match the short term issues.

If we don't move him, I suspect this year will do wonders to rehabilitate his perceived value. He really does fit our roster as long as he's playing aggressive d and hitting 3's.

[HumbleRen]

lol it's odd how it's being spun as Portland turning down RJ somehow. Ayton made little sense for numerous reasons. He doesn't fit the culture we are trying to build and he makes 35.5m which is nearly 8m more than RJ which would put us comfortably in the luxury tax. I still don't get how anyone was a proponent of this.

Again, you guys are viewing it as a long term addition lol.

It’s simply about giving yourself flexibility for the next summer.

You take the short term hit to not take a long term hit. It’s why teams want expiring contracts when they want to have cap flexibility for a specific year.

No. there was nothing to gain from an Ayton trade. The short term and long term implications of doing a 2 for one trade for a bad asset, even on an expiring, was not worth doing.

RJ is valuable to our team, even if his contract and fit isn't perfect. There is no panic to moving him. Adding in an additional quality player like an Ochai to move him is just bad asset management.

Valuable to bad teams, sure. We can agree there.

[Jim Todd Jr.]

We have tested both of their value and probably dont like the return. Might as well play to win and see where it gets us value wise this time next year.

[Tor_Raps]

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Polar bear sighting.

Knicks really bent us over on that OG trade.

I think we’re bending ourselves over here. Every team in our tier is a contender or has made a conference finals in the past 2 years. Somehow we’re capped out and haven’t played a playoff game in 3 seasons.

I've been saying this too, seeing a team tank back to back years but being capped out is a joke lol. We locked ourselves into a mediocre core until we were able to land Ingram.

Now we're trying to pivot from that original medicore core by upgrading IQ/RJ. Really hoping we can find a taker.

[Los_29]

RJ’s contract expires at the end of the 26/27 season. That’s not a bad contract to take on.

[ItsDanger]

Both players windows for improvement are this upcoming season. After that, realistically, their peak production will be established. There are exceptions but if they actually adhere to analytics completely then the front office should accept that.

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I don't know what this even means but we better not be just getting rid of Battle for nothing.

[GLF]

“Working on a few things”. Grange is so annoying lol

[WuTang_OG]

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I don't know what this even means but we better not be just getting rid of Battle for nothing.

hes gettig guaranteed 100"%

[Tor_Raps]

“Working on a few things”. Grange is so annoying lol

Wonder if we'll get a minimum signing for the last roster spot or a RJ trade or a Ochai/Walter/Dick for a backup C trade.

[Rapsobsessed7]

Amazing how Grange has a job. Being paid to be useless.

[DemHeavyHands]

Time to hit up the bulls on Patrick Williams

[CPT]

Time to hit up the bulls on Patrick Williams

What are they giving us to take him off their hands?

[CPT]

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Polar bear sighting.

Knicks really bent us over on that OG trade.

I think we’re bending ourselves over here. Every team in our tier is a contender or has made a conference finals in the past 2 years. Somehow we’re capped out and haven’t played a playoff game in 3 seasons.

I've been saying this too, seeing a team tank back to back years but being capped out is a joke lol. We locked ourselves into a mediocre core until we were able to land Ingram.

Now we're trying to pivot from that original medicore core by upgrading IQ/RJ. Really hoping we can find a taker.

I don’t know how to break this to you, but the Ingram trade is locking in further to mediocrity, not breaking away from it. It’s, like, aspirational mediocrity.

[Tor_Raps]

I think we’re bending ourselves over here. Every team in our tier is a contender or has made a conference finals in the past 2 years. Somehow we’re capped out and haven’t played a playoff game in 3 seasons.

I've been saying this too, seeing a team tank back to back years but being capped out is a joke lol. We locked ourselves into a mediocre core until we were able to land Ingram.

Now we're trying to pivot from that original medicore core by upgrading IQ/RJ. Really hoping we can find a taker.

I don’t know how to break this to you, but the Ingram trade is locking in further to mediocrity, not breaking away from it. It’s, like, aspirational mediocrity.

I'll disagree with that if we can get lucky with Ingrams health. Still need to make another consolidation type move to make that big next step.