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Grimes getting a deal like naw and aldama makes sense.
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Pretty good player. He's 24 and could be a hit signing. Bigger than Tobias Harris. If he can find consistency on catch and shoot threes, he'll be a nice addition. He's at that age where guys start to really play for that next contract. My guess is he sees the floor as a starter more than expected. Pray we don't use him as a small ball 5. He's strictly a 4 in my opinion. Every time he's played against us, he's impressed me. Slick signing by Morey...Our next Oubre, Yabu, now Watford.
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Morey and the Sixers come out big winners if Grimes ends up signing for less than his $25M asking price. That’s the beauty of those 6’4”–6’6” guards, they’re skilled, impactful, and far more affordable than 2 way wings
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76ciology wrote:Morey and the Sixers come out big winners if Grimes ends up signing for less than his $25M asking price. That’s the beauty of those 6’4”–6’6” guards, they’re skilled, impactful, and far more affordable than 2 way wings
IMO the only team possibly willing to do it is Detroit.... But they don't seem interested yet
Going after Monk in a sign and trade.
The Nets are trying to do the OKC thing and collect players they can trade out later for picks... Only makes sense to do that if the contracts have some level of value, not priced out deals. Since it was a short tanking stint nobody really knows Grimes true value though
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76ciology wrote:Morey and the Sixers come out big winners if Grimes ends up signing for less than his $25M asking price. That’s the beauty of those 6’4”–6’6” guards, they’re skilled, impactful, and far more affordable than 2 way wings
25M ? He would be lucky to still get 15+M at the end from us considering how bad his marketing seems around.
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Detroit traded Grimes last Summer, one of the first moves his new GM made. He doesnt like him.
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phifans wrote:76ciology wrote:Morey and the Sixers come out big winners if Grimes ends up signing for less than his $25M asking price. That’s the beauty of those 6’4”–6’6” guards, they’re skilled, impactful, and far more affordable than 2 way wings
25M ? He would be lucky to still get 15+M at the end from us considering how bad his marketing seems around.
At some point it will be a decision between taking a long term deal with the Sixers for lower annual money than expected and taking the QO and betting on him self for a better contract next year (Non Tax-MLE then 15.5 million).
From Sixers perspective I'd rather give him a higher salary and get him on a 4 year 62 million dollar contract that takes him well into his prime, than a 36 million deal for 3 years for example.
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Will not pretend that I've watched a lot of Nets basketball, so I don't know much about Watford. However, it is always a good sign if the entire fanbase is upset that someone leaves. Gives us some size at the wings, more a 3-4 tweener than 4-5 though.
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Watford is a point forward! Love it. We’re going for the OKC or IND model. Young athletes.
Plus Joshy saves some money too! That’s always important.
Farewell Yabu!
Plus Joshy saves some money too! That’s always important.
Farewell Yabu!
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I know Embiid and George are overpaid relative to their contracts, but Boome, VJ, Edwards, and likely Grimes are going to be bargains. Especially if we can re-sign Yabu on a team-friendly deal, that would more than make up for our cap sins.
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I watch a fair amount of Nets games. Watford is a point forward, I know him because he’s trying to take away usage from Lord Cam
Boome and Watford are good passers and are not the type who you’d just treat like Ben Simmons at the 3pt arc.
Lots of guard play, steals, dunks, and passing bigs.. a breath of fresh air for good basketball
Boome and Watford are good passers and are not the type who you’d just treat like Ben Simmons at the 3pt arc.
Lots of guard play, steals, dunks, and passing bigs.. a breath of fresh air for good basketball
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I say dump some money and sign Ayton!
I think he's underrated due to the contract he was on. As a max guy he's a team building killer. As a sub-full MLE guy, I think he's a quality player.
He also kinda has a similar game to Embiid, so you're not running a completely different scheme when Jo's out. Great size, good mid range game, gets mopey sometimes. Perfect!
Of course, he's likely going somewhere to be a clear cut full time starter.
I think he's underrated due to the contract he was on. As a max guy he's a team building killer. As a sub-full MLE guy, I think he's a quality player.
He also kinda has a similar game to Embiid, so you're not running a completely different scheme when Jo's out. Great size, good mid range game, gets mopey sometimes. Perfect!
Of course, he's likely going somewhere to be a clear cut full time starter.
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HotelVitale wrote:Mik317 wrote:its less about not doing quick moves but you see other teams get out of bad deal and make steals by being active...Morey's entire tenure has been him waiting for one move to happen and then just picking at scraps afterwards or nothing at all.
The Nuggets got off the MPJ contract for a better player, SAVED MONEY, and added to their depth. Thats the **** good FO do. I didn't even think they had any moves to make but they did. A Good FO makes moves that you don't even think about....we have telegraphed all of our moves since Morey has been here imo (trade for Harden, then sign PG).
I get your point but the nuggets gave up an unprotected future first to do that, and it was overwhelmingly a cost cutting move.
Also not sure what’d indicate that Morey and crew isn’t aware of or thinking about other possibilities just because he’s obsessed with the big star moves. He’s always good at margin moves and creative solutions. Those things just haven’t mattered much with the star things flopping.
To me, the DEN move was a stroke of genius. They were in jail cap-wise with nowhere to go to upgrade the roster, and in one move improved the roster and gave themselves some room to add more. The 1st is irrelevant when you are trying to maximize the time they will have a generational player still at the top of his game. They gave themselves a chance to compete now, which is really all that matters as long as Jokic is there.
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mjkvol wrote:HotelVitale wrote:Mik317 wrote:its less about not doing quick moves but you see other teams get out of bad deal and make steals by being active...Morey's entire tenure has been him waiting for one move to happen and then just picking at scraps afterwards or nothing at all.
The Nuggets got off the MPJ contract for a better player, SAVED MONEY, and added to their depth. Thats the **** good FO do. I didn't even think they had any moves to make but they did. A Good FO makes moves that you don't even think about....we have telegraphed all of our moves since Morey has been here imo (trade for Harden, then sign PG).
I get your point but the nuggets gave up an unprotected future first to do that, and it was overwhelmingly a cost cutting move.
Also not sure what’d indicate that Morey and crew isn’t aware of or thinking about other possibilities just because he’s obsessed with the big star moves. He’s always good at margin moves and creative solutions. Those things just haven’t mattered much with the star things flopping.
To me, the DEN move was a stroke of genius. They were in jail cap-wise with nowhere to go to upgrade the roster, and in one move improved the roster and gave themselves some room to add more. The 1st is irrelevant when you are trying to maximize the time they will have a generational player still at the top of his game. They gave themselves a chance to compete now, which is really all that matters as long as Jokic is there.
Agreed, the nets let them off the hook. Marks seems to be a mediocre GM at best.
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Jailblazers7 wrote:Watford is an awesome signing, nice way to cushion the blow of a likely Yabu exit. This has been an excellent offseason imo.
Morey has added good, smart (and young) basketball players to the roster & sometimes it’s best when the plan is that simple.
Totally agree. There were no big moves to be made other than a George trade if one became possible, and Morey didn't do what I feared most, bringing in older win-now players and spending any draft capital or youth.
Add Grimes, but only at the right price ($15-16 mil max), and let's run with what we have with an eye toward '26-'27 and beyond.
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eyeatoma wrote:Ummm why?
Why not?
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ProcessDoctor wrote:Morey sticking to his 26 and under comment. Maybe he isn’t a liar?
We love our big beautiful truth-teller
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mjkvol wrote:Jailblazers7 wrote:Watford is an awesome signing, nice way to cushion the blow of a likely Yabu exit. This has been an excellent offseason imo.
Morey has added good, smart (and young) basketball players to the roster & sometimes it’s best when the plan is that simple.
Totally agree. There were no big moves to be made other than a George trade if one became possible, and Morey didn't do what I feared most, bringing in older win-now players and spending any draft capital or youth.
Add Grimes, but only at the right price ($15-16 mil max), and let's run with what we have with an eye toward '26-'27 and beyond.
As the roster stands today:
Maxey / McCain
Edgecombe / Council
PG / Edwards
Oubre / Watford / Broome
Embiid / Bona / Drummond
We’ll have 3 more roster spots plus 3 2-way guys.
If we pay someone to take Drummond, Oubre is our 3rd oldest player at 29. I like the shift here, hopefully Morey refrains from adding another guy who was playing in the league before Edgecombe was born..
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After the Watford signing, I have us at $11.7MM of Cap Space with three spots remaining (Not including incomplete roster holds).
Player Salary
Embiid $55,224,526
PG $51,666,090
Maxey $37,958,760
VJ $11,100,000
Oubre $8,382,150
Drummond $5,000,000
McCain $4,221,360
Watford $2,461,463
Council $2,221,677
Edwards $2,048,494
Bona $1,955,377
Broome $2,000,000
Current Salary $184,239,897
First Apron $195,945,000
Remaining Roster Spots 3
Remaining in First Apron $11,705,103
Player Salary
Embiid $55,224,526
PG $51,666,090
Maxey $37,958,760
VJ $11,100,000
Oubre $8,382,150
Drummond $5,000,000
McCain $4,221,360
Watford $2,461,463
Council $2,221,677
Edwards $2,048,494
Bona $1,955,377
Broome $2,000,000
Current Salary $184,239,897
First Apron $195,945,000
Remaining Roster Spots 3
Remaining in First Apron $11,705,103
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Iscull wrote:After the Watford signing, I have us at $11.7MM of Cap Space with three spots remaining (Not including incomplete roster holds).
Player Salary
Embiid $55,224,526
PG $51,666,090
Maxey $37,958,760
VJ $11,100,000
Oubre $8,382,150
Drummond $5,000,000
McCain $4,221,360
Watford $2,461,463
Council $2,221,677
Edwards $2,048,494
Bona $1,955,377
Broome $2,000,000
Current Salary $184,239,897
First Apron $195,945,000
Remaining Roster Spots 3
Remaining in First Apron $11,705,103
You're pretty close to Cap Sheets which has us at $182.2m for 11 players, not including Broome. I assume he's closer to $1.2m than $2m so that would put us at $183.5m including Broome for 12 players.
https://www.capsheets.com/philadelphia-76ers-cap-sheet/
Another vet min (Lowry?) will be around $2.3m putting us around $186m for 13 players.
Grimes will be the 14th and last player. If he is $16m in year 1 we're then at $202m for 14 players. That is $14m over the tax line of $188m, $6m over the 1st Apron of $196m, and $6m below the 2nd Apron of $208m.