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2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#701 » by Wiltside » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:38 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiggins clearly is the best fit for the Lakers by far. They can’t go into next season with Rui as the sole wing defender. They should be banging down our door for Wiggins.


Aren’t Pimplinka and Riles tight? Surely a deal can be done here.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#702 » by SA37 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:45 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiggins clearly is the best fit for the Lakers by far. They can’t go into next season with Rui as the sole wing defender. They should be banging down our door for Wiggins.


Aren’t Pimplinka and Riles tight? Surely a deal can be done here.


I don't think Miami wants to move Wiggins that badly and would be totally ok opening the season with him. As teams make a playoff push, Wiggins could be more valuable to teams at the deadline.
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Post#703 » by SoFlaKingReal » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:46 am

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Vertical Limit wrote:Duncan probably got bad advice on opting out.. and he probably regrets it with the way free agency has been working against him…

but its good for us because he was massively overpaid.. he is a 5 million per year player at best..


We're gonna read the same story about how Anthony Carter's agent paid him back because he "f'd up."

https://sports.yahoo.com/anthony-carter-is-still-paid-yearly-by-his-agent-13-years-after-a-contract-mishap-210455760.html


FA has been weird, man. Gary Trent signed a 2-year $7.5M deal while Kennard signed a 1-year, $11M deal. So many guys signing for under $10M/season and here is Miami giving D Mitchell $12M/year.


Davion Mitchell was a Restricted Free Agent so it’s a bit different. Heat didn’t want to deal with having to match an outside offer and the related issues. I think they overpaid him a bit to prevent that.

The Heat could’ve also just completely overstated Mitchell’s market. Maybe no one offers more than 5 mil a year who knows. The Heat didn’t want to wait and find out for better or worse.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#704 » by Rapaz » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:51 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiggins clearly is the best fit for the Lakers by far. They can’t go into next season with Rui as the sole wing defender. They should be banging down our door for Wiggins.


Aren’t Pimplinka and Riles tight? Surely a deal can be done here.

My workload has gotten in the way and I haven’t been able to stop by his nursing home as much as I used to. I might need to swing by on Mega Bingo Tuesday to seal the deal.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#705 » by Vertical Limit » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:55 am

I feel a blockbuster deal is coming, and it’s going to involve Lebron being moved. And it may end up with Giannis moving to LA.

Not sure the Lakers really care for Wiggins now to be honest. I thought it made sense if they were keeping Lebron… but it looks like there is a possibility that lebron will waive his NTC for a trade that moves him out..

The lakers are trying to kickstart their new era right now with Luka.

Maybe we can get in on it.. i assume the lakers will need a third team involved and if we can get assets in return lets do it..
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Post#706 » by SoFlaKingReal » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:04 am

Shams says the Lakers are prioritizing two-year contracts and want to have max cap space in 2027.
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Post#707 » by Rapaz » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:18 am

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Post#708 » by Crazy-Canuck » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:30 am

Teams are prioritizing shooting and/or defense, yet the heat are focused on no defense and no shooting based on their links to derozan and kuminga.

Hawks have done really well this offseason. Bulls will overpay giddey and will probably get into a bidding war with the Heat for kuminga.

Heat, bulls, and kings fighting for kuminga..
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Post#709 » by Daffy » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:40 am

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I’m predicting Atl and Charlotte finish ahead of Mia


Charlotte? Yall really come on here and say anything.


We can avy bet or something if u want

It’s not like I’m a fan of charlotte

Just a matter at looking at their young roster and believing in improvement


Let's do it. Call your bet.
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Post#710 » by SA37 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:17 am

Vertical Limit wrote:I feel a blockbuster deal is coming, and it’s going to involve Lebron being moved. And it may end up with Giannis moving to LA.

Not sure the Lakers really care for Wiggins now to be honest. I thought it made sense if they were keeping Lebron… but it looks like there is a possibility that lebron will waive his NTC for a trade that moves him out..

The lakers are trying to kickstart their new era right now with Luka.

Maybe we can get in on it.. i assume the lakers will need a third team involved and if we can get assets in return lets do it..


LeBron has a no-trade clause, and he isn't OKing a deal to Milwaukee.

FWIW, this is from ESPN:

ESPN's Bobby Marks reported on "Get Up" this morning that there is not a robust trade market for the 40-year-old superstar. "I talked to numerous teams yesterday and asked that same question. 'Would you give up basically the farm?' You'd have to give up four or five players to go get LeBron James for one year, and the unanimous answer was no, they wouldn't."


I can only see Cleveland (Garland and Strus), San Antonio (Vassell, Barnes, and Johnson), Minnesota (Gobert, DVV, and Conley), and the Knicks (for Towns) as viable options here. Philadelphia, Golden St and Miami have an outside shot at LeBron, but someone would have to eat Paul George's deal and LeBron would have to trust Embiid would be healthy. Golden St would have to either trade Butler or the Lakers would have to take Kuminga in a S&T along with D Green. Miami basically only has Wiggins and garbage contracts to offer.

And I imagine LeBron would want Bronny to go with him, which would cost a team a draft pick.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#711 » by SA37 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:19 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Teams are prioritizing shooting and/or defense, yet the heat are focused on no defense and no shooting based on their links to derozan and kuminga.

Hawks have done really well this offseason. Bulls will overpay giddey and will probably get into a bidding war with the Heat for kuminga.

Heat, bulls, and kings fighting for kuminga..


Miami needs players, not one-trick ponies with only 1 skill. Miami has plenty of shooting, but most of those guys just can't play outside of a rigid structure. They can't take guys off the dribble, they can't draw fouls, they have 0 creativity.

Miami's has been amongst the most pathetic and offensive -- as in, insulting -- offenses over the last ~3 seasons. Defense isn't the issue. Miami can't score. In an era of teams scoring ~115ppg, Miami has only managed ~80-85 points numerous times. It's just embarrassing to be held under 95 at this point.
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Post#712 » by CWebb2491 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:28 am

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Damn…… even Barry thinks it’s time for Pat to retire.

Listen…. I live Pat, he’s a legend. Him and Wade will forever be the coach/player face of this history organization. But I think we can see it’s time. He hasn’t made a Godfather like move since 2006.

His reaction to drafting Kaspa…. showed his age. The question is who can fill the role? We need someone who can build contenders more often than rebuilding.
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Post#713 » by CWebb2491 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:51 am

We could have got Clint Capella as a back up veteran big and Gary Trent Jr for the money they signed with our Full Mid Level…..

What the hell is the plan?

Ware Capella
Bam Jovic
Wiggins Jaquez Highsmith
Herro Trent Jr
Mitchell Kaspa Dru. Terry


Then you still have Wiggins, Terry’s (expiring) and 2 firsts to try and get a all star caliber SF.


I’m genuinely disappointed in the front office…..

They’ve struck out on how many players who asked to be here? Won’t sign free agents with the Mid level, a trade takes them 2 months and even then it’s 95/5 it won’t happen.

Am I the only one fatigued?
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Post#714 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:22 am

Lilseb93 wrote:If we've made play-ins with G-league guys and super raw players, it's unlikely our first-round guys and young guys who will be stronger and more improved will somehow be WORSE. Never mind, top 5 bad. They went through a horrendous breakup that destroyed the season, and they still made the playoffs. Now they are going to be top 5 bad? I don't see it. It's more likely they will be better. Just not competing for a title.



And that's the worst thing to be - not good enough to contend, not bad enough to add high lottery talent to change our faith.

I swear if I see Wiggins/Rozier/Anderson getting minutes so can fight to get the #9 seed...

Go full young, make moves for the future, maximize the draft. Don't make this season even worse then what it needs to be by watching old journeymen suck.
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Post#715 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:30 am

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Post#716 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:41 am

Vertical Limit wrote:Duncan probably got bad advice on opting out.. even if we exercised the early termination he would have made more money.. and he probably regrets it with the way free agency has been working against him…

but its good for us because he was massively overpaid.. he is a 5 million per year player at best..


Watch us give him a longer term contract.

He's not an Idiot, We gave him a promise and hoped someone else will pay him. No one will.
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Post#717 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:44 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Wiggins clearly is the best fit for the Lakers by far. They can’t go into next season with Rui as the sole wing defender. They should be banging down our door for Wiggins.


Aren’t Pimplinka and Riles tight? Surely a deal can be done here.



If Pat and Pimplinka seat down we might lose Bam and Ware for Vincent and Markieff Morris.
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Post#718 » by MiamiSun » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:00 am

You guys keep running your tired take about Riley, how many time do people have to tell you that Riley is not the one running everything. It's a group effort and he is the face and voice of it. It is a collective of people within the Heat organization that includes Spo, Mourning, Andy, Mickey...etc
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Post#719 » by contract » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:01 am

Vertical Limit wrote:I feel a blockbuster deal is coming, and it’s going to involve Lebron being moved. And it may end up with Giannis moving to LA.

Not sure the Lakers really care for Wiggins now to be honest. I thought it made sense if they were keeping Lebron… but it looks like there is a possibility that lebron will waive his NTC for a trade that moves him out..

The lakers are trying to kickstart their new era right now with Luka.

Maybe we can get in on it.. i assume the lakers will need a third team involved and if we can get assets in return lets do it..

Is it my imagination or was Lebron just whining about ring culture not even two or three weeks ago? And now he wants to go chase a ring? :lol:

The Lakers should just tell him "no". If he wanted out he should have declined his player option. Make him play that out with the son the Lakers drafted to appease him.
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Post#720 » by contract » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:10 am

MiamiSun wrote:You guys keep running your tired take about Riley, how many time do people have to tell you that Riley is not the one running everything. It's a group effort and he is the face and voice of it. It is a collective of people within the Heat organization that includes Spo, Mourning, Andy, Mickey...etc

So Pat doesn't deserve the credit everyone has been giving him for our success since he got here?

And if he's just the face, then I guess there would be no issue with a new face in his place, right?

Pat is always there to take the credit and the praise. I don't understand the need that some people have to protect "The Godfather" from criticism when things aren't going well.
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