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Giannis wants to win. Having Dame still here wasn't going to allow that to happen. He's fine with it and saving face. It was a worthy experiment that failed. Point Giannis returns with an excellent big.
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Impressive manuevering by Horst here. Gotta give it up to him. The roster still needs a facelift though.
We can't be serious and starting Kyle Kuzma.
We can't be serious and starting Kyle Kuzma.
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Wonder if any team give Dames the Ingles deal. I would roll the dice on Dame being a net positive off the bench guy come mid-April over some other guy left on the market.
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SirChurros wrote:The whole “Giannis is unhappy” thing sounds like bait to me.
I think it's because of Giannis posting on Twitter "I don't know what's going on right now man."
I don't necessarily think it means he is unhappy, but that can't be ruled out.
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Ron Swanson wrote:At this point you pretty much have to push all the chips in (come on down best wing/guard we can get with the 2031 1st and 2032 pick swap).
I guess, it is anymore so than 12 hours ago? In some ways I think we in a better position to pivot to tank than we were yesterday
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I feel like there is absolutely no way they dont run this by dame or giannis
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Turk Nowitzki wrote:There's zero chance they didn't run this by Giannis, I don't care what Haynes says. If he wants to put out cover in the media for Giannis then fine but not even the Bucks are dumb enough to pull these levers unless they know Giannis is good with it.
100%. Giannis can’t publicly do Dame dirty.
This is all an act. And it will pump the value of our 2031 and 2032 picks in the minds of a dope GM.
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Still trade Kuz and Conny for Wiggins.
Sign some vet PG for the min
Feels better, tbd I suppose.
PG: KPJ...........Rollins......X
SG: Trent.........Green.......Jackson
SF: Wiggins.....Prince.......Livingston
PF: Giannis......Portis.......Smith
C: Turner.........Sims........Markovic
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Sign some vet PG for the min
Feels better, tbd I suppose.
PG: KPJ...........Rollins......X
SG: Trent.........Green.......Jackson
SF: Wiggins.....Prince.......Livingston
PF: Giannis......Portis.......Smith
C: Turner.........Sims........Markovic
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Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Wonder if any team give Dames the Ingles deal. I would roll the dice on Dame being a net positive off the bench guy come mid-April over some other guy left on the market.
Can we sign him next year? We have him 113 million reasons
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Garbs_7 wrote:$20+ mil in dead money on the books for the next 5 years is rough. Really hamstrings us but I guess only the next 2-3 with Giannis in his prime matter anyway ?
I guess if the cap is going up significantly, It won't hurt so bad.
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Matches Malone wrote:
LOL at "League sources" not even "Bucks sources"
"Yeah, Nico is told me Giannis isn't happy about this."
Amos Barshad: "So you got a job, a place to live, a license? What’s left?"
Giannis: “Nothing. Just get a ring now.”
Giannis: “Nothing. Just get a ring now.”
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Even though Shooting the J has Lopez derangement syndrome, I want to compliment him on being the first guy to talk about waving and stretching Lillard. Was a great idea when he first brought it up on this board two months ago. I loved it, and it now happened.
The Bucks understood late career Dame was a high-calorie, low impact scorer at this point in his career. There was nothing to wait around for in 2026.
The Bucks understood late career Dame was a high-calorie, low impact scorer at this point in his career. There was nothing to wait around for in 2026.
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This move at least gives us a shot, keeping Dame would've wasted another year of Giannis. It had to be done. There's a better chance right now of getting another chip than a few hours ago.
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Ron Swanson wrote:At this point you pretty much have to push all the chips in (come on down best wing/guard we can get with the 2031 1st and 2032 pick swap).
Yep. Like emunney said, empty the clip.
#FreeChuckDiesel
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I mean, RIP "Center Giannis" though. Doc is still here and it's clear that we're gonna be playing just as many jumbo lineups as ever, because we've somehow committed even more money to the frontcourt lol.
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MikeIsGood wrote:jakecronus8 wrote:Haynes reporting Giannis isn't happy about waiving Dame?
Wasn't happy about trading Jrue, firing Bud, trading Midds. They're letting him save some face with his friends. Giannis absolutely knows what is happening.
Part of the fine print of Giannis staying is Giannis able to publicly say how he loves anyone coming in and especially how he hates anybody leaving. Horst has no problem taking that bullet. Turner's contract seems fine to me for a well-above average big. I need to know more about how stretching Dame affects the finances specifically.
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Giannis, Turner, Bobby, Pat, Green, Jackson, Livingston, Smith along with Dame’s dead money cost 156,236 mil and that’s with not taking into account the 4 empty spots (KPJ and GTJ probably share the room exception).
The cap is at 154,647, which means that someone else has to be involved too. Pat waived and stretched too?
The cap is at 154,647, which means that someone else has to be involved too. Pat waived and stretched too?
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Okay okay so now my head is just spinning, so please bear with me if I sound like a complete moron in my next sentence. But like...if no one claims Dame and assumes his albatross contract...we can just...sign him again right?
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We got a starting mobile big and he can shoot. Turner is perfect next to Giannis.