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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million 

Post#1681 » by BuckFan25226 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:11 pm

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Post#1682 » by PG Graveyard » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:11 pm

If the Bucks told Dame beforehand he would have leaked it to Haynes and Haynes would have broadcast it. Sorry but that is how this stuff works unfortunately
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million - Gary Harris Signed 

Post#1683 » by Bernman » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:12 pm

When I was interested in a leader, I looked up Gary Harris, and he's been spoken about highly in this regard. Don't know how much on court juice he has left and it's a weird positional fit w/ GTJ & Green already here.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million 

Post#1684 » by Matches Malone » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:12 pm

Sigra wrote:Can we waive and strech Kuzma too? :)


Kuzma and Pat for a guard or wing would be amazing right now.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million - Gary Harris Signed 

Post#1685 » by jimmybones » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:12 pm

Harris is just a vet body to take Pats role and he’s fine for that
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million 

Post#1686 » by Iheartfootball » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:12 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Haynes's report that Giannis is unhappy with the Dame stretch is just PR from Giannis, no? They wouldn't have made this move without the Giannis OK.


Your bull meter is working...PERFECTLY. Proceed.

I feel a mix of confused (Dame/sad?) celebration (Turner/joy?) with a dash of WTF (F.O./fear?). Anyone could convince me of any outcome next season.

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Post#1687 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:12 pm

Harris has been washed for multiple seasons. Not sure about this one, but I guess depth is fine.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million 

Post#1688 » by soxperry » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:12 pm

So we have one spot left i think.

Garry has to be a vet min right?

He profiles as a plus defender who hits 3s but is an overall negative on offense. Feels like this year's Delon Wright
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million - Gary Harris Signed 

Post#1689 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:12 pm

I'd like to see an AJG extension at some point. But not all moves have to be made immediately.
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Post#1690 » by humanrefutation » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:13 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:If the Bucks told Dame beforehand he would have leaked it to Haynes and Haynes would have broadcast it. Sorry but that is how this stuff works unfortunately


I'm guessing they weren't going to stretch Dame unless they landed one of their other targets via trade or FA. Once Turner signed, Dame was gone.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million 

Post#1691 » by drew881 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:13 pm

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Sigra wrote:Can we waive and strech Kuzma too? :)


Kuzma and Pat for a guard or wing would be amazing right now.


Kuzma probably couldn’t stretch and waive at the same time.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million 

Post#1692 » by agiaco » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:13 pm

DingleJerry wrote:Interesting. Seems they're giving it a go in the wide open East.

Have to say I've gotten some chuckles about how Turner sucks because he lost in the NBA Finals. Guy has been starter and key player for a team that's been winning his whole career. Made the final four last year and game 7 of the finals this year. But he lost in them so he sucks.

I was one who was onto Turner as a cheap Brook replacement years ago when he and Sabonis were overlapping and it was clear one had to go. Of course I was told he sucks then too, as he's gone onto crush the bucks over and over the last few years. That said, I'm now a bit worried we're getting him right as he's about to start declining. But, 27ish per year rather than some crazy 45 mil overpay make it palatable.


Yeah he sucks even though he **** on the Bucks and Cavs on their way to the Finals. He's about the ideal big to pair with Giannis and a big upgrade over Brook and a much better fit than Ayton who many were clamoring for
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million - Gary Harris Signed 

Post#1693 » by Profound23 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:13 pm

I know you guys are going to laugh at me, but I would rather sign Russ or CP3 over Harris.

Would rather go younger and more athletic than any of the three, but think Russ or CP3 might have made a decent replacement for Dame.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million 

Post#1694 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:14 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Ugh, Harris is pretty washed. Even for a minimum that's a hard sell.

Can someone explain to me what happened that a 28 year old who started 42 games (albeit on a worse team) and **** 62%TS turned into a 30 year old that hardly played with a 56%TS? Any injuries? Just a weird good year?
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Post#1695 » by drew881 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:14 pm

Profound23 wrote:I know you guys are going to laugh at me, but I would rather sign Russ or CP3 over Harris.

Would rather go younger and more athletic than any of the three, but think Russ or CP3 might have made a decent replacement for Dame.


CP3 sure, Russ no
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Post#1696 » by Matches Malone » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:14 pm

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Post#1698 » by Bernman » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:15 pm

Yea, they'll look for any way to spin a Bucks' move as negative to get Giannis out and fit their narrative. They're bending over backwards to appease him w/ every move, including bringing him in frequently in the past. Now they're not going to this? GTFO.

Giannis told Dame he was sad. I'm sure he was, like he is when most teammates leave. That's the way the business worked. You can't prioritize keeping relationships & winning permanently.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million 

Post#1699 » by jute2003 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:15 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Ugh, Harris is pretty washed. Even for a minimum that's a hard sell.

Can someone explain to me what happened that a 28 year old who started 42 games (albeit on a worse team) and **** 62%TS turned into a 30 year old that hardly played with a 56%TS? Any injuries? Just a weird good year?
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dame Waived, Turner 4/$107 million - Gary Harris Signed 

Post#1700 » by soxperry » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:15 pm

This is all well and good..

But can someone please explain to me the benefit of using the mle on Trent and Kpj when you didnt have to for either one? We could have used the full 14 or close to it for someone else and now we simply cannot for what upside???

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