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Post #881 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:02 pm

spearsy23 wrote:Maybe I'm more risk adverse than most GMs, but it seems pointless to give Dame a contract right now rather than let him rehab on his own time and try him out once he is close to ready. Who knows if you'll need him a year from now or if he'll even be an nba player a year from now?

Its a way to get him on a cheaper number for next year though right? Pay him to rehab this year as a bonus while keeping his cap hit lower.

Now it might not matter because he is getting all his Bucks money and so he might just pick based on where he wants to be with no worries over money, but that would be a reason.

Post #882 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:03 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Where does Dame end up after all this? I imagine some team will give him a 1+TO or 2+TO deal to see if he's got anything left on the other side of his Achilles rehab, but I'm struggling to figure out who.

Or maybe he just takes his paycheck and calls it a career. Idk.

I mean if a team would do the full MLE its essentially 1/$30M or so right? Where he gets the first half of his money to rehab this year? But is there a single team with access to that he would sign with?

Heat? Magic? Trailblazers? Those are the ones that jump out at me.

K_chile22 · Post #883 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:04 pm

gswhoops wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Where does Dame end up after all this? I imagine some team will give him a 1+TO or 2+TO deal to see if he's got anything left on the other side of his Achilles rehab, but I'm struggling to figure out who.

Or maybe he just takes his paycheck and calls it a career. Idk.

I mean if a team would do the full MLE its essentially 1/$30M or so right? Where he gets the first half of his money to rehab this year? But is there a single team with access to that he would sign with?

Heat? Magic? Trailblazers? Those are the ones that jump out at me.

Not sure they can fit that under the first apron but certainly can't under the tax and I don't think they'd pay the tax to redshirt dame for a year. I don't think the mle is out there for him

Post #884 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:06 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
I mean if a team would do the full MLE its essentially 1/$30M or so right? Where he gets the first half of his money to rehab this year? But is there a single team with access to that he would sign with?

Heat? Magic? Trailblazers? Those are the ones that jump out at me.
Not sure they can fit that under the first apron but certainly can't under the tax and I don't think they'd pay the tax to redshirt dame for a year. I don't think the mle is out there for him

Who's they here?

jayjaysee · Post #885 » by **jayjaysee** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:08 pm

gswhoops wrote:Where does Dame end up after all this? I imagine some team will give him a 1+TO or 2+TO deal to see if he's got anything left on the other side of his Achilles rehab, but I'm struggling to figure out who.

Or maybe he just takes his paycheck and calls it a career. Idk.

2+1 team option would buy early bird rights if you give him close to the fullMLE for ages 35-36? Could offer him 22-25mil for ages 37-?? to finish his career? Or just keep him on year 3 if he’s not willing to sign a long term deal..

Not saying it’s very likely but Portland is interesting there…

Boston is kind of really interesting if they get far enough under the tax to use their MLE.. dump as much as Simons as possible, dump Hauser and Niang..

K_chile22 · Post #886 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:20 pm

gswhoops wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Heat? Magic? Trailblazers? Those are the ones that jump out at me.
Not sure they can fit that under the first apron but certainly can't under the tax and I don't think they'd pay the tax to redshirt dame for a year. I don't think the mle is out there for him

Who's they here?

All of those teams

RookieJazz · Post #887 » by **RookieJazz** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:20 pm

Is Minnesota FO on summer vacation?

Post #888 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:24 pm

RookieJazz wrote:Is Minnesota FO on summer vacation?

Huh? They signed their two most important free agents.

Post #889 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:25 pm

Read on Twitter

K_chile22 · Post #890 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:27 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is obviously face saving lol absolutely no way they do this without him knowing, plus ESPN piece was talking about how Turner and Giannis were talking and excited to play together

Post #891 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:28 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Read on Twitter
This is obviously face saving lol absolutely no way they do this without him knowing, plus ESPN piece was talking about how Turner and Giannis were talking and excited to play together

Yeah Haynes is a known Dame guy, I wouldn't put too much stock into this.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #892 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:28 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:

Read on Twitter
This is obviously face saving lol absolutely no way they do this without him knowing, plus ESPN piece was talking about how Turner and Giannis were talking and excited to play together

Yeah this was discussed at length in the Turner thread.

Godaddycurse · Post #893 » by **Godaddycurse** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:31 pm

RookieJazz wrote:Is Minnesota FO on summer vacation?

Is Toronto FO on summer vaca- oh right

jscott · Post #894 » by **jscott** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:34 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
RookieJazz wrote:Is Minnesota FO on summer vacation?

Huh? They signed their two most important free agents.

And traded NAW to the Hawks.

Post #895 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:39 pm

Raptors gave Poeltl an extension.

ReggiesKnicks · Post #896 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:48 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
RookieJazz wrote:Is Minnesota FO on summer vacation?

Huh? They signed their two most important free agents.

I'm also confused by this statement from our beloved RookieJazz.

2022 Off-Season: Massive Trade
2023 Off-Season: Stay the course
2024 Off-Season: Massive Trade
2025 Off-Season: Stay the course

Somehow, Minnesota also has more intriguing young players who could become something at this moment in time than they did in 2023, the previous off-season, where they stayed the course.

A simple and effective off-season for Minnesota.

Meanwhile, we are 2 weeks from the NBA Finals, and I feel like we are going to have a Top 5 pick in 2026.

jayjaysee · Post #897 » by **jayjaysee** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:26 pm

If I suggest Demar to Dallas as part of a Pascal to Sacramento trade.. Rude to Indy fans and Dallas fans will yell at me again..

But Jonas trade could be tied in to it so just would need another vet min from Sac added.. And Sac has a TPE so could take back some of Dallas salaries if you wanted.. And Sac has some extra draft capital..

Post #898 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:28 pm

jayjaysee wrote:If I suggest Demar to Dallas as part of a Pascal to Sacramento trade.. Rude to Indy fans and Dallas fans will yell at me again..

But Jonas trade could be tied in to it so just would need another vet min from Sac added.. And Sac has a TPE so could take back some of Dallas salaries if you wanted.. And Sac has some extra draft capital..

So Siakam for no salary in return and picks from Sacramento? I guess show me how it works with Indy getting no salary back and you might not get yelled at? :lol:

Post #899 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:31 pm

RookieJazz wrote:Is Minnesota FO on summer vacation?

Nope

Post #900 » by **Klomp** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:32 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Somehow, Minnesota also has more intriguing young players who could become something at this moment in time than they did in 2023, the previous off-season, where they stayed the course.

Also doing this in spite of "trading away all of our assets" for Gobert, as many said....