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[Axl Rose]

Milwaukee on a roll today. Meanwhile AK is in an interrogation room with Giddey trying to get a yes out of him for 20 mil.

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[Infinity2152]

Nowadays you have social media personalities making millions so people can watch them eat or tell you why all women are evil and you should never get married. OF workers making millions to strip. TikTokers making millions for posting 15 second clips of themselves regularly. There's enormous value in being one of the best people on the planet in any sport when you're playing in the best league in the world. Players get paid a percentage of the money the league makes. If the league makes that much money, why should the workers who actually create the product not get some of the gains too? Lakers were just sold for $10 billion. It's a new world.

I agree why don't the workers that are working hard for the product not get some gains, the security guards at each game still make minimum wage, the concessions workers make minimum wages, etc. I'm not saying players shouldn't make money...they should but if we're stating that all the people that are working hard to make the product a billion dollar industry everyone should get a taste then and that just isn't the case. We pay players and we pay owners millions if not billions, yet all those other people that make the games happen get zilch.

I've got a buddy who works security at Milwauke Bucks games, he makes barely 40k per year, but when they went for raises this past year the owner told them no because they got tax bills and salaries to pay. His words, not mine, so there is probably some fallacy to that but still shows that they're not spreading the wealth to those that deserve it.

Stadium workers and security guards aren't the ones generating money.

Thank you. The NBA players are the product. Not only that, but only .00001% of people can play in the NBA. How many people can be security guards? Much more replaceable. Not knocking his job, worked security for a while myself. Took a 3 day course to qualify for the unarmed license. A week I think for armed.

The players are actually seriously capped by what they can make. A player like Jokic or prime Lebron or SGA would get 60% of the cap if allowed. The amount players can make is directly tied to NBA income. It's a competitive market, you can decide not to pay Coby $30 mill if you're the Bulls. You'll just lose him in free agency to a team that does.

[Red8911]

Milwaukee on a roll today. Meanwhile AK is in an interrogation room with Giddey trying to get a yes out of him for 20 mil.

Milwaukee has messed up one of the best situations in the league. They have Giannis. That trade for Lillard cost them Jrue Holiday, an unprotected first, two swaps, and now they have Lillard as $22 mill dead money for the next 5 years. Replaced Middleton with Kuzma. The Myles Turner upgrade is nice, but $22 mill dead money for 5 years is legit crazy in Milwaukee. Went from a core of Jrue, Middleton, Giannis, Lopez to Giannis, Kuzma, Turner, three bigs. With dead money.

Oh yeah I totally agree despite these moves they are still fkd. After they start underperforming again Giannis will finally ask out, they will get a few picks back and we won’t hear about Milwaukee again for another 20 years.

[ChiTownHero1992]

Nowadays you have social media personalities making millions so people can watch them eat or tell you why all women are evil and you should never get married. OF workers making millions to strip. TikTokers making millions for posting 15 second clips of themselves regularly. There's enormous value in being one of the best people on the planet in any sport when you're playing in the best league in the world. Players get paid a percentage of the money the league makes. If the league makes that much money, why should the workers who actually create the product not get some of the gains too? Lakers were just sold for $10 billion. It's a new world.

I agree why don't the workers that are working hard for the product not get some gains, the security guards at each game still make minimum wage, the concessions workers make minimum wages, etc. I'm not saying players shouldn't make money...they should but if we're stating that all the people that are working hard to make the product a billion dollar industry everyone should get a taste then and that just isn't the case. We pay players and we pay owners millions if not billions, yet all those other people that make the games happen get zilch.

I've got a buddy who works security at Milwauke Bucks games, he makes barely 40k per year, but when they went for raises this past year the owner told them no because they got tax bills and salaries to pay. His words, not mine, so there is probably some fallacy to that but still shows that they're not spreading the wealth to those that deserve it.

Stadium workers and security guards aren't the ones generating money.

How so? If they weren't there the stadium couldn't open, therefore the game wouldn't make all that revenue from tickets, sales, etc Yea they're not making the TV revenue but they sure as hell keeping that team and owner making money to pay some bills...

[Red8911]

I agree why don't the workers that are working hard for the product not get some gains, the security guards at each game still make minimum wage, the concessions workers make minimum wages, etc. I'm not saying players shouldn't make money...they should but if we're stating that all the people that are working hard to make the product a billion dollar industry everyone should get a taste then and that just isn't the case. We pay players and we pay owners millions if not billions, yet all those other people that make the games happen get zilch.

I've got a buddy who works security at Milwauke Bucks games, he makes barely 40k per year, but when they went for raises this past year the owner told them no because they got tax bills and salaries to pay. His words, not mine, so there is probably some fallacy to that but still shows that they're not spreading the wealth to those that deserve it.

Stadium workers and security guards aren't the ones generating money.

Thank you. The NBA players are the product. Not only that, but only .00001% of people can play in the NBA. How many people can be security guards? Much more replaceable. Not knocking his job, worked security for a while myself. Took a 3 day course to qualify for the unarmed license. A week I think for armed.

The players are actually seriously capped by what they can make. A player like Jokic or prime Lebron or SGA would get 60% of the cap if allowed. The amount players can make is directly tied to NBA income. It's a competitive market, you can decide not to pay Coby $30 mill if you're the Bulls. You'll just lose him in free agency to a team that does.

Players are the product but how about the owners ? They paid a lot of money to own a team and still pay a lot to maintain it including taking care of the players.

They do make a profit obviously or else they wouldn’t be doing this but still without the owners investing crazy amounts of money this wouldn’t be possible. Players would just play basketball in a park .

[_txchilibowl_]

Why should doctors make more than janitors? Aren't they both important to running a hospital?

[Infinity2152]

Milwaukee on a roll today. Meanwhile AK is in an interrogation room with Giddey trying to get a yes out of him for 20 mil.

Milwaukee has messed up one of the best situations in the league. They have Giannis. That trade for Lillard cost them Jrue Holiday, an unprotected first, two swaps, and now they have Lillard as $22 mill dead money for the next 5 years. Replaced Middleton with Kuzma. The Myles Turner upgrade is nice, but $22 mill dead money for 5 years is legit crazy in Milwaukee. Went from a core of Jrue, Middleton, Giannis, Lopez to Giannis, Kuzma, Turner, three bigs. With dead money.

Oh yeah I totally agree despite these moves they are still fkd. After they start underperforming again Giannis will finally ask out, they will get a few picks back and we won’t hear about Milwaukee again for another 20 years.

JJJ getting supermax looks almost as bad. And losing Bane at the same time? Best player is Ja Morant's unstable ***. We complain about AK, but teams with actual top 10-15 players are making much worse moves, imo. Memphis had enough talent to really contend with the right moves.

Phoenix crashing out for years. Just trade Coby/Vucevic for Jalen Green/ re-signed Bol Bol and call it a day.

[greenwing]

My question is does Indiana now consider blowing it up until Haliburton is healthy again (hopefully for his sake he doesn’t lose too much athleticism)?

If so then Siakam could be made available. I think that’s one situation where you could consider trading Coby. Send out Coby, Vuc and Pat for Siakam and Tony Bradley as filler. Re-sign Giddey.

Giddey/Tre/Carter
Huerter/Dosunmu
Buzelis/Okoro/Terry
Siakam/Essengue/Phillips
Collins/Smith/Bradley

[Red8911]

Why should doctors make more than janitors? Aren't they both important to running a hospital?

You would definitely get all the janitor votes if you ran for president.

[Infinity2152]

Why should doctors make more than janitors? Aren't they both important to running a hospital?

One job can be filled by an unskilled 15 year old. The other requires undergraduate school, graduate school, potential 100k+ in student loans, internship when you do graduate, then expensive malpractice insurance plus those loan repayments the rest of your career and a high skill level. Janitors are rarely sued or charged if they don't do their job correctly.

If I'm coming to the hospital bleeding out, don't give a damn if they have good janitors. Now good doctors on the other hand.

[2weekswithpay]

Milwaukee has messed up one of the best situations in the league. They have Giannis. That trade for Lillard cost them Jrue Holiday, an unprotected first, two swaps, and now they have Lillard as $22 mill dead money for the next 5 years. Replaced Middleton with Kuzma. The Myles Turner upgrade is nice, but $22 mill dead money for 5 years is legit crazy in Milwaukee. Went from a core of Jrue, Middleton, Giannis, Lopez to Giannis, Kuzma, Turner, three bigs. With dead money.

Oh yeah I totally agree despite these moves they are still fkd. After they start underperforming again Giannis will finally ask out, they will get a few picks back and we won’t hear about Milwaukee again for another 20 years.

JJJ getting supermax looks almost as bad. And losing Bane at the same time? Best player is Ja Morant's unstable ***. We complain about AK, but teams with actual top 10-15 players are making much worse moves, imo. Memphis had enough talent to really contend with the right moves.

Phoenix crashing out for years. Just trade Coby/Vucevic for Jalen Green/ re-signed Bol Bol and call it a day.

JJJ isn't getting the supermax. The supermax would be 5 years 313M. JJJ signed for 5 years 240M.

[Red8911]

Shroder signed with the kings which was reported 2 days ago. Now will the kings get fined and lose a draft pick like the bulls did for lonzo ? Or are the Bulls the only team to get punished ?

Same for Dallas/Russell and a few other signings who were technically illegal to negotiate before the FA date.

[Infinity2152]

Oh yeah I totally agree despite these moves they are still fkd. After they start underperforming again Giannis will finally ask out, they will get a few picks back and we won’t hear about Milwaukee again for another 20 years.

JJJ getting supermax looks almost as bad. And losing Bane at the same time? Best player is Ja Morant's unstable ***. We complain about AK, but teams with actual top 10-15 players are making much worse moves, imo. Memphis had enough talent to really contend with the right moves.

Phoenix crashing out for years. Just trade Coby/Vucevic for Jalen Green/ re-signed Bol Bol and call it a day.

JJJ isn't getting the supermax. The supermax would be 5 years 313M. JJJ signed for 5 years 240M.

Oh, ok, thanks. That's MUCH different, was listening to a podcast and must have misheard them. I wouldn't give $48 mill AAV to big that averages less than 6 rebounds a game and 35% career from three, but I can vaguely see that working, if there's an outstanding rebounder next to him. He's getting paid more than Ja when it kicks in. Is he good enough to be the second best player on a championship team? I think I'd have found a way to pay him and keep Bane, if I'm paying him that much.

[Infinity2152]

Shroder signed with the kings which was reported 2 days ago. Now will the kings get fined and lose a draft pick like the bulls did for lonzo ? Or are the Bulls the only team to get punished ?

Same for Dallas/Russell and a few other signings who were technically illegal to negotiate before the FA date.

Two thumbs up! Way too many of these deals happening 5 minutes into FA and we're the only ones getting fined! Some of these destinations were reported and amounts before free agency even started, like Ty Jerome. Then somehow teams have negotiated sign and trades for players the receiving team could not have gotten without a S&T. Almost no team had significant free cap space.

[_txchilibowl_]

Why should doctors make more than janitors? Aren't they both important to running a hospital?

One job can be filled by an unskilled 15 year old. The other requires undergraduate school, graduate school, potential 100k+ in student loans, internship when you do graduate, then expensive malpractice insurance plus those loan repayments the rest of your career and a high skill level. Janitors are rarely sued or charged if they don't do their job correctly.

If I'm coming to the hospital bleeding out, don't give a damn if they have good janitors. Now good doctors on the other hand.

For the record, I was agreeing with you.

[Infinity2152]

Why should doctors make more than janitors? Aren't they both important to running a hospital?

One job can be filled by an unskilled 15 year old. The other requires undergraduate school, graduate school, potential 100k+ in student loans, internship when you do graduate, then expensive malpractice insurance plus those loan repayments the rest of your career and a high skill level. Janitors are rarely sued or charged if they don't do their job correctly.

If I'm coming to the hospital bleeding out, don't give a damn if they have good janitors. Now good doctors on the other hand.

For the record, I was agreeing with you.

Got you. Missed the sarcasm, throw a smiley face next time! My man compared the security guards to NBA players, thought maybe he wasn't the only one who was rocking that line of logic.

Basketball related income was over $10 billion in 2023. NBA players get 51% of BRI. Determines the salary cap. If teams weren't capped as to what percentage of the cap they can give to one player, contracts would be WAY worse. SGA could be a $100 mill/yr player right now.

[Dan Z]

The other problem with big money for players is that some of them will check out once theyre paid (For example Ben Simmons).

[jnrjr79]

Shroder signed with the kings which was reported 2 days ago. Now will the kings get fined and lose a draft pick like the bulls did for lonzo ? Or are the Bulls the only team to get punished ?

Same for Dallas/Russell and a few other signings who were technically illegal to negotiate before the FA date.

Two thumbs up! Way too many of these deals happening 5 minutes into FA and we're the only ones getting fined! Some of these destinations were reported and amounts before free agency even started, like Ty Jerome. Then somehow teams have negotiated sign and trades for players the receiving team could not have gotten without a S&T. Almost no team had significant free cap space.

Wait, why are people under the impression that non-Bulls teams don't get punished for tampering? Heck, the Kings themselves had the Bogdonovich trade unwound just a few seasons ago.

[Infinity2152]

Shroder signed with the kings which was reported 2 days ago. Now will the kings get fined and lose a draft pick like the bulls did for lonzo ? Or are the Bulls the only team to get punished ?

Same for Dallas/Russell and a few other signings who were technically illegal to negotiate before the FA date.

Two thumbs up! Way too many of these deals happening 5 minutes into FA and we're the only ones getting fined! Some of these destinations were reported and amounts before free agency even started, like Ty Jerome. Then somehow teams have negotiated sign and trades for players the receiving team could not have gotten without a S&T. Almost no team had significant free cap space.

Wait, why are people under the impression that non-Bulls teams don't get punished for tampering? Heck, the Kings themselves had the Bogdonovich trade unwound just a few seasons ago.

Naw, we just want to see the smoke, that's all. If I get a whooping for doing something, everybody in the room doing the same thing needs to get that whooping too, lmao!

[jStuNNa]

Why should doctors make more than janitors? Aren't they both important to running a hospital?

One job can be filled by an unskilled 15 year old. The other requires undergraduate school, graduate school, potential 100k+ in student loans, internship when you do graduate, then expensive malpractice insurance plus those loan repayments the rest of your career and a high skill level. Janitors are rarely sued or charged if they don't do their job correctly.

If I'm coming to the hospital bleeding out, don't give a damn if they have good janitors. Now good doctors on the other hand.

You're right, but trust me, you want good janitors too. Unless you don't mind a staph infection.