Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

Twinkie defense · Post #461 » by **Twinkie defense** » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:18 pm

statsman wrote:Can any other team *create* at least $25M in cap space for a RFA offer outside of the Nets?

I'm sure they *could*, right? Salary dump. But IDK why they *would* for Kuminga, especially when the Warriors could just match. Right?

Old_Blue · Post #462 » by **Old_Blue** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:49 am

Bayside wrote:I tried to go search but found nothing about kids. Truth is, I thought this last season I read something about him just having a kid. And it wasnt the first. Like number 4. I couldnt find anything, so I obviously conflated with someone else. Your trying to make some arguement that is ugly, and that is not cool.

Since you're currently posting online, it's safe to say that you also have access to that magical answer machine called Google. You couldn't have taken 30 seconds to confirm the smack you were posting about Kuminga? And, in not doing so, how were the rest of us to know that you were confused about who you were talking about? We aren't mind readers here.

Old_Blue · Post #463 » by **Old_Blue** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:51 am

whatisacenter wrote:Cam Johnson dream is over for some of you.

Meh. There's always the trade deadline...

Watch on YouTube

marthafokker · Post #464 » by **marthafokker** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 12:53 am

Old_Blue wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Cam Johnson dream is over for some of you.

Meh. There's always the trade deadline...

Watch on YouTube

Trade deadline... my dream is bigger. Greek Freak baby! :lol:

thunderdunk · Post #465 » by **thunderdunk** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:00 am

Looks like the Nets just added salary with Michael Porter Jr. Is JK's dream of a big payday slipping away?

Schmooftie · Post #466 » by **Schmooftie** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:10 am

thunderdunk wrote:Looks like the Nets just added salary with Michael Porter Jr. Is JK's dream of a big payday slipping away?

Seems that way. Reality is it's now sign and trade options only but with the compensation rules the Warriors can only take approximately back half his new salary.
So assuming he gets something in the $25-$30M range

For the Bulls they have Coby White at $12M, Williams at $18M, Huerter at $16M and Collins at $17M.
Can't see the Warriors would be interested in Williams, Huerter or Collins and doubt the Bulls would give up White.

The Heat don't really appear to have a contract to trade back in that range, unless they overpay and then looking at the Wiggins spot but why would the Warriors want him back.

New Orleans have Herb Jones at $13M, so unless they are trying to create a new version of the Warriors with Poole and Looney I'm not sure why they would want to pay Kuminga $26M over Jones at $13M.

I just don't see where he goes

Jester_ · Post #467 » by **Jester_** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:18 am

Schmooftie wrote:
thunderdunk wrote:Looks like the Nets just added salary with Michael Porter Jr. Is JK's dream of a big payday slipping away?

Seems that way. Reality is it's now sign and trade options only but with the compensation rules the Warriors can only take approximately back half his new salary.
So assuming he gets something in the $25-$30M range

For the Bulls they have Coby White at $12M, Williams at $18M, Huerter at $16M and Collins at $17M.
Can't see the Warriors would be interested in Williams, Huerter or Collins and doubt the Bulls would give up White.

The Heat don't really appear to have a contract to trade back in that range, unless they overpay and then looking at the Wiggins spot but why would the Warriors want him back.

New Orleans have Herb Jones at $13M, so unless they are trying to create a new version of the Warriors with Poole and Looney I'm not sure why they would want to pay Kuminga $26M over Jones at $13M.

I just don't see where he goes

Isn’t it the fully salary if we wait till trade deadline? I’m betting thats our move

HiRez · Post #468 » by **HiRez** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:24 am

Schmooftie wrote:
thunderdunk wrote:Looks like the Nets just added salary with Michael Porter Jr. Is JK's dream of a big payday slipping away?

Seems that way. Reality is it's now sign and trade options only but with the compensation rules the Warriors can only take approximately back half his new salary.
So assuming he gets something in the $25-$30M range

For the Bulls they have Coby White at $12M, Williams at $18M, Huerter at $16M and Collins at $17M.
Can't see the Warriors would be interested in Williams, Huerter or Collins and doubt the Bulls would give up White.

The Heat don't really appear to have a contract to trade back in that range, unless they overpay and then looking at the Wiggins spot but why would the Warriors want him back.

New Orleans have Herb Jones at $13M, so unless they are trying to create a new version of the Warriors with Poole and Looney I'm not sure why they would want to pay Kuminga $26M over Jones at $13M.

I just don't see where he goes

I'd offer Kuminga and 3 pick swaps to the Bulls for White, thinking that Chicago's FRPs are still going to be good for the foreseeable future. If necessary, maybe 1 protected FRP and 1 swap.

SpreeS · Post #469 » by **SpreeS** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:32 am

HiRez wrote:
Schmooftie wrote:
thunderdunk wrote:Looks like the Nets just added salary with Michael Porter Jr. Is JK's dream of a big payday slipping away?

Seems that way. Reality is it's now sign and trade options only but with the compensation rules the Warriors can only take approximately back half his new salary.
So assuming he gets something in the $25-$30M range

For the Bulls they have Coby White at $12M, Williams at $18M, Huerter at $16M and Collins at $17M.
Can't see the Warriors would be interested in Williams, Huerter or Collins and doubt the Bulls would give up White.

The Heat don't really appear to have a contract to trade back in that range, unless they overpay and then looking at the Wiggins spot but why would the Warriors want him back.

New Orleans have Herb Jones at $13M, so unless they are trying to create a new version of the Warriors with Poole and Looney I'm not sure why they would want to pay Kuminga $26M over Jones at $13M.

I just don't see where he goes

I'd offer Kuminga and 3 pick swaps to the Bulls for White, thinking that Chicago's FRPs are still going to be good for the foreseeable future. If necessary, maybe 1 protected FRP and 1 swap.

CHI has P.Williams, Buzelis, Okoro, Philips and Essengue. So why would they trade for another forward and especially for White?

Crazy-Canuck · Post #470 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:40 am

marthafokker wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Cam Johnson dream is over for some of you.

Meh. There's always the trade deadline...

Watch on YouTube

Trade deadline... my dream is bigger. Greek Freak baby!

I thought that was bjelli :lol:

Twinkie defense · Post #471 » by **Twinkie defense** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:37 pm

Offer him 3 years, $55 mil, with a third-year player option.

bay2hk · Post #472 » by **bay2hk** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:01 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:
statsman wrote:Can any other team *create* at least $25M in cap space for a RFA offer outside of the Nets?

I'm sure they *could*, right? Salary dump. But IDK why they *would* for Kuminga, especially when the Warriors could just match. Right?

Bucks did it with Lillard so it’s possible

bay2hk · Post #473 » by **bay2hk** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:04 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Offer him 3 years, $55 mil, with a third-year player option.

Yea pull the offer off the table by 7/6 when FA signing starts. Need to pressure JK to make a decision. This guy is not that good to be paid what he’s looking for. He should also fire his agent for malpractice

HiRez · Post #474 » by **HiRez** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:29 pm

SpreeS wrote:
HiRez wrote:
Schmooftie wrote:
Seems that way. Reality is it's now sign and trade options only but with the compensation rules the Warriors can only take approximately back half his new salary.
So assuming he gets something in the $25-$30M range

For the Bulls they have Coby White at $12M, Williams at $18M, Huerter at $16M and Collins at $17M.
Can't see the Warriors would be interested in Williams, Huerter or Collins and doubt the Bulls would give up White.

The Heat don't really appear to have a contract to trade back in that range, unless they overpay and then looking at the Wiggins spot but why would the Warriors want him back.

New Orleans have Herb Jones at $13M, so unless they are trying to create a new version of the Warriors with Poole and Looney I'm not sure why they would want to pay Kuminga $26M over Jones at $13M.

I just don't see where he goes

I'd offer Kuminga and 3 pick swaps to the Bulls for White, thinking that Chicago's FRPs are still going to be good for the foreseeable future. If necessary, maybe 1 protected FRP and 1 swap.

CHI has P.Williams, Buzelis, Okoro, Philips and Essengue. So why would they trade for another forward and especially for White?

Who knows? Why would Dallas trade Luka for a 32-year-old, often-injured center? The picks and/or swaps are the incentive, along with getting Kuminga, who they would obviously have to have an interest in. When it comes to a team like the Bulls, I don't consider disrupting some master plan of delicate roster construction to be a problem because they're a mess.

wco81 · Post #475 » by **wco81** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:54 pm

There are no teams with cap space to give JK a big contract but what's the delay?

If there was no other deal possible, including S&T, presumably JK would have signed the Warriors' offer by now.

So there must be a team or two talking to his agent about a S&T.

bay2hk · Post #476 » by **bay2hk** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:00 pm

wco81 wrote:There are no teams with cap space to give JK a big contract but what's the delay?

If there was no other deal possible, including S&T, presumably JK would have signed the Warriors' offer by now.

So there must be a team or two talking to his agent about a S&T.

The holdup is JK being in denial he’s a $15m a year player and not $30m. He’ll come around eventually

whatisacenter · Post #477 » by **whatisacenter** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:21 pm

bay2hk wrote:
wco81 wrote:There are no teams with cap space to give JK a big contract but what's the delay?

If there was no other deal possible, including S&T, presumably JK would have signed the Warriors' offer by now.

So there must be a team or two talking to his agent about a S&T.

The holdup is JK being in denial he’s a $15m a year player and not $30m. He’ll come around eventually

So what’s the plan from the warriors perspective?

Gum up their free agency by waiting out a player who doesn’t want to be here for a coach who doesn’t want him?

As currently constructed they will be the over the hill gang battling for a play-in spot.

Senchu · Post #478 » by **Senchu** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:21 pm

I think if JK can’t handle his market value he could take QO and hit free agency next year

Onus · Post #479 » by **Onus** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:24 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
bay2hk wrote:
wco81 wrote:There are no teams with cap space to give JK a big contract but what's the delay?

If there was no other deal possible, including S&T, presumably JK would have signed the Warriors' offer by now.

So there must be a team or two talking to his agent about a S&T.

The holdup is JK being in denial he’s a $15m a year player and not $30m. He’ll come around eventually

So what’s the plan from the warriors perspective?

Gum up their free agency by waiting out a player who doesn’t want to be here for a coach who doesn’t want him?

As currently constructed they will be the over the hill gang battling for a play-in spot.

I don't think there's any other teams that are willing to give him 30 either.

EvanZ · Post #480 » by **EvanZ** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:28 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
bay2hk wrote:
The holdup is JK being in denial he’s a $15m a year player and not $30m. He’ll come around eventually

So what’s the plan from the warriors perspective?

Gum up their free agency by waiting out a player who doesn’t want to be here for a coach who doesn’t want him?

As currently constructed they will be the over the hill gang battling for a play-in spot.

I don't think there's any other teams that are willing to give him 30 either.

Not sure teams want to give him $25M or even $20M at this point. I mean the writing was on the wall when you see the contracts Naz and Turner got. Why would anyone give Kuminga more than those guys or even close to their salaries?