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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#141 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:14 pm

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WargamesX wrote:And a cheap back up center.

Yabusele is a forward. He can shoot. He also plays backup center. :D

Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center


I’m okay with giving Hukporti a chance
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#142 » by WargamesX » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:15 pm

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BKlutch wrote:Yabusele is a forward. He can shoot. He also plays backup center. :D

Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center


He's a 4 who can play some 5.

He's not a 3, though the differences between 3 and 4 hardly exist anymore. But by skillset, he's more a 4.

He is a great 5 out power forward. Not really someone I would think as a starter but if the Knicks wanted to do 5 out for 20 minutes he would be great.

McBride
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Yabu

Is a very good bench. I think they can use a little more, because 82 games is 82 games but they definitely added depth. Yabu is MLE good, his sample size was just small because the Philly roster was in disarray & they benched him near the end of the year to tank. Which lowkey I think was when he decided to leave because he was trying to earn a bigger contract.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#143 » by WargamesX » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:16 pm

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BKlutch wrote:Yabusele is a forward. He can shoot. He also plays backup center. :D

Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center


I’m okay with giving Hukporti a chance

I’m not. If you look at his career before the NBA he is injury prone.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#144 » by BKlutch » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:16 pm

WargamesX wrote:
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WargamesX wrote:And a cheap back up center.

Yabusele is a forward. He can shoot. He also plays backup center. :D

Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center

THen we need to hope that Huk can defend well and that one of Dadiet or McCullers can self create and shoot. Because we're down to one vet min and a rookie signing (McCullers expected to sign for less than vet min)
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#145 » by WargamesX » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:17 pm

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BKlutch wrote:Yabusele is a forward. He can shoot. He also plays backup center. :D

Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center

THen we need to hope that Huk can defend well and that one of Dadiet or McCullers can self create and shoot. Because we're down to one vet min and a rookie signing (McCullers expected to sign for less than vet min)

Let’s see what the FO does. I keep saying this but that Wizard pick is there and its value might go down once the season starts.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#146 » by BKlutch » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:18 pm

WargamesX wrote:
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WargamesX wrote: Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center


I’m okay with giving Hukporti a chance

I’m not. If you look at his career before the NBA he is injury prone.

We can sign Nnaji to a 2 way if he's worth it, but we're scraping up against a hard cap.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#147 » by WargamesX » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:19 pm

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I’m okay with giving Hukporti a chance

I’m not. If you look at his career before the NBA he is injury prone.

We can sign Nnaji to a 2 way if he's worth it, but we're scraping up against a hard cap.


We can go over the hard cap to fill out roster spots and signing vet min/2nd round picks. They set it up there to ensure a team never had less than the minimum amount of players.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#148 » by BKlutch » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:19 pm

WargamesX wrote:
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WargamesX wrote: Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center

THen we need to hope that Huk can defend well and that one of Dadiet or McCullers can self create and shoot. Because we're down to one vet min and a rookie signing (McCullers expected to sign for less than vet min)

Let’s see what the FO does. I keep saying this but that Wizard pick is there and its value might go down once the season starts.

No team is perfectly constructed. We should be better than last year.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#149 » by eagle54 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:19 pm

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Re: Shams: Knicks sign Guerschon Yabusele 

Post#150 » by JayTWill » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:20 pm

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cgmw wrote:That's a weird way of seeing things. Other than trading either KAT or Brunson, what exactly are you proposing? What kind of players would "help" with the chemistry between them?

You already have defensive locks in OG and Mitch (and sometimes Mikal). IMO swapping out Thibs and his robotic reliance on iso-dribble drive rim attack should help more than anything.


Last year we had a bunch of small guards, bigs and limited playable wing depth and no natural playmakers/floor generals in the rotation. Somehow we have the same issue once again. When we were playing the Pacers and their pace and ball movement I wasn't thinking to myself that we need someone like Yabusele and Clarkson. I know beggars can't be choosers but did we really need a 4th big and another small guard?

And that Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/Mitch had a defensive rating of 122 with opponents shooting 44% from 3 and the Knicks having -5 net rating in the postseason. Anything is better than that original starting lineup but that small sample size wasn't really an indication that they solved the defensive issues. We had trouble pairing KAT and Brunson together defensively. It seems like we added a couple more guys that will be questionable fits on the defensive end with those two also but I admit never really paying attention to Yabusele's defense which is why asked the original question.

On offense Thibs is as basic as it gets but we also lacked sound decision/playmakers with the ball in their hands. Clarkson wasn't really the guy I imagine lifting the group up with many mouths to feed. He can do things with the ball in his hand but he also does it in a very sloppy inefficient way. He has some Jordan Poole in him.

So reading between the lines of your post (because I don't see a straightforward answer) -- you think a playmaking backup PG and another defensive backup Center would help the chemistry issues between KAT and Brunson? And you want it on the Vet Min/MLE? Can you see how that seems unlikely?


I wanted to address the wing depth and defense most of all and I was hoping another coach could improve the offense. We didn't address the wing depth and somehow may have gotten worse defensively. I doubt we can play Brunson and Clarkson together defensively. I'm still trying to figure out if we can play KAT and Yabusele together defensively.

I understand we have limited options but i'm just not sure what the plan is and how the pieces fit together. Having a talented starting 5 last year didn't have the impact many thought it would have and all of that wasn't on Thibs.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#151 » by WargamesX » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:20 pm

BKlutch wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
BKlutch wrote:THen we need to hope that Huk can defend well and that one of Dadiet or McCullers can self create and shoot. Because we're down to one vet min and a rookie signing (McCullers expected to sign for less than vet min)

Let’s see what the FO does. I keep saying this but that Wizard pick is there and its value might go down once the season starts.

No team is perfectly constructed. We should be better than last year.

It’s not about being perfect it’s about trying to ensure we win a chip. No reason to stop if there is ways to finesse more talent.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#152 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:20 pm

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WargamesX wrote:
BKlutch wrote:Yabusele is a forward. He can shoot. He also plays backup center. :D

Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center

THen we need to hope that Huk can defend well and that one of Dadiet or McCullers can self create and shoot. Because we're down to one vet min and a rookie signing (McCullers expected to sign for less than vet min)[/quote]

This was reported?
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#153 » by BKlutch » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:21 pm

WargamesX wrote:
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WargamesX wrote:I’m not. If you look at his career before the NBA he is injury prone.

We can sign Nnaji to a 2 way if he's worth it, but we're scraping up against a hard cap.


We can go over the hard cap to fill out roster spots and signing vet min/2nd round picks. They set it up there to ensure a team never had less than the minimum amount of players.

I'm not aware of a great defensive FA big available at that level, so let's hope Nnaji could be useful at that last position. I still think we're way ahead of last year and we can reduce starter minutes, playing the bench, and still reach the playoffs in good shape.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#154 » by Fat Kat » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:32 pm

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BKlutch wrote:Yabusele is a forward. He can shoot. He also plays backup center. :D

Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center


I’m okay with giving Hukporti a chance


Mitch is the back up center. He needs to play 20 - 25 minutes a game max. Huk is the emergency center. He’ll get plenty of playing time once Mitch has his annual injury. Deuce should start and Mitch should be treated with kid gloves.
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Post#155 » by BKlutch » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:32 pm

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WargamesX wrote: Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center

THen we need to hope that Huk can defend well and that one of Dadiet or McCullers can self create and shoot. Because we're down to one vet min and a rookie signing (McCullers expected to sign for less than vet min)


This was reported?[/quote]
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Post#156 » by BKlutch » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:35 pm

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WargamesX wrote: Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center


I’m okay with giving Hukporti a chance


Mitch is the back up emergency room center. He needs to play 20 - 25 minutes a game max. Huk is the emergency center. He’ll get plenty of playing time once Mitch has his annual injury. Deuce should start and Mitch should be treated with kid gloves.
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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#157 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:36 pm

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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#158 » by Fat Kat » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:37 pm

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WargamesX wrote: Let me clarify, a forward who can self create and shoot and a defensive backup center

THen we need to hope that Huk can defend well and that one of Dadiet or McCullers can self create and shoot. Because we're down to one vet min and a rookie signing (McCullers expected to sign for less than vet min)


This was reported?[/quote]

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Re: Shams: Knicks, Guerschon Yabusele agree to deal 

Post#160 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:42 pm

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BKlutch wrote:

THen we need to hope that Huk can defend well and that one of Dadiet or McCullers can self create and shoot. Because we're down to one vet min and a rookie signing (McCullers expected to sign for less than vet min)


This was reported?


The minimum for a player with 1 or fewer years experience is 2.048M as opposed to the 2.5M for players with 2 or more years experience[/quote]

There's no cap hold magic involved with mini deals? I know Tucker was due 3.5 but his cap hold was only 2.2 ish
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