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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#121 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:24 pm

DelAbbot wrote:Can't wait to see 3 non-shooters on the court at all times


which 3 non shooters would they play together?
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#122 » by Merit » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:27 pm

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kawhi value was at the lowest. raptors were the only ones taking that risk. celtics and sixers jumped off. and the spurs went to the raptors and got that deal done. mysterious kawhi injury and the fact that it was known that he goes to LA... its a bad example. that noise around kawhi tanked his value. and it was surprisingly cheap with demar and jak.


And so was demars. This was after he completely choked vs the cavs and got benched by casey. Point is we still traded a player with "0 value" for a championship



yupp, true. but for most of those posters here, it was still considered a risk. i think in 9 out of 10 scenarios this wouldnt worked out that well. neither for us nor for kawhi.


But it did work out well. And that’s the point. People alleging our players have no value have consistently been wrong.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#123 » by Mattatron » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:27 pm

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They also thought you couldn’t get anything for Bruce or Kelly bc Kelly was washed and we waited too long to move Bruce. Then we got freaking BI for both. I’ve learned to ignore most of the complainers and negative ppl on this board lol. They just love to hear themselves type lol. Supposedly everyone else’s players have value and are good and anybody who plays for the Raptors is trash and has no value and Bobby has no clue what he’s doing ever lol



this board overrates casual scorers like they are some mvp calibre hall of famer players lmaoooo

bruce and kelly was salary match for ingram.. no one was interested in this guy. and u act like we got the second coming of t-mac. dude didnt even played one game so far and i doubt he will reach 50 games with us.


I can’t wait for you to realize how far off your player evaluation is. Until then, I’ll wait for the season. It’s gonna be a good one.

Put it this way: I’d rather have BI for expiring contracts and 1 first than bane for 4 firsts+



you really cant compare the magic situation with ours.
i think the magic, who are much further in their development are happy about their acquisition. is it a bit overpriced ? sure. but they can live with it. they have lot of blue chips to receive assets again if they wanna.

the raptors on the other hand, traded their 3rd or 4th frp within 4 years who doesnt fit the team/construction instead of rebuilding properly.
raps hand out their best players like some candy to everyone. our standards have dropped so much that some see players like rj and ingram as saviours.

thats just a weird comp...id rather have the magic roster.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#124 » by Merit » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:28 pm

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this board overrates casual scorers like they are some mvp calibre hall of famer players lmaoooo

bruce and kelly was salary match for ingram.. no one was interested in this guy. and u act like we got the second coming of t-mac. dude didnt even played one game so far and i doubt he will reach 50 games with us.


I can’t wait for you to realize how far off your player evaluation is. Until then, I’ll wait for the season. It’s gonna be a good one.

Put it this way: I’d rather have BI for expiring contracts and 1 first than bane for 4 firsts+



you really cant compare the magic situation with ours.
i think the magic, who are much further in their development are happy about their acquisition. is it a bit overpriced ? sure. but they can live with it. they have lot of blue chips to receive assets again if they wanna.

the raptors on the other hand, traded their 3rd or 4th frp within 4 years who doesnt fit the team/construction instead of rebuilding properly.
raps hand out their best players like some candy to everyone. our standards have dropped so much that some see players like rj and ingram as saviours.

thats just a weird comp...id rather have the magic roster.


I’m not comparing rosters or teams. I’m comparing trade value. The BI trade was solid value.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#125 » by HoopAndTheHarm » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:29 pm

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hyper316 wrote:Poeltl improved his ft shooting last year, if he can add a summer 3, watch out


Scottie being on 1st team all NBA is higher than this happening


Poeltl is a 42,9% career shooter from 3.


:lol: Nice. He's taken 7 attempts in his career.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#126 » by niQ » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:30 pm

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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#127 » by aj174 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:32 pm

Good deal, but we need shooting in our lineup, and a stretch big is pretty essential with Scottie. Hopefully the positives outweigh the benefits in this case
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#128 » by Mattatron » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:35 pm

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I can’t wait for you to realize how far off your player evaluation is. Until then, I’ll wait for the season. It’s gonna be a good one.

Put it this way: I’d rather have BI for expiring contracts and 1 first than bane for 4 firsts+



you really cant compare the magic situation with ours.
i think the magic, who are much further in their development are happy about their acquisition. is it a bit overpriced ? sure. but they can live with it. they have lot of blue chips to receive assets again if they wanna.

the raptors on the other hand, traded their 3rd or 4th frp within 4 years who doesnt fit the team/construction instead of rebuilding properly.
raps hand out their best players like some candy to everyone. our standards have dropped so much that some see players like rj and ingram as saviours.

thats just a weird comp...id rather have the magic roster.


I’m not comparing rosters or teams. I’m comparing trade value. The BI trade was solid value.



you are comparing the cost of both trades, ingram had 3 months left, bane on the other hand is under contract for 3/4 more years.

it was solid before hali torned his achilles and turner left the pacers. but it was also redundant. there was no need for a trade like this. everyone around the league said this. most raptors stans are just....delusional
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#129 » by Tripod » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:36 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:I don't think Gafford is a great comparable. Gafford played 20 minutes last year and has never been above 24 in his career, while Poeltl averaged just under 30 mins last season. Poeltl is a legit 28-30 minute starting C.

Yeah Gaford is a good backup....Yak a good starter.

That costs more
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#130 » by Kingsway_fan » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:36 pm

Solid, deep young team and we have all of our picks... balance isn't perfect but time to work that while we see what we have...
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#131 » by Merit » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:37 pm

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you really cant compare the magic situation with ours.
i think the magic, who are much further in their development are happy about their acquisition. is it a bit overpriced ? sure. but they can live with it. they have lot of blue chips to receive assets again if they wanna.

the raptors on the other hand, traded their 3rd or 4th frp within 4 years who doesnt fit the team/construction instead of rebuilding properly.
raps hand out their best players like some candy to everyone. our standards have dropped so much that some see players like rj and ingram as saviours.

thats just a weird comp...id rather have the magic roster.


I’m not comparing rosters or teams. I’m comparing trade value. The BI trade was solid value.



you are comparing the cost of both trades, ingram had 3 months left, bane on the other hand is under contract for 3/4 more years.

it was solid before hali torned his achilles and turner left the pacers. but it was also redundant. there was no need for a trade like this. everyone around the league said this. most raptors stans are just....delusional


Bro this is a trade we won. Instead of crapping on it, try actually being a fan.

BI is under contract for 3 more years.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#132 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:38 pm

Tripod wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:I don't think Gafford is a great comparable. Gafford played 20 minutes last year and has never been above 24 in his career, while Poeltl averaged just under 30 mins last season. Poeltl is a legit 28-30 minute starting C.

Yeah Gaford is a good backup....Yak a good starter.

That costs more


yup, Gafford only started about half of the time with DAL
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#133 » by TimeForChange » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:39 pm

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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#134 » by nivisi9 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:39 pm

Is the talk about him potentially developing a 3 legit in anyway? or unlikely

That could turn Poeltl into a legit elite center as he's pretty high impact and all other areas that are underrated.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#135 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:41 pm

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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#136 » by Shakril » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:42 pm

nivisi9 wrote:Is the talk about him potentially developing a 3 legit in anyway? or unlikely

That could turn Poeltl into a legit elite center as he's pretty high impact and all other areas that are underrated.


Ask Darko. Last season he drew up a play for him to shoot a three. But that was just once so who knows.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#137 » by ItsDanger » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:42 pm

nivisi9 wrote:Is the talk about him potentially developing a 3 legit in anyway? or unlikely

That could turn Poeltl into a legit elite center as he's pretty high impact and all other areas that are underrated.

At 30 years old, players are finished products. He hasn't developed it now, he never will. Look at his awful FT%, that is correlated to 3 pt%.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#138 » by Merit » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:42 pm

aj174 wrote:Good deal, but we need shooting in our lineup, and a stretch big is pretty essential with Scottie. Hopefully the positives outweigh the benefits in this case


I am hoping that Scottie improves his shooting. I feel there’s a good chance he does.
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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#139 » by NinjaBro » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:44 pm

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Re: Shams: Poeltl Extended (4yrs/$104M) 

Post#140 » by mack_435 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:45 pm

Can someone explain to me how CMB, Barnes, and Poetlt are suppose to play together? No contending team is running a big rotation like this. This roster won't sniff the 2nd round the next 3 years.

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