[Shams] Myles Turner signs with the Bucks (4-year, $107 million)

[Indomitable]

Man - Bucks fans are in real denial.

In denial by keeping their top two player. At least one more season. Nobody desires a rebuild

[YogurtProducer]

Scottie is awful, he’s not even a developing 2nd option. Dick is a C tier prospect. #9 turned into a pick that Raps fans are already questioning lmao this is a garbage rebuild package

And yet, it would be better for the Bucks future than wasting Giannis' tail of his prime.

And again, I said right in the post you could get a better deal from other teams. Read my whole post.

Why is not winning a Championship considered a failure? Do all teams but 1 fail every year?

I think the Bucks winning some playoff series would be more than enough to justify keeping Giannis from a basketball and business perspective

I never considered not winning a championship a failure - but year over year there should be some realistic path you can see that could be made to make it a true contender.

As it stands now MIL is an old team, with very little in the picks department, that is capped out, with only 2 NBA caliber starting players, etc. There is really no avenues to monumental improvement.

MIL is not even a top 4 team in the East. There is no guarantee or even reasonable expectation they will "win playoff series'"

Y'all just finished the season as a #5 seed, and got 4-1'd by Indiana, and debateably got worse.

[SirChurros]

He's not going to rot in MIL.

This is a desperation move and no I don't want Giannis on the Sixers or think they can trade for him. I am just reading the writing on the wall

He’s leaving bro trust me lmao sure Jan

Giannis is the one star player I could see not leaving, but that isn't the point.

The point is the Bucks roster is horrible, they have no way to improve it, they arguably got worse since last season, and their only remaining move is to rip off the bandaid.

Sure - give this giannis + turner + g-leaguers strategy a go; but my guess is you are at best a .500 team and Giannis (and maybe Turner to) are on a different team at this time next year. Maybe even by the deadline.

Please explain to me how it got worse.

[GiannisAnte34]

Giannis is the one star player I could see not leaving, but that isn't the point.

The point is the Bucks roster is horrible, they have no way to improve it, they arguably got worse since last season, and their only remaining move is to rip off the bandaid.

Sure - give this giannis + turner + g-leaguers strategy a go; but my guess is you are at best a .500 team and Giannis (and maybe Turner to) are on a different team at this time next year. Maybe even by the deadline.

Sure bud enjoy the Raps with their rebuild for the next 5+ years

Why can't you just stay on topic and discuss the Bucks? What does Toronto have to do with this?

The topic is keeping Giannis instead of praying that somehow Scottie Barnes, Dick, CMB, and middling 1sts turn into a competitive team. That’s Raps fans right now and pretty sure they aren’t loving it

[GiannisAnte34]

And yet, it would be better for the Bucks future than wasting Giannis' tail of his prime.

And again, I said right in the post you could get a better deal from other teams. Read my whole post.

Why is not winning a Championship considered a failure? Do all teams but 1 fail every year?

I think the Bucks winning some playoff series would be more than enough to justify keeping Giannis from a basketball and business perspective

I never considered not winning a championship a failure - but year over year there should be some realistic path you can see that could be made to make it a true contender.

As it stands now MIL is an old team, with very little in the picks department, that is capped out, with only 2 NBA caliber starting players, etc. There is really no avenues to monumental improvement.

MIL is not even a top 4 team in the East. There is no guarantee or even reasonable expectation they will "win playoff series'"

Y'all just finished the season as a #5 seed, and got 4-1'd by Indiana, and debateably got worse.

Old team? The vast majority of their rotation is in their 20s

[JHFVF07]

Guys the last time the Bucks had a player as good(better than) as Gianis was KAJ, and they are a lucky franchise, ask Denver when they had a guy as good as Jokic.

When you have this kind of talent you have to keep it and try to win no matter what. If/When Gianis leave, u can easily spend another 50 years without a player of that calibre.

The East will be up for grabs and they have a MVP playing for them, good work Bucks.

[YogurtProducer]

He’s leaving bro trust me lmao sure Jan

Giannis is the one star player I could see not leaving, but that isn't the point.

The point is the Bucks roster is horrible, they have no way to improve it, they arguably got worse since last season, and their only remaining move is to rip off the bandaid.

Sure - give this giannis + turner + g-leaguers strategy a go; but my guess is you are at best a .500 team and Giannis (and maybe Turner to) are on a different team at this time next year. Maybe even by the deadline.

Please explain to me how it got worse.

Well, Dame was a 25ppg guy on 62TS% and Lopez was still a solid center. Now they're both gone, and all you have is Turner.

Now you have a superstar in Giannis, and a role player in Turner. After that, you have no one that should even be starting on a serious team, and absoluetly no one to provide offence outside of praying that Kevin Porter Jr somehow figures it out.

[YogurtProducer]

Why is not winning a Championship considered a failure? Do all teams but 1 fail every year?

I think the Bucks winning some playoff series would be more than enough to justify keeping Giannis from a basketball and business perspective

I never considered not winning a championship a failure - but year over year there should be some realistic path you can see that could be made to make it a true contender.

As it stands now MIL is an old team, with very little in the picks department, that is capped out, with only 2 NBA caliber starting players, etc. There is really no avenues to monumental improvement.

MIL is not even a top 4 team in the East. There is no guarantee or even reasonable expectation they will "win playoff series'"

Y'all just finished the season as a #5 seed, and got 4-1'd by Indiana, and debateably got worse.

Old team? The vast majority of their rotation is in their 20s

Come on man.

Giannis is 31. Portis is 30. Prince is 31. Kuzma is 30. Your youngest rotation guy is 25 year old KPJ. You have no room left for internal improvement. Your guys for the most part are what they are.

The vast majority of your rotation is NOT in their 20s, and the ones that are are between 25-28. So not young.

[SirChurros]

Giannis is the one star player I could see not leaving, but that isn't the point.

The point is the Bucks roster is horrible, they have no way to improve it, they arguably got worse since last season, and their only remaining move is to rip off the bandaid.

Sure - give this giannis + turner + g-leaguers strategy a go; but my guess is you are at best a .500 team and Giannis (and maybe Turner to) are on a different team at this time next year. Maybe even by the deadline.

Please explain to me how it got worse.

Well, Dame was a 25ppg guy on 62TS% and Lopez was still a solid center. Now they're both gone, and all you have is Turner.

Now you have a superstar in Giannis, and a role player in Turner. After that, you have no one that should even be starting on a serious team, and absoluetly no one to provide offence outside of praying that Kevin Porter Jr somehow figures it out.

Damian Lillard is about to turn 35 and just had DVT followed by an Achilles tear. Pretending like he’s going to play this season, or ever going to be close to the same player, is delusional.

Brook Lopez is 37 and couldn’t play in the playoffs against half of the league because he can only play drop.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

[YogurtProducer]

Please explain to me how it got worse.

Well, Dame was a 25ppg guy on 62TS% and Lopez was still a solid center. Now they're both gone, and all you have is Turner.

Now you have a superstar in Giannis, and a role player in Turner. After that, you have no one that should even be starting on a serious team, and absoluetly no one to provide offence outside of praying that Kevin Porter Jr somehow figures it out.

Damian Lillard is about to turn 35 and just had DVT followed by an Achilles tear. Pretending like he’s going to play this season, or ever going to be close to the same player, is delusional.

Brook Lopez is 37 and couldn’t play in the playoffs against half of the league because he can only play drop.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

I was talking about from last year to this year. Last time I checked, Dame was healthy to begin last season.

I wasn't saying bring Dame back. I was saying the 2026 Bucks are gonna be worse than the 2025 Bucks.

[YogurtProducer]

Sure bud enjoy the Raps with their rebuild for the next 5+ years

Why can't you just stay on topic and discuss the Bucks? What does Toronto have to do with this?

The topic is keeping Giannis instead of praying that somehow Scottie Barnes, Dick, CMB, and middling 1sts turn into a competitive team. That’s Raps fans right now and pretty sure they aren’t loving it

I am taking the Raps roster + picks over MIL's anyday of the week.

The Raptors have the ability to at least make moves, tank, trade, etc. and could make improvements.

The Bucks... don't. (unless they rip off the bandaid and move Giannis).

[SirChurros]

Well, Dame was a 25ppg guy on 62TS% and Lopez was still a solid center. Now they're both gone, and all you have is Turner.

Now you have a superstar in Giannis, and a role player in Turner. After that, you have no one that should even be starting on a serious team, and absoluetly no one to provide offence outside of praying that Kevin Porter Jr somehow figures it out.

Damian Lillard is about to turn 35 and just had DVT followed by an Achilles tear. Pretending like he’s going to play this season, or ever going to be close to the same player, is delusional.

Brook Lopez is 37 and couldn’t play in the playoffs against half of the league because he can only play drop.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

I was talking about from last year to this year. Last time I checked, Dame was healthy to begin last season.

I wasn't saying bring Dame back. I was saying the 2026 Bucks are gonna be worse than the 2025 Bucks.

So, you’re choosing to conveniently ignore a potential career-ending injury for your argument’s sake?

There is no point comparing the roster to the start of last season considering Dame isn’t going to play this season.

[flow]

Which games was it evident that Turner can’t defend in the playoffs?

Start with the Knicks series. Whenever Mitchell Robinson was on the floor.

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I agree Towns looked good against Turner but Mitchell Robinson is in the game purely to rebound and defend. Other than that, Robinson was a negative for the Knicks so I don’t see your point

Part of defending your position as a center is keeping your man off the offensive glass. Turner offered no resistence to Robinson whatsoever. Robinson treated him like a nat. There's a reason why Tony Bradley started getting into games.


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[YogurtProducer]

Damian Lillard is about to turn 35 and just had DVT followed by an Achilles tear. Pretending like he’s going to play this season, or ever going to be close to the same player, is delusional.

Brook Lopez is 37 and couldn’t play in the playoffs against half of the league because he can only play drop.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

I was talking about from last year to this year. Last time I checked, Dame was healthy to begin last season.

I wasn't saying bring Dame back. I was saying the 2026 Bucks are gonna be worse than the 2025 Bucks.

So, you’re choosing to conveniently ignore a potential career-ending injury for your argument’s sake?

There is no point comparing the roster to the start of last season considering Dame isn’t going to play this season.

Because that is not at all relevant to my point? My entire point was that the Bucks for 2025/26 are worse than the Bucks of 2024/25. That is it. Nothing more than that.

And yes - we CAN compare the rosters because the 2024/25 Bucks were not even a HCA team. And now they mortgaged more of their future DESPITE GETTING WORSE.

[LakersLegacy]

Giannis will have to deal with his team not having a good player, but having to pay $22,000,000 for his prime ate age 30

Giannis will have to deal with his team not having a good player, but having to pay $22,000,000 for his prime ate age 31

Giannis will have to deal with his team not having a good player, but having to pay $22,000,000 for his prime ate age 32

Giannis will have to deal with his team not having a good player, but having to pay $22,000,000 for his prime ate age 33

Giannis will have to deal with his team not having a good player, but having to pay $22,000,000 for his prime ate age 34

if he stays with the Bucks.

No team has ever won a championship with that amount of the roster construction being burned instead of used on another starter

[HMFFL]

Nice job by Myles Turner to leave.
The Pacers have been shopping Myles around for years. This contract is good value for him and I expect his game to flourish with the Bucks.

[Letsgokings]

I'll just say this. The least impressive player from Indianas run this year was Myles turner, just saying.

[Nuntius]

Start with the Knicks series. Whenever Mitchell Robinson was on the floor.

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I agree Towns looked good against Turner but Mitchell Robinson is in the game purely to rebound and defend. Other than that, Robinson was a negative for the Knicks so I don’t see your point

Part of defending your position as a center is keeping your man off the offensive glass. Turner offered no resistence to Robinson whatsoever. Robinson treated him like a nat.

Sure. But then we scored a ton of fast break points because you couldn't get back on defense with both Robinson and Towns on the court. Offensive rebounding and transition defense are a push and pull and, ultimately, our transition offense limited the effectiveness of your offensive rebounding.

There's a reason why Tony Bradley started started getting into games.

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The reason was that Thomas Bryant dislocated his finger.

[GiannisAnte34]

I'll just say this. The least impressive player from Indianas run this year was Myles turner, just saying.

38% from 3, 50% from the floor, and positive defender / shot blocker is the least impressive player? Must be an amazing team

[Pacernation]

Holy hell, never expected that. I knew it would be some hard negotiations because Tyrese is out for the season and Myles sucked in the Finals but I thought they would come to terms. This sucks on a lot of levels but I can understand the FO to not go into the tax for next season. I was never the biggest Myles fan but he was a Pacer for so long and his floorspacing was really valuable for us. We got no C under contract now besides Ijax who comes of a torn achilles so it's pretty much Ayton or bust and I don't even like the guy. Going from a final appearance to this sucks but this is the new cba and being a pacersfan. We don't have Balmer as an owner so it is what it is.. without another C signing we're probably a playinteam which would be pretty disappointing. I hope Rick takes this as a developementseason..