Shams: Jordan Clarkson expected to sign with Knicks

SamBridges · Post #161 » by **SamBridges** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:25 pm

the fan base will sour on him two months into the season

MrDollarBills · Post #162 » by **MrDollarBills** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:49 pm

The Filipino Flash is in the building.

MrDollarBills · Post #163 » by **MrDollarBills** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:51 pm

Clarkson is a highly flawed player but we need someone off the bench that can get hot and go off, and he's that kinda guy. Just make sure never to have him and Brunson together at the same time.

KnicksGadfly · Post #164 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:19 pm

Enzo954 wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Pr0nzingis wrote:
U rest your case on what? U not being bright enough to understand the difference between a 10 second clip and a full game?

Nope, the fact is, #1, that game was awful. Clarkson was bad and was chucking, and it's nothing new from him. That's been his past few seasons. And we know when he's not hitting shots, he's not contributing anything else. And we know he wasn't hitting many shots these past seasons either.

#2, you tried to pump up Clarkson by bringing up Josh Hart and saying you could make a reel of Hart sucking. Not sure what your point was there. Hart is so much better than Clarkson, it's ridiculous. If Hart was on the market, he would not need to get a minimum. Or get bought out the Jazz of all teams. The Jazz were giving away Sexton for a 2nd. They would have got rid of this guy via trade if they could.

#3, someone keeps trying to pump up Clarkson by bringing up his 29 year old 6MOY...in 2021. That's like bringing up Brook Lopez's former DPOY, except Brook Lopez didn't need to rely upon those DPOYs to prove he can still contribute to winning basketball or earn a nice paycheck as he ages.

#4, assuming you need to resort to personal attacks cause your arguments for Clarkson suck

He's a minimum player whose main ability is to take (not make) shots, and if he starts chucking, I hope the Knicks cut him immediately.

He has the most bench points out of any player since 2020 and we desperately need bench scoring. You keep trashing the hell out of this guy, but you still haven't answered my previous question. Who are the better players for this team that were willing to come here for the vet minimum? I'm not saying the guy's a superstar, but most experts agree that this was a good signing considering our financial restraints.

Well, there's two answers to this one.

1) We have no idea yet. FA isn't over...players slip through. Clarkson isn't some coup. Off the top of my head, Tre Mann is around. Westbrook is around. Lonnie Walker is around. Brogdon is injury prone but I'd still take him over Clarkson. Monte Morris. Last year, guys like Gary Trent and Tyus Jones slipped through.

You might argue that none of those guys are the same level of scorer as Clarkson but inefficient volume scoring (oops I mean, ability to take and miss a lot of shots) really doesn't impress me. 6MOYs from a 29-year old 2021 campaign don't impress me anymore. We have actual scorers on this team that can put up points when given shots for real.

2) Clarkson is the type of player who can also be a net negative, someone who we should not be giving minutes to, at all. There's also a possibility that he's the same dude he was in Utah and we should just cut him.

I don't mind the minimum contract because hopefully we can cut him but I'm not going to pretend he's some world beater.

Knicks218 · Post #165 » by **Knicks218** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:21 pm

The New York French Villanova Knicks

ctorres · Post #166 » by **ctorres** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:27 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:He's not a playmaker. He's a chuck on bad teams. We have limited funds and still need a backup PG/Wing/C. Now we have less to spend. Hoping one of the kids can pass him up because if they can't, we are not improving with this move.

his overall shot chart doesn't look bad for last season though

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/shot-chart-jordan-clarkson-last-season

Clarkson is lethal shooting threes from the top of the key, and at least average from each wing. He compliments Mikal really well here because these are all areas that Mikal was weak from comparatively.

should have shot way more from the corners but didn't for whatever reason

he is great in the paint outside the hoop, but not so great under the hoop. Mikal is lethal from all over the mid-range and paint no matter where it's at

Avoids long range twos. It's either threes or short two's for Clarkson

Yabu kinda fills a need at wing and C. He basically replaces Achiuwa. Yabu allows Josh and OG to shift to SF and not have to play as many minutes at the 4

ctorres · Post #167 » by **ctorres** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:39 pm

St Knick wrote:i keep hearing about Cole Anthony rumors getting bought out (traded?) by the Grizz. Is he a possible target for us as well?

i didn't watch the NBA TV broadcast, but apparently his dad Greg Anthony suggested that Cole Anthony could be going to the Knicks after getting bought out

only thing about Cole is that he seems to have a very similar mindset to Clarkson, except he's not as good of a scorer and he's shorter

I assume that Cole probably dreams of also being a Knick at least one time in his career since his dad was one during the peak Ewing years, so Cole might join the Knicks even if he would have to fight for a spot in the rotation

Polk377 · Post #168 » by **Polk377** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:45 pm

Knicks218 wrote:The New York French Villanova Knicks

Sources say Evan Fournier wants back in

Post #169 » by **DOT** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:51 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Clarkson is a highly flawed player but we need someone off the bench that can get hot and go off, and he's that kinda guy. Just make sure never to have him and Brunson together at the same time.

There's a reason he was available for the vet min

But for the vet min, he's a good value.

RHODEY · Post #170 » by **RHODEY** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:31 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Agree to agree. My textbook overreacting to moves I don't like has peaked. I'm over it. I really wasn't feeling it but, what can you do?
I give us a 60% chance of warming up to dude in Mike Browns system.

I’ll punch a wall if the hornets buy out Sexton tomorrow though.

Yes that is one Knuckhead I wouldnt mind coming off of our bench.

vallen · Post #171 » by **vallen** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:03 am

SamBridges wrote:the fan base will sour on him two months into the season

Funny how that happens, yet they be screaming "fire the coach" when he didnt play a bum ass like Frank Nikiwhatever. Frankfooters fall back.

KnicksIn5 · Post #172 » by **KnicksIn5** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:07 am

Good pickup. Offensive microwave off the bench.

Jonathan2347 · Post #173 » by **Jonathan2347** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:16 am

How can we lock in Dame? Let him rehab in NY and come off the bench next year.

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Pr0nzingis · Post #174 » by **Pr0nzingis** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:48 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:
Pr0nzingis wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Lmao is this the game where he was chucking and Mike Breen called him out? I rest my case.

U rest your case on what? U not being bright enough to understand the difference between a 10 second clip and a full game?

Nope, the fact is, #1, that game was awful. Clarkson was bad and was chucking, and it's nothing new from him. That's been his past few seasons. And we know when he's not hitting shots, he's not contributing anything else. And we know he wasn't hitting many shots these past seasons either.

#2, you tried to pump up Clarkson by bringing up Josh Hart and saying you could make a reel of Hart sucking. Not sure what your point was there. Hart is so much better than Clarkson, it's ridiculous. If Hart was on the market, he would not need to get a minimum. Or get bought out the Jazz of all teams. The Jazz were giving away Sexton for a 2nd. They would have got rid of this guy via trade if they could.

#3, someone keeps trying to pump up Clarkson by bringing up his 29 year old 6MOY...in 2021. That's like bringing up Brook Lopez's former DPOY, except Brook Lopez didn't need to rely upon those DPOYs to prove he can still contribute to winning basketball or earn a nice paycheck as he ages.

#4, assuming you need to resort to personal attacks cause your arguments for Clarkson suck

He's a minimum player whose main ability is to take (not make) shots, and if he starts chucking, I hope the Knicks cut him immediately.

If by personal attacks u mean stating the obvious, ok sure, and my point was incredibly obvious.

Lets play a game... who said this?

"A player can be bad at one price and good at another." "I dunno if Ayton would want to be here though."

Surely not the guy that is hating on the guy that consistently has been one of the best scorers in the NBA from the bench in the last years signing with the Knicks for the vet minimum, right? Theres no chance.

The Lamma · Post #175 » by **The Lamma** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:17 am

Capn'O wrote:
Gravy wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:No I’m not how can I make up those metrics

I cant remember the last time I watched a full game with Ayton in it. I have zero opinions on him except what I see posted here

Watch on YouTube

This vid belongs in this thread as well :lol:

Good six word summary of Clarkson

KnicksGadfly · Post #176 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:20 am

Pr0nzingis wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Pr0nzingis wrote:
U rest your case on what? U not being bright enough to understand the difference between a 10 second clip and a full game?

Nope, the fact is, #1, that game was awful. Clarkson was bad and was chucking, and it's nothing new from him. That's been his past few seasons. And we know when he's not hitting shots, he's not contributing anything else. And we know he wasn't hitting many shots these past seasons either.

#2, you tried to pump up Clarkson by bringing up Josh Hart and saying you could make a reel of Hart sucking. Not sure what your point was there. Hart is so much better than Clarkson, it's ridiculous. If Hart was on the market, he would not need to get a minimum. Or get bought out the Jazz of all teams. The Jazz were giving away Sexton for a 2nd. They would have got rid of this guy via trade if they could.

#3, someone keeps trying to pump up Clarkson by bringing up his 29 year old 6MOY...in 2021. That's like bringing up Brook Lopez's former DPOY, except Brook Lopez didn't need to rely upon those DPOYs to prove he can still contribute to winning basketball or earn a nice paycheck as he ages.

#4, assuming you need to resort to personal attacks cause your arguments for Clarkson suck

He's a minimum player whose main ability is to take (not make) shots, and if he starts chucking, I hope the Knicks cut him immediately.

If by personal attacks u mean stating the obvious, ok sure, and my point was incredibly obvious.

Lets play a game... who said this?

"A player can be bad at one price and good at another." "I dunno if Ayton would want to be here though."

Surely not the guy that is hating on the guy that consistently has been one of the best scorers in the NBA from the bench in the last years signing with the Knicks for the vet minimum, right? Theres no chance.

I don't know about your Ayton point and what you mean here, but I would rather have Ayton than Clarkson, no problem. I would 100% bring Ayton on this team over Clarkson and give him all of Clarkson's shots. Feel free to elaborate.

Now about Clarkson, he's the type of player who can be a negative, which is why he's on that minimum contract. Can't play defense, not particularly good at putting the ball in the hoop when he chucks, a pretty big turnover machine. If he's not hitting his shots, which happens a lot, what is he actually doing? Even when he's on a minimum contract, there's a chance he turns out to be trash.

You keep calling him one of the best scorers in the NBA from the bench, and you all just keep referencing his totals...that shat would have flown maybe 20, 30 years ago. when Isiah Thomas was thirsting after dudes like Mo Taylor and Antoine Walker. He's not one of the best scorers from the bench...he's very good at putting up and missing a ton of shots though. That's why he's on a minimum.

tugs · Post #177 » by **tugs** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:29 am

Knicks should be praying for the Lakers version of JC with the Jazz range. That Clarkson was lethal in the midrange and potent in the PnR. He should be able to work nicely with Mitch, Yabusale, and Precious

8516knicks · Post #178 » by **8516knicks** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:39 am

Will Clarkson plays some with JB and will that open the offense by having another shot creator?

Pr0nzingis · Post #179 » by **Pr0nzingis** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:43 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:
Pr0nzingis wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Nope, the fact is, #1, that game was awful. Clarkson was bad and was chucking, and it's nothing new from him. That's been his past few seasons. And we know when he's not hitting shots, he's not contributing anything else. And we know he wasn't hitting many shots these past seasons either.

#2, you tried to pump up Clarkson by bringing up Josh Hart and saying you could make a reel of Hart sucking. Not sure what your point was there. Hart is so much better than Clarkson, it's ridiculous. If Hart was on the market, he would not need to get a minimum. Or get bought out the Jazz of all teams. The Jazz were giving away Sexton for a 2nd. They would have got rid of this guy via trade if they could.

#3, someone keeps trying to pump up Clarkson by bringing up his 29 year old 6MOY...in 2021. That's like bringing up Brook Lopez's former DPOY, except Brook Lopez didn't need to rely upon those DPOYs to prove he can still contribute to winning basketball or earn a nice paycheck as he ages.

#4, assuming you need to resort to personal attacks cause your arguments for Clarkson suck

He's a minimum player whose main ability is to take (not make) shots, and if he starts chucking, I hope the Knicks cut him immediately.

If by personal attacks u mean stating the obvious, ok sure, and my point was incredibly obvious.

Lets play a game... who said this?

"A player can be bad at one price and good at another." "I dunno if Ayton would want to be here though."

Surely not the guy that is hating on the guy that consistently has been one of the best scorers in the NBA from the bench in the last years signing with the Knicks for the vet minimum, right? Theres no chance.

I don't know about your Ayton point and what you mean here, but I would rather have Ayton than Clarkson, no problem. I would 100% bring Ayton on this team over Clarkson and give him all of Clarkson's shots. Feel free to elaborate.

Now about Clarkson, he's the type of player who can be a negative, which is why he's on that minimum contract. Can't play defense, not particularly good at putting the ball in the hoop when he chucks, a pretty big turnover machine. If he's not hitting his shots, which happens a lot, what is he actually doing?

You keep calling him one of the best scorers in the NBA from the bench, and you all just keep referencing his totals...that shat would have flown maybe 20, 30 years ago. when Isiah Thomas was thirsting after dudes like Mo Taylor and Antoine Walker. He's not one of the best scorers from the bench...he's very good at putting up and missing a ton of shots though. That's why he's on a minimum.

oh yeah Ayton side by side with Kat would have been formidable! Hear that Boston? Formidable!

Gravy · Post #180 » by **Gravy** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:45 am

vallen wrote:
SamBridges wrote:the fan base will sour on him two months into the season

Funny how that happens, yet they be screaming "fire the coach" when he didnt play a bum ass like Frank Nikiwhatever. Frankfooters fall back.

If Clarkson sucks the coach has to keep him in the rotation cause thats how modern teams win championships now, by playing everyone who sucks.