Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million

SirChurros · Post #261 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:44 pm

I do think that with the Turner move, Wiggins is the obvious target.

He gives you the scoring you need and a legit wing with great upside if he’s engaged. If things don’t work out, you trade him at the deadline in 26-27 as an expiring.

ANTETOKOUNBROS · Post #262 » by **ANTETOKOUNBROS** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:45 pm

drone3 wrote:Kuz is back up to Giannis. Its honestly fine, if he finds his shot and guard the wing he can play the 3

No. He is not a winning player at any price. He is the wing Gadzuric.

tedbrogen · Post #263 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:49 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:KPJ
Trent Jr.
Kuzma (yuck)
Giannis
Turner

Is that what people expect the starting 5 to look like as of how the roster currently stands?

throw green in for kuz and im giddy

This is the way. GTJ is better guarding wings than guards anyways. We know KPJ/GTJ/AJG/GA works phenomenally. I’m sure Turner works with them.

Kuz can be energy guy off the bench if they don’t trade him. Minutes distribution:
KPJ (30)/Rollins (18)
AJG (30)/GTJ (15)/Rollins (3)
GTJ (15)/Kuz (23)/Prince (10)
GA (36)/Bobby (12)
Turner (30)/Bobby (18)

Means your starters play 30, GA slightly more, Bobby gets starters minutes, Kuz and Rollins slightly below, Prince is just a rotational guy.

engelmartin · Post #264 » by **engelmartin** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:49 pm

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:
drone3 wrote:Kuz is back up to Giannis. Its honestly fine, if he finds his shot and guard the wing he can play the 3

No. He is not a winning player at any price. He is the wing Gadzuric.

Hey don’t bring Gadz into this

tedbrogen · Post #265 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:51 pm

drone3 wrote:Kuz is back up to Giannis. Its honestly fine, if he finds his shot and guard the wing he can play the 3

Bobby will get 25-30 mpg, so will Turner, GA will get mid 30s, that’s already more than enough to cover the 96 minutes for the 4/5. When one of them is out or resting, Sims fills the gap. No need for Kuz as a GA backup. Which is why you move him for an actual SF.

jimmybones · Post #266 » by **jimmybones** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:51 pm

Start Green over Kuz and play mostly 3 guard lineups, sprinkle in Prince or Kuz if we need to throw more length at an opposing 3. Surround Giannis with shooters and let Giannis do Giannis things.

Pray that KPJ develops into a consistent second option. You don’t need a traditional second option with Giannis. Just a guy that can contribute in ways other than scoring when Giannis is cooking and initiate enough scoring on his own to at times that some of that load off Giannis.

KPJ/Rollins (I hope)
GTJ/Harris
Green/Prince
Giannis/Kuzma/Smith
Turner/Bobby/Sims

Post #267 » by **humanrefutation** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:52 pm

engelmartin wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:Michael Pina, who has never had a nice thing to say about the Bucks, is killing them at The Ringer.

Is he a lakers fanboy the way Simmons is a Celtics fanboy? Lots of fanboys out there.

I'm not sure. I just know he hates the Bucks.

GoldenAntlers · Post #268 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:53 pm

I forgot about Green.

KPJ/Trent Jr/Green/Giannis/Turner looks way better!

Not sure Doc will go for it, but seems like an obviously better lineup to me.

If Kuzma is Giannis backup and Sims is Turners backup, what's Bobby gonna do? I really hope Sims doesn't average 4.5 minutes a game.

(Someone was saying Bobby would solely play the 4 now.)

Post #269 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:54 pm

That Pina piece is so, so bad.

German Athens · Post #270 » by **German Athens** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:55 pm

I wouldn’t give up much for Wiggins, but I’d be fine bringing him here. ‘26 swap would be fine. I think we’ll beat Miami in the standings, so that’s nothing.

Now that we’re this far under the apron, we should really force a team to give us assets for taking on bad salary.

engelmartin · Post #271 » by **engelmartin** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:58 pm

stellation wrote:So many moves, it’s like me getting bored in 2K and it’s doing my poor little head in.

You mean you don’t just make a whole team of 7 “11 monstrosities with maxed out stats and win by 100 every game? I thought that’s what everyone did in NBA 2K

El Pooch Grande · Post #272 » by **El Pooch Grande** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:00 pm

Kuz has gots to go, its that simple...

PG Graveyard · Post #273 » by **PG Graveyard** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:02 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:That Pina piece is so, so bad.

Shocking!

Licensed to Il · Post #274 » by **Licensed to Il** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:05 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:That Pina piece is so, so bad.

Shocking!

I have had a theory for years, that the reason this board is so good, is because Bucks coverage EVERYWHERE else is awful. So it drives a few hundred kindred souls here, as there are really no other avenues for knowledgable Bucks talk. ESPN, the Ringer, hipster blogs… they all either want Giannis on a different team, or just don’t care to invest the time to watch us. Which is fine. Long live Bucks Real GM.

dbrodz7 · Post #275 » by **dbrodz7** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:05 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:That Pina piece is so, so bad.

The best part of the entire thing is Turner's on/off 3 point shooting splits with Haliburton. It's a real shame the Bucks don't have anybody that can get open looks for his teammates as well.

soxperry · Post #276 » by **soxperry** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:07 pm

German Athens wrote:I wouldn’t give up much for Wiggins, but I’d be fine bringing him here. ‘26 swap would be fine. I think we’ll beat Miami in the standings, so that’s nothing.

Now that we’re this far under the apron, we should really force a team to give us assets for taking on bad salary.

Yeah, problem is Miami knows we will beat them in the standings so its worth almost nothing

ShootingtheJ · Post #277 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:09 pm

dbrodz7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:That Pina piece is so, so bad.

The best part of the entire thing is Turner's on/off 3 point shooting splits with Haliburton. It's a real shame the Bucks don't have anybody that can get open looks for his teammates as well.

Yup. No one guards Haliburton with more than 1 defender. Turner is gonna feast. His release is so much quicker than Brooks.

German Athens · Post #278 » by **German Athens** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:11 pm

soxperry wrote:
German Athens wrote:I wouldn’t give up much for Wiggins, but I’d be fine bringing him here. ‘26 swap would be fine. I think we’ll beat Miami in the standings, so that’s nothing.

Now that we’re this far under the apron, we should really force a team to give us assets for taking on bad salary.

Yeah, problem is Miami knows we will beat them in the standings so its worth almost nothing

Yeah, but you don’t give up our first for Wiggins. Our swap to them would be the “protected top-55 2nd” equivalent, but they could still sell it as a win to get something back.

Kuzma, Dre, ‘26 swap for Wiggins.

I don’t think I’d do more than that.

PG Graveyard · Post #279 » by **PG Graveyard** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:11 pm

dbrodz7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:That Pina piece is so, so bad.

The best part of the entire thing is Turner's on/off 3 point shooting splits with Haliburton. It's a real shame the Bucks don't have anybody that can get open looks for his teammates as well.

That’s hilarious.

BroncoBuck · Post #280 » by **BroncoBuck** » Tue Jul 1, 2025 10:12 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:That Pina piece is so, so bad.

Shocking!

I have had a theory for years, that the reason this board is so good, is because Bucks coverage EVERYWHERE else is awful. So it drives a few hundred kindred souls here, as there are really no other avenues for knowledgable Bucks talk. ESPN, the Ringer, hipster blogs… they all either want Giannis on a different team, or just don’t care to invest the time to watch us. Which is fine. Long live Bucks Real GM.

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