Milwaukee is acting like they can win a championship with Giannis and $22.5 million in dead cap on the roster

[iggymcfrack]

Denver won a title with, like, $50 million in dead cap.

I’m a Nuggets fan. WTF are you even talking about? I literally have no idea.

What would you call MPJ and a bunch of guys who never stepped foot on the court that series?

MPJ had similar playoff numbers in 22/23 to what Myles Turner’s averaged in the playoffs for his career. His numbers were probably better than anyone on the Bucks other than Myles Turner or Giannis. If you wanna play that game, the Bucks have over $100MM of dead cap.

[iggymcfrack]

“Very unlikely” bro is huffing the copium right now. The East is weak

Cleveland, New York, and Orlando are so far above Milwaukee they’d need to suffer multiple injuries to get overtaken. Boston, Detroit, and Atlanta are all clearly better. Philly is probably slightly worse on average but has a higher ceiling. Chicago has a lower ceiling but a pretty good chance to pass them if Giannis has below average injury luck. Charlotte also has a pretty good chance to pass them if Giannis misses games.

I’d say something like:

Top 4 seed: 2-3%
5 seed: 2-3%
6 seed: 10%
7 seed: 20-25%
8 seed: 20-25%
Miss playoffs: 35-45%

The situation kinda reminds me of the Suns last year where I’m like “how do these injury-prone ill-fitting old guys make a playoff team” only the East is so weak that a similarly trash team still has a pretty good chance to make it out of the play-in.

If the Bucks are a pickem to make the playoffs I’ll lay a monster wager down

I’m saying fair line is -150 to make it, +150 to miss. Actual line will probably be something like -320/+260 and I will lay a monster wager down at +260 just like I did betting against the Suns last year.

[ConSarnit]

Who cares if the Bucks can’t win the title? As long as Giannis wants to stay they are fine.

Giannis stays: ride out a few more years being a 6th seed

Giannis wants out: trade Giannis for massive haul, trade Turner for decent haul. If they trade Giannis they are going to suck for 2-3 years anyways so who cares if Dame is still on their books

The only thing the Bucks have to do now is get ahead of Giannis if they think he’s going to leave in free agency. As long as he doesn’t leave for nothing they should be ok.

[AussieBuck]

I don’t know why non-Bucks fans are trying to convince Giannis and Bucks fans that it’s better if he leaves. Giannis clearly doesn’t want to leave and Bucks fans fully understand they’re in all likelihood not winning another championship. Both sides are content trying to field the best team they can and competing. Nothing wrong with that.

Because he’s a declining star who only has a couple prime years left and he’s surrounded by maybe the worst supporting cast in the entire NBA? Also, I mean the Bucks literally just lit the next 5 years on fire to have the 17th best chance of winning the title next year which is just an objectively hilarious level of desperation.

I think this one is the peak of a series of progressively more unhinged posts ITT.

[JayMKE]

Turner is an upgrade over Lopez and ideal fit next to Giannis on both ends of the floor. Dame was dead money next season and there is no guarantees about what kind of player he’ll return as after that, his tenure with the Bucks was a disappointment. The Bucks have retained Portis, Trent, KPJ, Sims. I don’t think the Bucks are finished this offseason either. Like the Bucks were pretty mediocre and won 48 games last year, people acting like the team is suddenly **** awful don’t know what they’re talking about.

[MGB8]

A couple of relatively cheap pickups and the Bucks will be in the mix, though still behind the Cavs and Knicks. Right now, the depth chart looks something like like:

1: Porter Jr.; G.Harris?
2: A. Jackson; Trent Jr.; AJ Green
3: T.Prince; Kuzma
4: Giannis; Portis
5: Turner; Sims

Portis backs up the 5 a lot and Kuzma the 4. They are likely bringing Rollins back despite the move today. Basically, they could use another reserve PG (there are plenty of those on the market available for cheap right now), an upgrade at SF who is more reliable 3 and D than Prince, and another reserve big.

Let’s say they add a Brogdon (or Mann, Fultz, E.Payton, Dinwiddie, Exum, R.Jackson, Hayes even a CP3). Maybe a Javonte Green for competition at the 3 - he always brings high energy D plus had good 3 pt shooting years in Chicago. Plus, say, a Mo Bamba as another big off the bench…. Now, while lacking star power in the backcourt, dangerous enough….

[iggymcfrack]

I don’t know why non-Bucks fans are trying to convince Giannis and Bucks fans that it’s better if he leaves. Giannis clearly doesn’t want to leave and Bucks fans fully understand they’re in all likelihood not winning another championship. Both sides are content trying to field the best team they can and competing. Nothing wrong with that.

Because he’s a declining star who only has a couple prime years left and he’s surrounded by maybe the worst supporting cast in the entire NBA? Also, I mean the Bucks literally just lit the next 5 years on fire to have the 17th best chance of winning the title next year which is just an objectively hilarious level of desperation.

I think this one is the peak of a series of progressively more unhinged posts ITT.

What’s unhinged about it?

I’d say:
1. OKC
2. Denver
3. Houston
4. Cleveland
5. Orlando
6. New York
7. Golden State
8. Minnesota
9. Clippers
10. Dallas
11. Boston
12. Detroit
13. Atlanta
14. San Antonio
15. Lakers
16. Philly
17. Milwaukee

[iggymcfrack]

Turner is an upgrade over Lopez and ideal fit next to Giannis on both ends of the floor. Dame was dead money next season and there is no guarantees about what kind of player he’ll return as after that, his tenure with the Bucks was a disappointment. The Bucks have retained Portis, Trent, KPJ, Sims. I don’t think the Bucks are finished this offseason either. Like the Bucks were pretty mediocre and won 48 games last year, people acting like the team is suddenly **** awful don’t know what they’re talking about.

I think it’s easy to forget that Giannis just had his healthiest season since 2019 last year when the Bucks were an easy 1st round exit. It’s pretty unlikely that they’ll get that kind of injury luck again next year.

[Dick Tate]

name a team that has won the championship with that salary on their roster

look at every team historically, name one that has won with $22.5 million of nothing on their roster. The only half example is Boston with Porzingis, and Milwaukee has no one comparable to Jaylen Brown or even Jrue Holiday as a 2nd and 4th option.

Cool. Now compare the NBA salary cap of today to that of 5 years ago.

even if you adjust for salary cap, it’s an insane amount of money. It’s 15% of the cap.

A percentage that will improve each year. Might be crazy enough to work.

[Wooderson]

Turner is an upgrade over Lopez and ideal fit next to Giannis on both ends of the floor. Dame was dead money next season and there is no guarantees about what kind of player he’ll return as after that, his tenure with the Bucks was a disappointment. The Bucks have retained Portis, Trent, KPJ, Sims. I don’t think the Bucks are finished this offseason either. Like the Bucks were pretty mediocre and won 48 games last year, people acting like the team is suddenly **** awful don’t know what they’re talking about.

I think it’s easy to forget that Giannis just had his healthiest season since 2019 last year when the Bucks were an easy 1st round exit. It’s pretty unlikely that they’ll get that kind of injury luck again next year.

Huh? He was perfectly healthy in 2022. And 2023 was just a fluke injury. The Bucks also got essentially nothing from Dame last year in playoffs, not exactly good luck there.

[GiannisAnte34]

Because he’s a declining star who only has a couple prime years left and he’s surrounded by maybe the worst supporting cast in the entire NBA? Also, I mean the Bucks literally just lit the next 5 years on fire to have the 17th best chance of winning the title next year which is just an objectively hilarious level of desperation.

I think this one is the peak of a series of progressively more unhinged posts ITT.

What’s unhinged about it?

I’d say:
1. OKC
2. Denver
3. Houston
4. Cleveland
5. Orlando
6. New York
7. Golden State
8. Minnesota
9. Clippers
10. Dallas
11. Boston
12. Detroit
13. Atlanta
14. San Antonio
15. Lakers
16. Philly
17. Milwaukee

[TheGOATRises007]

Ranking Philly over Milwaukee is pretty bold

[MGB8]

Detroit looks like they are taking a step back. Boston will likely tank. Philly may be good, but could just as easily be awful. Orlando will be better but that team is snake-bit. Ditto Atlanta. Indiana without Hali is a play-in team; without Hali and Turner - Nembhard, Nesmith, Mathurin, Toppin and Siakam… probably just a lesser play in team.

It’s the Cavs, Knicks, and the wide open spaces in the East. Bucks powered by Giannis and Turner, plus some kids, chips-on-shoulder, and maybe some ring chasers, will be right in that mix.

[th87]

lol Boston without Tatum and Detroit? Clownish take here

Why on earth would Milwaukee be better than Detroit next year? Detroit was better last year and they’re much younger. You realize that turning Damian Lillard into Myles Turner makes you worse right?

Detroit finished behind Milwaukee

With Dame missing 14 games.

[th87]

Its in best interests of both parties to go their separate ways.

Why is it in Giannis best interest to do something that he isn't interested in doing?

There is a ton of smoke about his situation in MIL from shams and others. I don't know why people are assuming he will never leave based on a bunch of PR nonsense.

Yeah like that AMA where he said he likes NY pizza!!

[Sixers in 4]

Why is it in Giannis best interest to do something that he isn't interested in doing?

There is a ton of smoke about his situation in MIL from shams and others. I don't know why people are assuming he will never leave based on a bunch of PR nonsense.

Yeah like that AMA where he said he likes NY pizza!!

Or right after the playoff loss, where he said he wasn't sure if he would be back, or when Shams said he was exploring his options.

Or Giannis repeatedly saying in interviews when asked whether he will sign an extension next season, just bringing it back to there being two years left on his deal. Nothing to see, he's all in.

Watch on YouTube

;t=821s

[iggymcfrack]

Turner is an upgrade over Lopez and ideal fit next to Giannis on both ends of the floor. Dame was dead money next season and there is no guarantees about what kind of player he’ll return as after that, his tenure with the Bucks was a disappointment. The Bucks have retained Portis, Trent, KPJ, Sims. I don’t think the Bucks are finished this offseason either. Like the Bucks were pretty mediocre and won 48 games last year, people acting like the team is suddenly **** awful don’t know what they’re talking about.

I think it’s easy to forget that Giannis just had his healthiest season since 2019 last year when the Bucks were an easy 1st round exit. It’s pretty unlikely that they’ll get that kind of injury luck again next year.

Huh? He was perfectly healthy in 2022. And 2023 was just a fluke injury. The Bucks also got essentially nothing from Dame last year in playoffs, not exactly good luck there.

2022 was the only season from 2020-2024 where Giannis was healthy in the playoffs. I guess it’s kinda splitting hairs whether he was more healthy in 2022 or 2025. He played more minutes this year, but he made it through 2 rounds of the playoffs without getting hurt instead of 1 that year so kind of a push.

[iggymcfrack]

Ranking Philly over Milwaukee is pretty bold

I mean I’m not saying they’re more likely to make the playoffs, but they definitely have a better chance to get out of the East. Healthy Embiid, McCain/Maxey take a step forward, PG has a little bit of bounceback year. You can at least imagine it. What’s Milwaukee’s path to come out of the East? An asteroid hits the East coast and takes out all the other top teams?

[MGB8]

Ranking Philly over Milwaukee is pretty bold

I mean I’m not saying they’re more likely to make the playoffs, but they definitely have a better chance to get out of the East. Healthy Embiid, McCain/Maxey take a step forward, PG has a little bit of bounceback year. You can at least imagine it. What’s Milwaukee’s path to come out of the East? An asteroid hits the East coast and takes out all the other top teams?

Embiid hurt or not effective means Sixers suck. Older George and flawed Maxey aren’t enough to overcome. So then it is basically heath and implosion risks. Cleveland has health risks related to Brunson and implosion risks with respect to lacking shooting, Bridges contract status, and KAT’s lack of D. Cleveland has injury prone players in Garland and Hunter (and now Ball), and if Mitchell slips and/or Mobley doesn’t step up even more…. And speaking of injury prone, you have the Atlanta and Orlando teams…. If the Bucks stay healthy and other don’t, a defensive backstop of Giannis and Turner surrounded by role players may be enough.

[Sixers in 4]

Ranking Philly over Milwaukee is pretty bold

I mean I’m not saying they’re more likely to make the playoffs, but they definitely have a better chance to get out of the East. Healthy Embiid, McCain/Maxey take a step forward, PG has a little bit of bounceback year. You can at least imagine it. What’s Milwaukee’s path to come out of the East? An asteroid hits the East coast and takes out all the other top teams?

If Embiid is healthy the sixers are better and it isn't even really debatable. Of course that is a huge if.